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Does any one know what happens internally after taking your biometrics?. I thought USCIS submits your biometrics to the FBI right after they take them, I googled FBI processing times for 2016 and the offical website states it may take between 11 and 14 weeks, My questions are. do they start processing your application after they get the OK from the FBI or before?. Im an early Dec application and last week I called to get an update, TIER2 told me they started my packed in June, What happened before that? why people that sent off their pakage at the same time or even later got already their application processed ?. How different is this process from AOS? .

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You need to understand that when you send your ROC application, aside from generating a NOA1 and biometrics notice, USCIS does not do anything with it. It just sits in a pile, awaiting its turn. (During this time FBI checks do happen.)

Applications submitted 6-8 months ago getting their turn (e.g. actual USCIS human looking them over, adjudicating them) now.

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Entry on VWP to visit then-boyfriend 06/13/2011

Married 06/24/2011

Our first son was born 10/31/2012, our daughter was born 06/30/2014, our second son was born 06/20/2017

AOS Timeline

AOS package mailed 09/06/2011 (Chicago Lockbox)

AOS package signed for by R Mercado 09/07/2011

Priority date for I-485&I-130 09/08/2011

Biometrics done 10/03/2011

Interview letter received 11/18/2011

INTERVIEW DATE!!!! 12/20/2011

Approval e-mail 12/21/2011

Card production e-mail 12/27/2011

GREEN CARD ARRIVED 12/31/2011

Resident since 12/21/2011

ROC Timeline

ROC package mailed to VSC 11/22/2013

NOA1 date 11/26/2013

Biometrics date 12/26/2013

Transfer notice to CSC 03/14/2014

Change of address 03/27/2014

Card production ordered 04/30/2014

10-YEAR GREEN CARD ARRIVED 05/06/2014

N-400 Timeline

N-400 package mailed 09/30/2014

N-400 package delivered 10/01/2014

NOA1 date 10/20/2014

Biometrics date 11/14/2014

Early walk-in biometrics 11/12/2014

In-line for interview 11/23/2014

Interview letter 03/18/2015

Interview date 04/17/2015 ("Decision cannot yet be made.")

In-line for oath scheduling 05/04/2015

Oath ceremony letter dated 05/11/2015

Oath ceremony 06/02/2015

I am a United States citizen!

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You need to understand that when you send your ROC application, aside from generating a NOA1 and biometrics notice, USCIS does not do anything with it. It just sits in a pile, awaiting its turn. (During this time FBI checks do happen.)

Applications submitted 6-8 months ago getting their turn (e.g. actual USCIS human looking them over, adjudicating them) now.

It has passed that time, never got a RFE letter , I know my background check will come up clean. The worst part is the lack of information and how arbitrary all this is .

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When did you file your I-751?

If you are still married and it has been 3 years minus 90 days since the "Residence since" date on your GC, you can file your N-400. This will eventually force USCIS to adjudicate your I-751.


Entry on VWP to visit then-boyfriend 06/13/2011

Married 06/24/2011

Our first son was born 10/31/2012, our daughter was born 06/30/2014, our second son was born 06/20/2017

AOS Timeline

AOS package mailed 09/06/2011 (Chicago Lockbox)

AOS package signed for by R Mercado 09/07/2011

Priority date for I-485&I-130 09/08/2011

Biometrics done 10/03/2011

Interview letter received 11/18/2011

INTERVIEW DATE!!!! 12/20/2011

Approval e-mail 12/21/2011

Card production e-mail 12/27/2011

GREEN CARD ARRIVED 12/31/2011

Resident since 12/21/2011

ROC Timeline

ROC package mailed to VSC 11/22/2013

NOA1 date 11/26/2013

Biometrics date 12/26/2013

Transfer notice to CSC 03/14/2014

Change of address 03/27/2014

Card production ordered 04/30/2014

10-YEAR GREEN CARD ARRIVED 05/06/2014

N-400 Timeline

N-400 package mailed 09/30/2014

N-400 package delivered 10/01/2014

NOA1 date 10/20/2014

Biometrics date 11/14/2014

Early walk-in biometrics 11/12/2014

In-line for interview 11/23/2014

Interview letter 03/18/2015

Interview date 04/17/2015 ("Decision cannot yet be made.")

In-line for oath scheduling 05/04/2015

Oath ceremony letter dated 05/11/2015

Oath ceremony 06/02/2015

I am a United States citizen!

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When did you file your I-751?

If you are still married and it has been 3 years minus 90 days since the "Residence since" date on your GC, you can file your N-400. This will eventually force USCIS to adjudicate your I-751.

You know what gets my goat about all this? $505. They charge you to "adjudicate" your I-751, don't get around to doing a damned thing for a year, then charge you AGAIN to "adjudicate" your N-400.

I think if you have to wait a WHOLE YEAR and they don't even touch your I-751, you should get a refund - or, your N-400 should be at no charge.

Who the heck pays $505 and gets nothing in return after a year?

Sukie in NY


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Our Prior Journey

N-400 Naturalization

18-Feb-2018 - submitted N-400 online, credit card charged

18-Feb-2018 - NOA1

12-Mar-2018 - Biometrics 

18-June-2018 - Notice of interview received

26-July-2018 - Interview  - APPROVED!!!

26-July-2018 - Oath Ceremony Scheduled

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You know what gets my goat about all this? $505. They charge you to "adjudicate" your I-751, don't get around to doing a damned thing for a year, then charge you AGAIN to "adjudicate" your N-400.

I think if you have to wait a WHOLE YEAR and they don't even touch your I-751, you should get a refund - or, your N-400 should be at no charge.

Who the heck pays $505 and gets nothing in return after a year?

Sukie in NY

Poor VSC would go bankrupt.

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You know what gets my goat about all this? $505. They charge you to "adjudicate" your I-751, don't get around to doing a damned thing for a year, then charge you AGAIN to "adjudicate" your N-400.

I think if you have to wait a WHOLE YEAR and they don't even touch your I-751, you should get a refund - or, your N-400 should be at no charge.

Who the heck pays $505 and gets nothing in return after a year?

Sukie in NY

Hear, hear! Also, hi! I remember you from phase 1. Hope you two are doing well!


 

Is your timeline updated?


Oath Ceremony Dec 14th, 2018 I am finally a citizen and done with USCIS for good!

 

 

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Marriage: 2013-08-05                                   I-130 Sent: 2013-10-07                                                 I-130 NOA1: 2013-10-09                               

I-130 transferred to VSC: 2014-03-12        I-130 NOA2: 2014-03-24                                              NVC Received: 2014-04-07 

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DS261 submitted: 2014-05-09                    AOS invoiced and paid: 2014-05-12                           DS261 re-submitted - GRRRR! 2014-05-21               

ENROLL conf. email: 2014-06-05               Submitted AOS documents:2014-06-08                    IV fee email received: 2014-06-23 

IV fee available and paid: 2014-06-24       DS260  submitted: 2014-06-26                                   Case Complete: 2014-07-31                                       

Interview: 2014-09-19 APPROVED!!!          Visa in Hand: 2014-09-24 (Loomis depot)                POE (Pac Hwy Crossing, BC) 2014-11-08 

SSN Card arrived (approx) 2014-11-26     Green Card arrived (approx) 2014-12-17 

Removal of Conditions - I-751:

I-751 Mailed (USPS) Aug 10, 2016             NOA: August 17, 2016 (received Aug 23)                  Biometrics Letter Sent: Sept 23, 2016

Biometrics Letter Rec'd: Sept 30, 2016     Walk-In Biometrics Oct 6, 2016                                    Infopass for I-551 stamp Aug 17, 2017   

Service Request: Dec 27, 2017                   SR Response: Jan 10, 2018 (no prediction)              Senator Inquiry: Jan 5, 2018

Senator Resp: Jan 8, 2018 (60 days)         Service Request 2: Mar 8 2018                                   Senator Inquiry 2: Mar 9 2018

SR 2 Response: Mar 12 (security checks) Senator Response 2: Mar 13, 2018                            Approval (via phone!): Mar 14, 2018

New Green Card Arrived: Mar 22, 2018

Naturalization - N-400: 

Submitted N-400 Online: Feb 4, 2018       Denied for Payment Failure: Feb 8, 2018                     Resubmitted N-400 Online Feb 8, 2018

NOA: Feb 8, 2018                                          Biometrics: Feb 26, 2018                                                Interview: Nov 2,2018 (approved)

Oath: Dec 14, 2018

 

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You know what gets my goat about all this? $505. They charge you to "adjudicate" your I-751, don't get around to doing a damned thing for a year, then charge you AGAIN to "adjudicate" your N-400.

I think if you have to wait a WHOLE YEAR and they don't even touch your I-751, you should get a refund - or, your N-400 should be at no charge.

Who the heck pays $505 and gets nothing in return after a year?

Sukie in NY

I hear you! Hubby filed in March 2015, had his biometrics April 2015. Nothing all that time. Then suddenly he got a letter for new biometrics which he had done this month. I guess they finally got around to looking at his case and decided his first biometrics were too old


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See my Timeline for details of our visa journey
17-Aug-2011 Our Wedding Day in Kosovo heart9.gif
07-Nov-2011 Filed I-130
21-Nov-2011 NOA1
23-Aug-2012 NOA2 Approved 276 days
10-Jan-2013 Case complete via email

28-Feb-2013 Interview, result AP
11-Apr-2013 Embassy appointment - VISA APPROVED and issued in 4 hours
30-Apr-2013 POE Chicago O'Hare - He's home!

04-Sep-2014 Moved to northern California

12-Mar-2015 Filed ROC
16-Mar-2015 Documents delivered
18-Mar-2015 Check cashed
19-Mar-2015 NOA1 dated 03/16/2015 received in mail
13-Apr-2015 Biometrics completed
02-Feb-2016 Contacted USCIS about case, was told it's on hold because of security checks (email)
04-Mar-2016 Moved to Wisconsin
12-Aug-2016 New Biometrics appointment
14-Sep-2016 Contacted USCIS again about case (email said we should hear from them by Oct 6)
22-Sep-2016 Letter from USCIS dated 9/20 explaining the Service Request is currently being reviewed by an officer.
22-Sep-2016 Letter from USCIS dated 9/20 with Interview appointment for both of us for 28-Sep-2016
28-Sep-2016 Interview, both of us, separated, not hard, 10 min. each, result---said hubby will get GC in about 10 days
26-Oct-2016 *****STILL WAITING*****
02-Nov-2016 Card is being produced!!!
08-Nov-2016 Card is mailed
10-Nov-2016 Card is Delivered!!!! YAY

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I hear you! Hubby filed in March 2015, had his biometrics April 2015. Nothing all that time. Then suddenly he got a letter for new biometrics which he had done this month. I guess they finally got around to looking at his case and decided his first biometrics were too old

Shoot. I'm sorry you guys are still waiting indiana_sweetie. N400 wouldn't help with background checks but why don't you guys get going with that too? Once his background check clears, they will take care of them both together. Given that it's been almost 1.5 years, I hope it wouldn't take too much longer for you guys.

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When did you file your I-751?

If you are still married and it has been 3 years minus 90 days since the "Residence since" date on your GC, you can file your N-400. This will eventually force USCIS to adjudicate your I-751.

I can apply this coming Dec, however my point is, I paid for a service which is mandatory and they are not doing there part and if I want to push it i have to apply for naturalization which cost another $600 and even involve your state congressman .

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I hear you! Hubby filed in March 2015, had his biometrics April 2015. Nothing all that time. Then suddenly he got a letter for new biometrics which he had done this month. I guess they finally got around to looking at his case and decided his first biometrics were too old

thats outrages, god forbid if you go back to your home country and then when you return the border agent gives your hell.

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Shoot. I'm sorry you guys are still waiting indiana_sweetie. N400 wouldn't help with background checks but why don't you guys get going with that too? Once his background check clears, they will take care of them both together. Given that it's been almost 1.5 years, I hope it wouldn't take too much longer for you guys.

Thanks. I contacted them in February of this year and asked about hubby's case. They replied "We have placed your case on a processing hold because the required security checks remain pending." Because we moved, hubby needed to be a resident of our new state for 3 months before filing for his N400. In May I had major surgery, so it's been a slow process on our end, too.


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AAD1m5.pngThankYouUSA-Kosova.jpg

See my Timeline for details of our visa journey
17-Aug-2011 Our Wedding Day in Kosovo heart9.gif
07-Nov-2011 Filed I-130
21-Nov-2011 NOA1
23-Aug-2012 NOA2 Approved 276 days
10-Jan-2013 Case complete via email

28-Feb-2013 Interview, result AP
11-Apr-2013 Embassy appointment - VISA APPROVED and issued in 4 hours
30-Apr-2013 POE Chicago O'Hare - He's home!

04-Sep-2014 Moved to northern California

12-Mar-2015 Filed ROC
16-Mar-2015 Documents delivered
18-Mar-2015 Check cashed
19-Mar-2015 NOA1 dated 03/16/2015 received in mail
13-Apr-2015 Biometrics completed
02-Feb-2016 Contacted USCIS about case, was told it's on hold because of security checks (email)
04-Mar-2016 Moved to Wisconsin
12-Aug-2016 New Biometrics appointment
14-Sep-2016 Contacted USCIS again about case (email said we should hear from them by Oct 6)
22-Sep-2016 Letter from USCIS dated 9/20 explaining the Service Request is currently being reviewed by an officer.
22-Sep-2016 Letter from USCIS dated 9/20 with Interview appointment for both of us for 28-Sep-2016
28-Sep-2016 Interview, both of us, separated, not hard, 10 min. each, result---said hubby will get GC in about 10 days
26-Oct-2016 *****STILL WAITING*****
02-Nov-2016 Card is being produced!!!
08-Nov-2016 Card is mailed
10-Nov-2016 Card is Delivered!!!! YAY

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You know what gets my goat about all this? $505. They charge you to "adjudicate" your I-751, don't get around to doing a damned thing for a year, then charge you AGAIN to "adjudicate" your N-400.

I think if you have to wait a WHOLE YEAR and they don't even touch your I-751, you should get a refund - or, your N-400 should be at no charge.

Who the heck pays $505 and gets nothing in return after a year?

Sukie in NY

Hi Susie,

You are so correct about this. It is down right lunacy that it takes this long. I am just now getting all our ducks in a row to file our I-751 on November 17th to the dungeon of the Vermont Service Center. Hope you guys are doing good. We are doing great. We have also decided not to travel during the period after the _551 expires. The idiots at Miami or even the airline in Santiago probably do not understand the one year extension letter. We don't want to chance any problems. You are also right, we will probably be filing our N-400 before we see the I-751 adjudicated.

Bob & Orlando in Arkansas

thats outrages, god forbid if you go back to your home country and then when you return the border agent gives your hell.

That's why we have made the decision not to travel during this period of time. Don't need the hassle of the idiot immigration and airline folks.


I am the US Citizen

 

Journey to Citizenship for my spouse

Day 1    11-20-2017  Filed N-400 Online

Day 1    11-20-2017  NOA1 for N-400

Day 4    11-24-2017  NOA1 hardcopy arrived in the mail

Day 25  12-15-2017  Biometrics Appointment at Ft Smith, AR ASC

Day 104 03-02-2018 Notified Interview Letter Sent.

Day 151 04-18-2018 Interview at Fort Smith, AR 

Day 174 05-11-2018 Oath Ceremony at Fort Smith USCIS.

 

Day 1,370 - JOURNEY from K1 Visa to Oath of Citizenship is now COMPLETE!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Does any one know what happens internally after taking your biometrics?. I thought USCIS submits your biometrics to the FBI right after they take them, I googled FBI processing times for 2016 and the offical website states it may take between 11 and 14 weeks, My questions are. do they start processing your application after they get the OK from the FBI or before?. Im an early Dec application and last week I called to get an update, TIER2 told me they started my packed in June, What happened before that? why people that sent off their pakage at the same time or even later got already their application processed ?. How different is this process from AOS? .

Have you tried submitting a Service Request? Sometimes that forces them to touch your file.

https://egov.uscis.g...equest/Intro.do


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Service Center : National Benefits Center; Consulate : Mumbai, India; Marriage (if applicable): 2013-07-05
USCIS
I-130 Sent : 2013-07-20; I-130 NOA1 : 2013-07-26; I-130 Transferred to CSC: 2014-01-13; I-130 Approved: 2014-01-22
NVC
NVC Received: 2014-02-03; AOS Bill Shows PAID: 2014-03-19
NVC Case # and IIN Assigned: 2014-03-11; AOS Package Delivered: 2014-03-21;
Submitted/Completed DS-261 online: 2014-03-12; AOS Package Touched: 2014-03-25;
Receive & Pay AOS Bill : 2014-03-13; AOS Package Approved: 2014-04-08
AOS Package Mailed (USPS Priority): 2014-03-18;
IV Bill:
Receive & Pay IV Bill: 2014-03-24; False Checklist for Civil Documents: 2014-04-07
IV Bill Shows PAID: 2014-03-26; Case Completed at NVC: 2014-04-16;
IV Package Mailed (USPS Priority): 2014-03-26; Case Complete Email Received: 2014-04-23
IV Package Received by NVC: 2014-03-31; Interview scheduled: 2014-05-01;
IV Package Touched: 2014-04-03 (still in review); IL Email Received: 2014-05-01
DS-260 Available/Completed/Submitted: 2014-03-27
Consulate: Mumbai
Fingerprinting & Photo: 2014-05-09 Medicals: 2014-05-19
Interview: 2014-06-04 Visa Approved CEAC Website Status "Issued": 2014-06-05
USCIS ELIS Fee Paid: 2014-06-08 Passport w/Visa Received: 2014-06-09
POE (LAX): 2014-07-20 SS# Received: 2014-07-28
Actual GC received 2014-08-30
CA ID Received: 2014-09-02.
First job in USA (yeeeh!!!) starting: 2014-09-22
Taking driving lessons....!!!!

ROC
Application Sent: 2016-04-26
NOA1:2016-04-28
Biometrics: 2016-06-02 (early walk-in on May 31st)

ROC Approval Email and Online Status Change - 2016-11-07
Google Doc for April 2016 filers: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/12Mb-ALcbwQbYafLj4vFaEMjSGD-wfjtrycs3ul8QlUo/edit?pref=2&pli=1#gid=0

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Have you tried submitting a Service Request? Sometimes that forces them to touch your file.

https://egov.uscis.g...equest/Intro.do

Tried to submit one but i got this error message

The following error(s) need to be corrected:

You must select the Form Number associated to your Receipt Number. The Form Number you selected does not match our records for that Receipt Number.

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