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You break the law, you suffer the consequences

it's not like 'hey you got a job! so let's just forget about that pesky old visa fraud and ignoring a direct order from the gov't! bygones!'

nope, sorry...and tbh, I don't care where anyone hails from. The laws are meant to be followed, and if you fail to do so, you need to be punished accordingly

I'm going house hunting the way these people immigrated. Just go take over someone's house & then ten years later say 'but I wanted a better life!'

:thumbs: Well said LisaD. Exactly what I think about this incident.

Last year, an illegal immigrant was asked why he's here and he said, with conviction, that his family has the right to purse the American dream. My jaw dropped. I cannot believe what I just heard.

These illegals, they get braver by the day.

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People use to be able to come to America for no other reason than wanting a better life. They use to be welcomed. There's a statue in New York that's all about that. Those immigrants made great contributions to American society. Why the isolationist mindset now?

There should be a method of legal entry for those wanting to come for that reason. I firmly believe that.

3 and 10 year bars are, in most cases, ridiculous. The punishment does not fit the crime. Yes there should be a penalty for 'breaking the law' but it needs to be proportionate.

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People use to be able to come to America for no other reason than wanting a better life. They use to be welcomed. There's a statue in New York that's all about that. Those immigrants made great contributions to American society. Why the isolationist mindset now?

There should be a method of legal entry for those wanting to come for that reason. I firmly believe that.

3 and 10 year bars are, in most cases, ridiculous. The punishment does not fit the crime. Yes there should be a penalty for 'breaking the law' but it needs to be proportionate.

I agree on all counts.

Foreigners should be allowed to immigrate easier to the U.S. and the three/ten year bans are a bit much, especially when the crime is overstaying. I think the U.S. is, in many cases, xenophobic. However, the issue of immigration is tricky. It almost seems that in reaction to illegal immigration, the U.S. makes legal immigration more difficult, which in my mind, doesn't make a whole lot of sense. If I were in-charge, I'd be making legal immigration easier while securing the borders and defending against illegal immigration.

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The crackdowns need to be against those who take advantage of the immigrants and not the immigrants themselves.

The biggest travesty about employers hiring illegals is hiring them for less than the wage that would be paid to a USC. In my opinion, that's nothing short of buying slaves.

Not all EWI's live it up sucking off the American Welfare System to send money home to Mexico. Many live grouped together in poor conditions. It ain't all roses out there.

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Damned near every person living here today is a decedent of someone who immigrated here for a better life. I realize that times are different now but maybe if it was easier to legally immigrate here families like this wouldn't have to try to skirt the system to live here?

I don't think overstaying a tourist visa can be compared to robbing a bank or stealing someones house. Apples and oranges... :wacko:

Sorry to be harsh, but I strongly disagree with that misguided bleeding heart logic.

There are billions of people on our planet that live on less less than $5 a day (many on less than $1 a day). Allowing anyone and everyone to immigrate to the USA in unlimited numbers is total insanity. Letting everyone to freely come here to the USA for a so called better life is not the answer to the world's problems and would eventually cut our own throats in a very short amount of time.

Sane immigration policy is about controlling our own national destiny...not about guilt trips. The America of the past is history. We now live in a modern industrialized welfare state that didn't exist in the heyday of mass American immigration. The West was won over 100 years ago and the frontier nation of the past is gone. This is the 21st Century. Wake up!

I still believe in immigration to America, but let's be realistic and sane about it. This anarchy we have now is unsustainable and totally insane. Immigrants should not control US immigration policy. That is absurd.

"Credibility in immigration policy can be summed up in one sentence: Those who should get in, get in; those who should be kept out, are kept out; and those who should not be here will be required to leave."

"...for the system to be credible, people actually have to be deported at the end of the process."

US Congresswoman Barbara Jordan (D-TX)

Testimony to the House Immigration Subcommittee, February 24, 1995

Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Australia
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yeah, but its their failed attempt at "asylum" which put them into deportation proceedings, think about it......MILLIONS of people, especially from Mexico enter in on tourist visas, overstay, do whatever, even marry USC.'s and get to stay legally.

Its their continued failed attempts at asylum which put them in that position.

Oct 29th 2004 -Met online
Oct 29th -First phone call
Dec 25th -She purposed and i said Yes!
May 10th I-130 Packet and Packet 3 sent off to me by the U.S. Consulate
May 16th -Received Packets 1-3 from the U.S. consulate
June 29th -I arrived in Puerto-Rico!
July 2nd -Married in Mayaguez, Puerto-Rico and also got our interview date for September 6th
August 17th -We arrived in Australia to file for Sep. 6th
September 6th - Filed DCF in Sydney and approved 1 hour later!
September 12 -Received my passport with the visa and yellow packet
November 24th -POE.......Guam,USA
December 12, 2005-Green Card arrived in the mail
September 11, 2007 -Filed I-751 on conditions
September 17 -VSC Receives my I-751 and issues NOA1
Oct 10 -Had biometrics taken in San Juan, Puerto Rico ASC
Oct 12 -Touched.
Aug 21, 2008 -Approved!...........finally
Sep 17, 2008 -Mailed off N-400
Oct 22, 2008 -Biometrics taken in San Juan ASC
Feb 12, 2009 -N-400 Interview
Feb 26, 2009 -Oath.....the end.

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It's a sad story, but it was not their right to stay here. They are part of the reason that tourist visas aren't handed out so easily.

As much as my heart goes out to them...this situation is entirely their doing, and the 10 year ban should remain.

Lisa Good On Ye! I agree. Laws are in place for a reason and those who willingly disobey those laws should be punished with out prejudice or special treatment.

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6/17/06 Forms Sent (I-130, I-485, and I-765)

6/19/06 RD I-130,I-485, I-765

6/26/06 NOA rcvd

7/15/06 Biometrics complete Day 22

8/4/06 Interview Notice Rcvd Day 42

9/9/06 EAD Card Received :)Day 78

9/13/06 SS Card Received :)Day 82

9/27/06 AOS Interview Los Angeles APPROVED LPR Day 96

12/04/06 Welcome To the United States Letter received

12/08/06 Green Card Received- expires 12/2016

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People use to be able to come to America for no other reason than wanting a better life. They use to be welcomed. There's a statue in New York that's all about that. Those immigrants made great contributions to American society. Why the isolationist mindset now?

There should be a method of legal entry for those wanting to come for that reason. I firmly believe that.

3 and 10 year bars are, in most cases, ridiculous. The punishment does not fit the crime. Yes there should be a penalty for 'breaking the law' but it needs to be proportionate.

10 year bans should be in place and enforced, those who willingly break federal imigration laws jeapordizing our national security should be dealth with harshly.

Immigration laws and processes are in place to protect our nation and esnure continued prosperity.

There are legal ways to immigrate to USA and those on this forum follwo the rules and have to wait sometimes years before immigrating LEGALLY, why should those criminals who entered illegally be given any special treatment.

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IMPORTANT NOTICE:Like you all, I am not an attorney ; I am a layperson (I have laid a lot of persons ) My advice is based on Experience obtained by filing ourselves

AOS met in Japan 1994 married 10/2004

DO:Los Angeles,Ca.

6/17/06 Forms Sent (I-130, I-485, and I-765)

6/19/06 RD I-130,I-485, I-765

6/26/06 NOA rcvd

7/15/06 Biometrics complete Day 22

8/4/06 Interview Notice Rcvd Day 42

9/9/06 EAD Card Received :)Day 78

9/13/06 SS Card Received :)Day 82

9/27/06 AOS Interview Los Angeles APPROVED LPR Day 96

12/04/06 Welcome To the United States Letter received

12/08/06 Green Card Received- expires 12/2016

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10 year bans should be in place and enforced, those who willingly break federal imigration laws jeapordizing our national security should be dealth with harshly.

Immigration laws and processes are in place to protect our nation and esnure continued prosperity.

There are legal ways to immigrate to USA and those on this forum follwo the rules and have to wait sometimes years before immigrating LEGALLY, why should those criminals who entered illegally be given any special treatment.

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I don't think anyone is suggesting giving illegal immigrants "special treatment." I'm certainly not. I think the message is that perhaps sometimes a ten year ban is a bit over-the-top if overstaying one's visa is the issue at hand.

If we're just talking about an immigrant that illegally entered the U.S. and had no interest at all in being here legally, then sure, ban him or her for ten years. It probably won't make much of a difference anyway. They'll find a way across the border again, and since they aren't looking for legal immigration methods, the ban won't mean much to them.

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You can of course argue how many people might want to Immigrate to the US.

The number I saw quoted which might have some validity was 3,000,000,000. Oddly many are from Countries that claim a deep hatred of the US and everything it stands for. Times have changed.

I have no sympathy with false Assylum claims.

The ban period is most likely irrelevant, on what basis would they ever be allowed entry to the US in future, with or without a ban

Wonder why they did not go back to Saudi.

“If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.”

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People use to be able to come to America for no other reason than wanting a better life. They use to be welcomed. There's a statue in New York that's all about that. Those immigrants made great contributions to American society. Why the isolationist mindset now?

There should be a method of legal entry for those wanting to come for that reason. I firmly believe that.

3 and 10 year bars are, in most cases, ridiculous. The punishment does not fit the crime. Yes there should be a penalty for 'breaking the law' but it needs to be proportionate.

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Filed: Country: Belarus
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I don't think anyone is suggesting giving illegal immigrants "special treatment." I'm certainly not. I think the message is that perhaps sometimes a ten year ban is a bit over-the-top if overstaying one's visa is the issue at hand.

If we're just talking about an immigrant that illegally entered the U.S. and had no interest at all in being here legally, then sure, ban him or her for ten years. It probably won't make much of a difference anyway. They'll find a way across the border again, and since they aren't looking for legal immigration methods, the ban won't mean much to them.

These bans are put into place as a deterent. It isn't like these people accidently overstayed a day or two. Not to mention...the law is plainly spelled out and allows for minor infractions. They got what they deserved.

The bottom line is that immigrants do not control immigration policy in the USA. Immigration by anarchy is not in our national self interest.

"Credibility in immigration policy can be summed up in one sentence: Those who should get in, get in; those who should be kept out, are kept out; and those who should not be here will be required to leave."

"...for the system to be credible, people actually have to be deported at the end of the process."

US Congresswoman Barbara Jordan (D-TX)

Testimony to the House Immigration Subcommittee, February 24, 1995

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There was an interesting story on the local news yesterday about a Mexican who entered here illegally, worked his way up to Harvard and is now a renowned brain surgeon in the US..

http://www.wjla.com/news/stories/0207/401117.html

According to the Internal Revenue Service, the 400 richest American households earned a total of $US138 billion, up from $US105 billion a year earlier. That's an average of $US345 million each, on which they paid a tax rate of just 16.6 per cent.

 

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