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U.S. Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump said Muslims were not helping to prevent attacks such as those that killed at least 30 people in Belgium, drawing a rebuke from Britain's government and from Muslim groups in the country.

In an interview broadcast on Britain's ITV television on Wednesday, Trump was asked what his message was for British Muslims after Tuesday's bombings in Brussels and the attacks in Paris last November.

"When they see trouble they have to report it, they are not reporting it, they are absolutely not reporting it and that's a big problem," Trump said.

His comments were countered by British interior minister Theresa May who said he was "just plain wrong" to suggest Muslims in Britain were failing to report suspicious activity by extremists.

Trump, the front-runner in the race to be the Republican candidate in November's presidential election, has made a series of controversial statements during his campaign. His supporters see him as someone who speaks uncomfortable truths but he has outraged many others in the United States and around the world.

Trump, who has called for a ban on Muslims entering the United States, said it was "a disgrace" that one of the suspects behind last November's attacks in Paris had been found after a long manhunt by police in an area of Brussels where he lived.

"He was in his neighborhood where he grew up and nobody even turned him in and supposedly this is retribution for that. It's a disgrace," he said.

Trump said there were signs that an attack by suspected Muslim extremists in California in December, which killed 14 people, could have been stopped.

"A lot of people in the community knew they were going to do it because in their apartment they had bombs all over the floor ... and they didn't report them," he said.

"I don't know what it is. It's like they're protecting each other but they're really doing very bad damage. They have to open up to society, they have to report the bad ones."

Britain's May told parliament that Trump was mistaken.

"I understand he said that Muslims were not coming forward in the United Kingdom to report matters of concern. This is absolutely not the case - he is just plain wrong," she said.

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Reaching out to that undetectable and elusive Vast Majority

The 1.5 Million in the US who are indeed not out killing and committing random acts of terror on a daily basis since 911? That undetectable and elusive vast majority?

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The 1.5 Million in the US who are indeed not out killing and committing random acts of terror on a daily basis since 911? That undetectable and elusive vast majority?

Im referring to those in that Vast Majority who know full well who is holding, teaching, and practicing radical versions of Islam within the community and choose to remain silent about it. That Vast Majority who lets it grow within the community until someone from outside has to deal with it.

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The 1.5 Million in the US who are indeed not out killing and committing random acts of terror on a daily basis since 911? That undetectable and elusive vast majority?

Europe did not have all the problems it has until the invaders arrived 15-20 years ago. You liberals want to import the same thing over here .

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Britain's May told parliament that Trump was mistaken.

"I understand he said that Muslims were not coming forward in the United Kingdom to report matters of concern. This is absolutely not the case - he is just plain wrong," she said.

huh, go figure. trump speaking on something without the facts.

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The guy caught a week ago should have played the lotto. Given that only a tiny, almost imperceptible number of Muslims support killing in the name of Islam (I am kidding--polls say something different but stay with me please), he sure lucked into finding a whole whack of accomplices in the aftermath who helped him stay out of reach of the police.

Good luck!

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No Idea about actual help/hindrance in the US as I've never seen any figures.

I did read an article about the UK anti-radicalization outreach programs to the Muslim community. In a year period over 90% of useful tips came from the outside the community, I would expect that number to be the opposite - The community itself has been very uncooperative in helping root out the more radical elements.

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No Idea about actual help/hindrance in the US as I've never seen any figures.

I did read an article about the UK anti-radicalization outreach programs to the Muslim community. In a year period over 90% of useful tips came from the outside the community, I would expect that number to be the opposite - The community itself has been very uncooperative in helping root out the more radical elements.

So it's really the Tiny Minority who is working to weed out the radical elements. Got it.

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The guy caught a week ago should have played the lotto. Given that only a tiny, almost imperceptible number of Muslims support killing in the name of Islam (I am kidding--polls say something different but stay with me please), he sure lucked into finding a whole whack of accomplices in the aftermath who helped him stay out of reach of the police.

The Insignificant Minority seems to be almost magical at strategically spreading themselves around.

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huh, go figure. trump speaking on something without the facts.

One of the Islamic community outreach workers in Brussels interviewed on CNN said the same thing. "We knew they were radicalizing, so we banned them from the Mosque". Not "reported them" just "banned them from the mosque".

That exactly makes Trump's point.

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One of the Islamic community outreach workers in Brussels interviewed on CNN said the same thing. "We knew they were radicalizing, so we banned them from the Mosque". Not "reported them" just "banned them from the mosque".

That exactly makes Trump's point.

how do you know they didn't report them? are you basing this on the daily intelligence briefings you receive from CNN? do you think trump receives those same CNN briefings or does he get special intel? :lol:

it is completely evident to me that trump is completely COMPLETELY unqualified to be potus.

Every day the media officers of the Islamic State wake and give thanks for the candidacy of Donald Trump, which delivers one propaganda coup after another for global jihad. Today’s video celebrating the Brussels attack, prominently featuring Trump’s face and words, is no exception. You couldn’t create a better mascot for anti-West radicalism from scratch if you tried. Trump is the best imaginable caricature of decadent, stupid Western values and mores—and now that he’s jumped headlong into Islamophobia, echoing the exact “clash of civilizations” West-versus-Islam philosophy that ISIS subscribes to, he makes for a pitch-perfect recruitment tool. A famous, wealthy, grotesque American man who wants to bomb the Middle East and subjugate Muslims, and who loudly proclaims any and all adherents of Islam are unwelcome in the United States, is simply a gift to ISIS and its sympathizers. The clip above is from a video produced by the al-Battār Media Foundation, a propaganda office of the Islamic State, and distributed across Twitter, YouTube, and Telegram. It begins with a newscaster: “That is the problem inherent with attacks like this, you can talk about increasing security but there is a limit to how far you want to go.” Then, to illustrate that ominous “too far” point, we get the face of Donald Trump, lamenting about how lovely Brussels once was before it was ruined by Muslims. This was all predicted by experts including Malcolm Nance, a Navy intel veteran who runs the Terrorism Asymmetrics Project:“Good God, they’re probably cutting videos of this right now,” Nance told MSNBC after reviewing Trump’s Brussels comments. If jihadi propaganda is working, the United States has itself in part to blame. http://gawker.com/isis-thanks-donald-trump-for-making-their-point-for-the-1766870517

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how do you know they didn't report them? are you basing this on the daily intelligence briefings you receive from CNN? do you think trump receives those same CNN briefings or does he get special intel? :lol:

it is completely evident to me that trump is completely COMPLETELY unqualified to be potus.

Because the guy said they didnt. He said "we rejected them and they reached out to Sheikh Google for answers". Im repeating word for word what he said. He wasnt hiding anything. He admitted that the community did not do what they were supposed to do with those radicalized kids, before they started leaving to join up with Jihadist groups. This seems to reflect the rule, not the exception.

The underlying message of your "dont make them mad and they wont attack you" is this: an admission that the capability and willingness is there and they just need a reason. Not the best way to get your point across.

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Because the guy said they didnt. He said "we rejected them and they reached out to Sheikh Google for answers". Im repeating word for word what he said. He wasnt hiding anything. He admitted that the community did not do what they were supposed to do with those radicalized kids, before they started leaving to join up with Jihadist groups. This seems to reflect the rule, not the exception.

gotcha, CNN intel briefing.

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gotcha, CNN intel briefing.

A muslim community member from the neighborhood that the majority of the kids from Brussels who joined isis grew up in is not "intel" its getting the story from the perspective of the people who watched it build up to what it is now Edited by Expat1
 

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