Uber Driver Spree Killer Takes Six Lives In Michigan

[smilesammich 10,727]

this article from bearing arms goes out of it's way to assure readers..

1. the killer was taken alive because he behaved properly during the federal stop

2. calling this terrorism just sounds bad, not to mention completely inaccurate since the killer is white. spree killing. this is a spree killing. like the candy.

3. of course this happened to uber..uber doesn't allow their passengers to bring their guns with them! lol. like they can even enforce such a thing. pew!pew!

4. uber drivers that have had guns on them have done so much more than go on spree killings! they've broken up a choking attack in florida! and averted mass shooting in chicago! BRAVO.

all signs point to 'not a real white guy'

A multi-agency manhunt was initiated as soon as authorities had a description of the suspect and the suspect’s vehicle.

A law enforcement officer discovered a vehicle leaving the parking lot of a local bar that matched the description of that seen in the shooting, and called for backup. A felony traffic stop was then initiated.

The suspect offered no resistance during the traffic stop and complied with all law enforcement commands.

This means that kept his hands where officers could see them, did precisely what officers asked of him, and did not make sudden movements, attempt to flee on foot, resist arrest, or make other actions that could be construed as putting the lives of officers or other members of the community at potential risk.

Once the suspect was in handcuffs he was then searched and taken into custody. A semi-automatic handgun consistent with the murders was discovered in his vehicle, along with “other evidence” tying him to the shootings.

Wood TV 8 is stunningly reporting that the murderer was an Uber driver who drove fares between shootings.

The man suspected of shooting eight people in the Kalamazoo area, killing six, was an Uber driver who was apparently taking fares in between opening fire at various locations, police tell 24 Hour News 8.

Authorities are investigating reports that J___ D___* dropped off a group of people at a Fairfield Inn in Texas Township, then went next door to the Cracker Barrel and opened fired on two vehicles, killing four people.

A woman at the hotel said she heard about 10 shots, then ran outside and saw the suspect driving away at a normal rate of speed from the scene.

People at the hotel said the passengers dropped off there were interviewed by police.

The suspect does not have any known criminal record in Michigan or Indiana.

The shooting does not meet any definition of terrorism. This horrible incident is most accurately described as a spree killing (someone who kills two more more people at multiple locations), with the Cracker Barrel shooting (four fatalities, one critically injured) being a mass shooting within the spree.

Formally, Uber company policy bans guns for passengers and drivers, but the ride-sharing service has no mechanisms to enforce such a policy.

Within the past year, armed Uber drivers have broken up a choking attack attack in Florida and averted a mass shooting in Chicago.

http://bearingarms.com/uber-driver-spree-killer-takes-six-lives-michigan/

[Ban Hammer 14,394]

2. calling this terrorism just sounds bad, not to mention completely inaccurate since the killer is white. spree killing. this is a spree killing. like the candy.

you can always argue with this guy...

“These are random murders,” Kalamazoo County Undersheriff Paul Matyas told reporters.

http://heavy.com/news/2016/02/jason-dalton-kalamazoo-shooting-spree-suspect-gunman-shooter-name-photos-pictures-facebook-motive-age/

[Rob L 3,811]

this article from bearing arms goes out of it's way to assure readers..

1. the killer was taken alive because he behaved properly during the federal stop

2. calling this terrorism just sounds bad, not to mention completely inaccurate since the killer is white. spree killing. this is a spree killing. like the candy.

3. of course this happened to uber..uber doesn't allow their passengers to bring their guns with them! lol. like they can even enforce such a thing. pew!pew!

4. uber drivers that have had guns on them have done so much more than go on spree killings! they've broken up a choking attack in florida! and averted mass shooting in chicago! BRAVO.

all signs point to 'not a real white guy'

http://bearingarms.com/uber-driver-spree-killer-takes-six-lives-michigan/

I would be curious what his Uber Rating was...

[smilesammich 10,727]

you can always argue with this guy...

obviously there's a pattern here of white guys shooting random people. so relieved it isn't terrorism, dude's mugshot clears up any confusion - he's clearly white.

[ExPatty 503]

. the killer was taken alive because he behaved properly during the federal stop

True, this is why they have him. Not threatening police increases one's odds wildly of not being killed by them.

2. calling this terrorism just sounds bad, not to mention completely inaccurate since the killer is white. spree killing. this is a spree killing. like the candy.

Not only does calling it terrorism sound bad, it's also wrong. Terrorism is "the use of violence and intimidation in the pursuit of political aims." Until/unless we find out he has some kind of message he was trying to spread, there is no terrorism component.

3. of course this happened to uber..uber doesn't allow their passengers to bring their guns with them! lol. like they can even enforce such a thing. pew!pew!

I feel bad for uber over this. They had nothing to do with it. If a taxi driver did this people wouldn't care he was a taxi driver.

all signs point to 'not a real white guy'

Not so. Actually, this is very consistent with a lot of other mass shootings. White males, often without criminal records.

obviously there's a pattern here of white guys shooting random people.

There may be, even though out of 200M people it's not like all that many white people will actually do this. What can we do about them?

[smilesammich 10,727]

True, this is why they have him. Not threatening police increases one's odds wildly of not being killed by them.

Not only does calling it terrorism sound bad, it's also wrong. Terrorism is "the use of violence and intimidation in the pursuit of political aims." Until/unless we find out he has some kind of message he was trying to spread, there is no terrorism component.

I feel bad for uber over this. They had nothing to do with it. If a taxi driver did this people wouldn't care he was a taxi driver.

Not so. Actually, this is very consistent with a lot of other mass shootings. White males, often without criminal records.

There may be, even though out of 200M people it's not like all that many white people will actually do this. What can we do about them?

you know what else increases the odds of not being killed during apprehension? being white.

'the use of violence and intimidation in the pursuit of political aims" you say until/unless we find out there is some sort of message this isn't terrorism. but that standard didn't meet the mark with the planned parenthood shooter..what gives?

you feel bad for uber? weird.

white guys are a dangerous lot.

well, i think we should make all white men identify themselves when they're out and about in public. we should have some way of tracking them. just so us non-white men know what kind of possible threat level we're dealing with when approached by a random white male out of 200m 'white males that don't do this'. don't you think this is an effective approach? a wall maybe?

[ready4ONE 5,400]

Elitesthuglib are you suggesting White Male Gun Owners register ala Muslims, you know, so they can be tracked since 'a few' go on killing sprees like a few Muslims do? Brilliant! I am sure that Trump will be on this like stink on poo when he takes office.

[smilesammich 10,727]

Elitesthuglib are you suggesting White Male Gun Owners register ala Muslims, you know, so they can be tracked since 'a few' go on killing sprees like a few Muslims do? Brilliant! I am sure that Trump will be on this like stink on poo when he takes office.

i heard trump already signed himself up!

[Teddy B 17,252]

Not to take away from this tragedy, but I do think it's a bit comical that he kept picking up fares in between shootings.

[yuna628 9,891]

Ordinarily I's say push the terrorism angle pretty hard. Afterall, I still believe persons that kill others to make some sort of statement either religious, racial, or political out of their own psychosis such as the planned parenthood shooter and the Nazi punk kid at the church fit the description of a terrorist. But we don't yet know this man's motivations. Judging by his behavior described on the day, he is clearly psychotic (just like the above), however this alone does not make one a terrorist (it's only one part of it). That motivation will be revealed in time so we'll see.

Naturally Trump will call for 'YUGE' measures, like rounding up all white men and making them submit to mental health testing (to prove they are real Americans!) and building a wall around guns to keep them safe, paid for by someone.. I dunno who, but someone.

[The Nature Boy 7,659]

obviously there's a pattern here of white guys shooting random people. so relieved it isn't terrorism, dude's mugshot clears up any confusion - he's clearly white.

This clerly is not a post about spree killers. It is an attack on white people. He only picked them up as passengers to asses thier threat level

Not to take away from this tragedy, but I do think it's a bit comical that he kept picking up fares in between shootings.

Ironic maybe ?

Elitesthuglib are you suggesting White Male Gun Owners register ala Muslims, you know, so they can be tracked since 'a few' go on killing sprees like a few Muslims do? Brilliant! I am sure that Trump will be on this like stink on poo when he takes office.

Clearly there is a mistake. Uber is a gun free zone

Edited February 23, 2016 by Nature Boy Flair

[We Keep Receipts 9,238]

Actually I can name quite a few people who didn't resist and still ended up pushing up daisies. Tamir rice(wasn't enough to kill a 12 year old and not convict the cop but to bill the family 500 bucks for the ambulance ride, just wow). John Crawford(killed him then spent the rest of the day terrorizing his fiance since they didn't have any reason to kill him, they had to make up something.) I can keep going.

The simple point is that while black people can be killed for the slightest infractions, and in some cases shot for no reason at all, but white mass murderers are given every opportunity to be taken in custody without incident. Maybe there's an app for that. ..

[smilesammich 10,727]

Ordinarily I's say push the terrorism angle pretty hard. Afterall, I still believe persons that kill others to make some sort of statement either religious, racial, or political out of their own psychosis such as the planned parenthood shooter and the Nazi punk kid at the church fit the description of a terrorist. But we don't yet know this man's motivations. Judging by his behavior described on the day, he is clearly psychotic (just like the above), however this alone does not make one a terrorist (it's only one part of it). That motivation will be revealed in time so we'll see.

Naturally Trump will call for 'YUGE' measures, like rounding up all white men and making them submit to mental health testing (to prove they are real Americans!) and building a wall around guns to keep them safe, paid for by someone.. I dunno who, but someone.

personally i don't care about labeling killing sprees as terrorism. i thought this particular article was seriously overdoing the damage control, which i suppose is to be expected from "Bearing Arms".

lol, this just in from BA...THERE IS NOTHING THAT CAN BE DONE BUT MORE GUNS, NOTHING.

JUST WORDS: Obama’s Empty “Executive Actions” On Guns

• Redefine who was “in the business of” selling firearms. This was, like so much out of the Obama White House, “just words.” Neither Obama nor Lynch have the authority to arbitrarily rewrite laws. Only Congress can change laws. In any event, this executive action (“action” apparently meaning “empty rhetoric”) changes nothing, as the murderer had no criminal record, and had passed background checks.
• Change the law on “gun trusts.” The killer used a common handgun, a firearm not typically purchased by trusts. In unrelated news, I do thank the President for making it easier for me to buy a machine gun.
• Encourage more states are providing updated records to the FBI NICS background check system. The National Rifle Association has been calling for for years. While a good policy, the murderer had no record to update.
• Hire more FBI NICS investigators to conduct background checks. The murderer had no record of even non-violent misdemeanor crimes.
• Hire more ATF agents to inspect gun dealers. The killer passed all background checks, and bought his guns legally.
• Make it a crime to not report gun thefts fast enough. The gun used wasn’t stolen.
• Domestic violence outreach. There is no record or even hints that the murderer had anything but a good relationship with his family members or his spouse.
• Increase access to mental health care. There is no indication that the suspect or his family ever sought mental health care.
• Smart guns. Even if smart guns existed in a viable form (they do not) the murderer would have been authorized to use his own firearm.

damn. bearing arms just dismantled ol whitey's mental issue fall-back

[Janelle2002 3,865]

Wow, I didn't hear about this. Glad they caught him.

We have to do better at policing people who may have potential of going on killing sprees.

[smilesammich 10,727]

We have to do better at policing people who may have potential of going on killing sprees.

i think the one thing this site 'bearing arms' gets right is not naming the killer. that's one of the very few things that can be done, i think. sucks that our media won't collectively give it a try.