Anyone had a K1 visa experience with a statelessness spouse?

[mikelowe 0]

If so then what did you do?

My fiancé is in the Dominican Republic but like hundreds of thousands others there here is statelessness with no birth certificate or anything, although he did finish high school which they allowed him to do with no paperwork.

For those who don't know statelessness is lack of citizenship and or nationality they have no citizenship anywhere. This is common in the Dominican especially with Haitians who were born there but were refused birth certificates and now can't obtain a cedula which is their version of a ID and allows you to work legally and own land and get a passport

I'm trying to figure out if in my case if I'll need to consult a lawyer here or something... But I would appreciate any advice or shared experiences.

[Georgia16 2,858]

There are tons of people doing K-1 in here from DR.

Ask for it to be moved to the DR-forum and I'm sure they can help you quickly.

[TraMar16 12]

I have a great friend that can answer all of these questions...

Edited July 28, 2016 by TBoneTX
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[Anitafeliz 1,133]

Ask in Haití forum. From what i Heard DR is actively deporting folks like your fiancee and will not recognize your financee As a Dominican citizen.

Your fiancee may belive they are Dominican but they are not. Will never be according to DR.

Go to Haiti she or he knows they won't be allowed back to DR which is why they haven't gone so far.

And I'm not sure but admitting being illegal in a country may be frowned on but that I'm not sure of.

Edited July 27, 2016 by Anitafeliz

[Anitafeliz 1,133]

Please be careful with attorneys in DR there's a lot of fraud in DR.

GET ATTORNEY in the US they can suggest a reliable one in DR.

[mikelowe 0]

Ask in Haití forum. From what i Heard DR is actively deporting folks like your fiancee and will not recognize your financee As a Dominican citizen.

Your fiancee may belive they are Dominican but they are not. Will never be according to DR.

Go to Haiti she or he knows they won't be allowed back to DR which is why they haven't gone so far.

And I'm not sure but admitting being illegal in a country may be frowned on but that I'm not sure of.

My fiancé isn't Haitian but German but doesn't have the paperwork or even a birth certificate and his mother is refusing to help him get the documents so he's statelessness

There are tons of people doing K-1 in here from DR.

Ask for it to be moved to the DR-forum and I'm sure they can help you quickly.

Well this has more to do with statelessness not just DR or Haiti.

[jan22 3,174]

You first said he has no citizenship; then you said he's German, but doesn't have the paperwork to show it. Sounds like he isn't stateless -- he's undocumented. There's a difference. Undocumented is a lot more difficult a situation to try to claim exceptions to the USCIS and Embassy procedures/documentation required.

Edited July 28, 2016 by jan22

[Anitafeliz 1,133]

You first said he has no citizenship; then you said he's German, but doesn't have the paperwork to show it. Sounds like he isn't stateless -- he's undocumented. There's a difference. Undocumented is a lot more difficult to claim exceptions to the USCIS and Embassy procedures/documentation required.

I was thinking the same thing....

And it doesnt look good....

[TBoneTX 47,502]

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[canadian_wife 1,831]

If he is German, I assume he was born in Germany?

Is it possible to contact the hospital or local records office to get a birth certificate? Even if his mother refuses to help, there must be other family members that know where he was born right?

Good luck

[milimelo 4,736]

If he is German, then the German embassy in DR should be able to assist to get the documents he needs?

[JR loves JR 196]

This process is complicated enough and to have to add this twist is really too bad. I don't have any experience with statelessness but I know it's way more complicated than going to a hospital to pick up a birth certificate. Some countries say you're only a citizen if one of your parents is a citizen unlike the USA that say "if you're born here, you're a citizen here." However I'd assume that wherever a person is born they'd issue a birth certificate. Does he have a birth certificate at all?

Did I understand correctly that your fiancé's mom is German, that he was born outside Germany, and she didn't register his birth with the German government? And she doesn't want to assist him in being recognized by the German government? Do you know why she's unwilling to assist? Maybe she thinks it's really complicated and doesn't know how to proceed. If you could simplify her role in the process that might help her be more helpful. However if they are estranged or he can't reach her, that will make things more complicated. What proof does he have of her nationality? What sort of proof does a person need to register as a German born abroad? Maybe if you contacted a German immigration lawyer they could tell you what you can do to pursue recognition of a birth abroad?

Like I said earlier, I don't know anything about statelessness so my advice could be completely worthless. If so, please know that I wish you all the best on your journey.

[mikelowe 0]

This process is complicated enough and to have to add this twist is really too bad. I don't have any experience with statelessness but I know it's way more complicated than going to a hospital to pick up a birth certificate. Some countries say you're only a citizen if one of your parents is a citizen unlike the USA that say "if you're born here, you're a citizen here." However I'd assume that wherever a person is born they'd issue a birth certificate. Does he have a birth certificate at all?

Did I understand correctly that your fiancé's mom is German, that he was born outside Germany, and she didn't register his birth with the German government? And she doesn't want to assist him in being recognized by the German government? Do you know why she's unwilling to assist? Maybe she thinks it's really complicated and doesn't know how to proceed. If you could simplify her role in the process that might help her be more helpful. However if they are estranged or he can't reach her, that will make things more complicated. What proof does he have of her nationality? What sort of proof does a person need to register as a German born abroad? Maybe if you contacted a German immigration lawyer they could tell you what you can do to pursue recognition of a birth abroad?

Like I said earlier, I don't know anything about statelessness so my advice could be completely worthless. If so, please know that I wish you all the best on your journey.

Not worthless thanks for the advice. I'm assuming that she had to have once had his birth certificate to get into the DR, and they aren't estranged she's just not willing to help. She claims she has to physically go to Germany to get the documentation but age doesn't have the money for that so he's I guess undocumented is a better word than statelessness although I thought they were relatively the same

[Anitafeliz 1,133]

Embajada de ALEMANIA

http://m.santo-domingo.diplo.de/Vertretung/santodomingo/es/Impressum.html

Contact them they may help your fiancee

[Anitafeliz 1,133]

In order for the dominican USA embassy to see your fiancee at there embassy he would need to be a legal resident OR HAVE permission to be In DR.

I could be wrong....but i know two friends who have had to be residents or status to work in DR to interview there but they were from Spain living in DR and from Italy. Working in DR.

Edited July 28, 2016 by Anitafeliz