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So, my fiance went to an interview today and the consular officer asked for 3 things that were not mentioned on the official website for documents needed for K1 visas (fiance)

1. Your publications in university or at work (what did he mean?) he mentioned something like resume, will it work? (my fiance is 25 and he just finished University in Russia)

2. Your list of classes (does it have to be official from university like with dean's signature and stuff, does anyone know?)

3. Our skype screenshots (my boyfriend gave CO photographs, facebook screenshots, my tickets and other things but the only thing missing at the time of the interview - CO asked for and said that my boyfriend has to send that to him. We literally had A LOT of evidence)

So, my question is, why didn't the embassy put the list of documents needed on the website? And will my boyfriend get approved of K1 visa or not when he'll bring all of those documents? Because CO said that he'll look and the documents missing and then decide if my boyfriend get's approved or not. And my boyfriend is a computer science major.

Thank you, in case anyone answers and good luck at your interviews!


I'm the petitioner

  • Met: August 13th, 2010 month later decided to start relationship
  • Proposed - Jabuary, 2015
  • Decided to apply for k-1 visa - March, 2015
  • Sent I-129f to USCIS - March 27th, 2015
  • Got notification on I-129f - March 31st, 2015
  • NOA1 - April 7th, 2015
  • NOA 2 - April 30th, 2015
  • NOA 2 (hardcopy) - May 4th, 2015
  • NVC - May 13th, 2015
  • case sent to the embassy - May 15th, 2015
  • Ready to schedule an interview in embassy (on CEAC) - May 19th, 2015
  • Documents arrived to Russia and can physically schedule an interview - June 3rd, 2015
  • Interview (!!!!!) - June 11th, 2015 (neither approved or denied)
  • Administrative Processing - from 11th of June to July 15th

Green card:

  • Sent i-485, August 7th, 2015
  • Notification that they received it - August 13th, 2015
  • Noa-1 Sent to us - (were on vacation, got it on August 22nd)
  • Fingerprint appointment - September 1st, 2015
  • Walk-in - August 24th, 2015
  • RFE - August 26th, 2015
  • RFE evidence received in USCIS - September 14th, 2015

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***** Moving from K1 Progress Reports to Procedure for more answers *****

COs treat each case separately, so not everyone will be asked for the same thing; what is on the website tends to be the bare minimum.

1/2 on your list is odd though, and rarely asked for. You mention he is a Comp Sci major, but did your fiance (semantics is important there- fiance indicates you are about to get married, which is a requirement of the K1, boyfriend does not) also study something that could impact National Security? Say biochemistry or something related to weapons, or maybe write a paper on hacking or the NSA or some such?


Bye: Penguin

Me: Irish/ Swiss citizen, and now naturalised US citizen. Husband: USC; twin babies born Feb 08 in Ireland and a daughter in Feb 2010 in Arkansas who are all joint Irish/ USC. Did DCF (IR1) in 6 weeks via the Dublin, Ireland embassy and now living in Arkansas.

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***** Moving from K1 Progress Reports to Procedure for more answers *****

COs treat each case separately, so not everyone will be asked for the same thing; what is on the website tends to be the bare minimum.

1/2 on your list is odd though, and rarely asked for. You mention he is a Comp Sci major, but did your fiance (semantics is important there- fiance indicates you are about to get married, which is a requirement of the K1, boyfriend does not) also study something that could impact National Security? Say biochemistry or something related to weapons, or maybe write a paper on hacking or the NSA or some such?

Nope. Nothing at all. He just studied algorithms and math, nothing like biochemistry, hacking and other things like that.


I'm the petitioner

  • Met: August 13th, 2010 month later decided to start relationship
  • Proposed - Jabuary, 2015
  • Decided to apply for k-1 visa - March, 2015
  • Sent I-129f to USCIS - March 27th, 2015
  • Got notification on I-129f - March 31st, 2015
  • NOA1 - April 7th, 2015
  • NOA 2 - April 30th, 2015
  • NOA 2 (hardcopy) - May 4th, 2015
  • NVC - May 13th, 2015
  • case sent to the embassy - May 15th, 2015
  • Ready to schedule an interview in embassy (on CEAC) - May 19th, 2015
  • Documents arrived to Russia and can physically schedule an interview - June 3rd, 2015
  • Interview (!!!!!) - June 11th, 2015 (neither approved or denied)
  • Administrative Processing - from 11th of June to July 15th

Green card:

  • Sent i-485, August 7th, 2015
  • Notification that they received it - August 13th, 2015
  • Noa-1 Sent to us - (were on vacation, got it on August 22nd)
  • Fingerprint appointment - September 1st, 2015
  • Walk-in - August 24th, 2015
  • RFE - August 26th, 2015
  • RFE evidence received in USCIS - September 14th, 2015

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Some aspects of computer science require additional scrutiny to ensure there is no reason to believe that a technology transfer, should it occur, would impact national security. I suspect "algorithms" might be such an area. The reason they can't list each and every document needed is because things like this arise in individual cases and are not required for most cases. The list is the minimum that every applicant has to supply, not an exhaustive list. I'm sure it will all be sorted out soon, once he submits the requested information.

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Have to agree with jan22 on this one. The fact he is a computer science major probably piqued the interest of the interviewer as that falls under TAL (Technology Alert List).

Excerpts:

"The TAL is a list created to provide guidance to consular officers when reviewing visa applications in order to prevent export of sensitive information or technology".

"Although TAL may be applied to applicants from any country, students and scholars from the DOS state sponsors of terrorism list (Cuba, Iran, North Korea, Sudan and Syria) and the five nonproliferation export control countries (China, India, Israel, Pakistan and Russia) are the groups most impacted by TAL-related issues and delays. (Please note that the list below is non-exhaustive, and the actual TAL is classified)"

The list I have seen includes:

i. Conventional Munitions;
ii. Nuclear Technology, Physics, and Engineering;
iii. Rocket Systems and Unmanned Air Vehicle;
iv. Navigation, Avionics and Flight Control;
v. Chemical, Biotechnology and Biomedical Engineering;
vi. Remote Sensing, Imaging and Reconnaissance;
vii. Advanced Computer/Microelectronic Technology;
viii. Materials Technology;
ix. Information Security;

x. Laser and Directed Energy Systems Technology;
xi. Sensors and Sensor Technology;
xii. Marine Technology; and
xiii. Robotics Urban Planning

I can see computer science (especially studies in regards to algorithms) falling under section vii and/or ix.


ROC - July 2017 CSC Filer (I-751 July 2017 Filers Spreadsheet)

  • 7/15/2017: I-751 Sent
  • 7/17/2017: I-751 Received
  • 7/18/2017: NOA1 Date
  • 7/20/2017: Cheque Cashed
  • 7/21/2017: NOA1 Received
  • 7/29/2017: Biometrics Received
  • 8/10/2017: Biometics Appointment Completed
  • 2/26/2018: Case Received at Local Office

 

July 2017 ROC Filers Posting Template:

Quote

Service Center: CSC/VSC
First 5 Digits from WAC/EAC Receipt #: E.g. WAC17290
NOA1 Date: E.g. July 15, 2017
Filed N-400?: Yes/No
Case Transferred?: Yes/No

     If yes, provide to what service center? On what date?: Yes/No; Transferred to NSC (Nebraska Service Center) on August 18, 2018

Approved?: Yes/No

     If yes, what was the date of your approval?: October 1, 2018

     If yes, did you have a RFE (Request for Evidence)? On what date?: Yes/No; September 1, 2018

     If yes, did you have an interview? On what date?: Yes/No; September 30, 2018

Any other information: E.g. Received my 18-month extension letter on XX; Issues cashing our check originally, etc.

 

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Some aspects of computer science require additional scrutiny to ensure there is no reason to believe that a technology transfer, should it occur, would impact national security. I suspect "algorithms" might be such an area. The reason they can't list each and every document needed is because things like this arise in individual cases and are not required for most cases. The list is the minimum that every applicant has to supply, not an exhaustive list. I'm sure it will all be sorted out soon, once he submits the requested information.

Have to agree with jan22 on this one. The fact he is a computer science major probably piqued the interest of the interviewer as that falls under TAL (Technology Alert List).

Excerpts:

"The TAL is a list created to provide guidance to consular officers when reviewing visa applications in order to prevent export of sensitive information or technology".

"Although TAL may be applied to applicants from any country, students and scholars from the DOS state sponsors of terrorism list (Cuba, Iran, North Korea, Sudan and Syria) and the five nonproliferation export control countries (China, India, Israel, Pakistan and Russia) are the groups most impacted by TAL-related issues and delays. (Please note that the list below is non-exhaustive, and the actual TAL is classified)"

The list I have seen includes:

i. Conventional Munitions;

ii. Nuclear Technology, Physics, and Engineering;

iii. Rocket Systems and Unmanned Air Vehicle;

iv. Navigation, Avionics and Flight Control;

v. Chemical, Biotechnology and Biomedical Engineering;

vi. Remote Sensing, Imaging and Reconnaissance;

vii. Advanced Computer/Microelectronic Technology;

viii. Materials Technology;

ix. Information Security;

x. Laser and Directed Energy Systems Technology;

xi. Sensors and Sensor Technology;

xii. Marine Technology; and

xiii. Robotics Urban Planning

I can see computer science (especially studies in regards to algorithms) falling under section vii and/or ix.

Thank you, guys!

We are sending the documents today, the latest - tomorrow. And its a pain in a butt to translate all of the classes from Russian to English. :( And his job duties. Hopefully it will not take that long, but honestly, I wasn't expecting any of that. Do any of you know, by any chance, how long would all of this take (the CO reviewing all of the documents)?


I'm the petitioner

  • Met: August 13th, 2010 month later decided to start relationship
  • Proposed - Jabuary, 2015
  • Decided to apply for k-1 visa - March, 2015
  • Sent I-129f to USCIS - March 27th, 2015
  • Got notification on I-129f - March 31st, 2015
  • NOA1 - April 7th, 2015
  • NOA 2 - April 30th, 2015
  • NOA 2 (hardcopy) - May 4th, 2015
  • NVC - May 13th, 2015
  • case sent to the embassy - May 15th, 2015
  • Ready to schedule an interview in embassy (on CEAC) - May 19th, 2015
  • Documents arrived to Russia and can physically schedule an interview - June 3rd, 2015
  • Interview (!!!!!) - June 11th, 2015 (neither approved or denied)
  • Administrative Processing - from 11th of June to July 15th

Green card:

  • Sent i-485, August 7th, 2015
  • Notification that they received it - August 13th, 2015
  • Noa-1 Sent to us - (were on vacation, got it on August 22nd)
  • Fingerprint appointment - September 1st, 2015
  • Walk-in - August 24th, 2015
  • RFE - August 26th, 2015
  • RFE evidence received in USCIS - September 14th, 2015

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*** Thread moved from K-1 Process forum to the Embassy/Consulate forum -- topic involves that phase. ***


06-04-2007 = TSC stamps postal return-receipt for I-129f.

06-11-2007 = NOA1 date (unknown to me).

07-20-2007 = Phoned Immigration Officer; got WAC#; where's NOA1?

09-25-2007 = Touch (first-ever).

09-28-2007 = NOA1, 23 days after their 45-day promise to send it (grrrr).

10-20 & 11-14-2007 = Phoned ImmOffs; "still pending."

12-11-2007 = 180 days; file is "between workstations, may be early Jan."; touches 12/11 & 12/12.

12-18-2007 = Call; file is with Division 9 ofcr. (bckgrnd check); e-prompt to shake it; touch.

12-19-2007 = NOA2 by e-mail & web, dated 12-18-07 (187 days; 201 per VJ); in mail 12/24/07.

01-09-2008 = File from USCIS to NVC, 1-4-08; NVC creates file, 1/15/08; to consulate 1/16/08.

01-23-2008 = Consulate gets file; outdated Packet 4 mailed to fiancee 1/27/08; rec'd 3/3/08.

04-29-2008 = Fiancee's 4-min. consular interview, 8:30 a.m.; much evidence brought but not allowed to be presented (consul: "More proof! Second interview! Bring your fiance!").

05-05-2008 = Infuriating $12 call to non-English-speaking consulate appointment-setter.

05-06-2008 = Better $12 call to English-speaker; "joint" interview date 6/30/08 (my selection).

06-30-2008 = Stokes Interrogations w/Ecuadorian (not USC); "wait 2 weeks; we'll mail her."

07-2008 = Daily calls to DOS: "currently processing"; 8/05 = Phoned consulate, got Section Chief; wrote him.

08-07-08 = E-mail from consulate, promising to issue visa "as soon as we get her passport" (on 8/12, per DHL).

08-27-08 = Phoned consulate (they "couldn't find" our file); visa DHL'd 8/28; in hand 9/1; through POE on 10/9 with NO hassles(!).

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The review is not done at the Embassy -- it's done in Washington. Usually takes a couple of weeks, but there's no guarantee of that. Hang in there!

Well, I've heard that. That its in DC. The thing is, they emailed us saying that it might take 2-4 weeks but I've seen that usually it takes around 60 days.. So, I'm just wondering if I am even going to make to to Florida with my soon to be husband. Lol (wanted to spend 2 weeks together in FL in August)


I'm the petitioner

  • Met: August 13th, 2010 month later decided to start relationship
  • Proposed - Jabuary, 2015
  • Decided to apply for k-1 visa - March, 2015
  • Sent I-129f to USCIS - March 27th, 2015
  • Got notification on I-129f - March 31st, 2015
  • NOA1 - April 7th, 2015
  • NOA 2 - April 30th, 2015
  • NOA 2 (hardcopy) - May 4th, 2015
  • NVC - May 13th, 2015
  • case sent to the embassy - May 15th, 2015
  • Ready to schedule an interview in embassy (on CEAC) - May 19th, 2015
  • Documents arrived to Russia and can physically schedule an interview - June 3rd, 2015
  • Interview (!!!!!) - June 11th, 2015 (neither approved or denied)
  • Administrative Processing - from 11th of June to July 15th

Green card:

  • Sent i-485, August 7th, 2015
  • Notification that they received it - August 13th, 2015
  • Noa-1 Sent to us - (were on vacation, got it on August 22nd)
  • Fingerprint appointment - September 1st, 2015
  • Walk-in - August 24th, 2015
  • RFE - August 26th, 2015
  • RFE evidence received in USCIS - September 14th, 2015

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It takes as long as it takes. Keep the faith.


06-04-2007 = TSC stamps postal return-receipt for I-129f.

06-11-2007 = NOA1 date (unknown to me).

07-20-2007 = Phoned Immigration Officer; got WAC#; where's NOA1?

09-25-2007 = Touch (first-ever).

09-28-2007 = NOA1, 23 days after their 45-day promise to send it (grrrr).

10-20 & 11-14-2007 = Phoned ImmOffs; "still pending."

12-11-2007 = 180 days; file is "between workstations, may be early Jan."; touches 12/11 & 12/12.

12-18-2007 = Call; file is with Division 9 ofcr. (bckgrnd check); e-prompt to shake it; touch.

12-19-2007 = NOA2 by e-mail & web, dated 12-18-07 (187 days; 201 per VJ); in mail 12/24/07.

01-09-2008 = File from USCIS to NVC, 1-4-08; NVC creates file, 1/15/08; to consulate 1/16/08.

01-23-2008 = Consulate gets file; outdated Packet 4 mailed to fiancee 1/27/08; rec'd 3/3/08.

04-29-2008 = Fiancee's 4-min. consular interview, 8:30 a.m.; much evidence brought but not allowed to be presented (consul: "More proof! Second interview! Bring your fiance!").

05-05-2008 = Infuriating $12 call to non-English-speaking consulate appointment-setter.

05-06-2008 = Better $12 call to English-speaker; "joint" interview date 6/30/08 (my selection).

06-30-2008 = Stokes Interrogations w/Ecuadorian (not USC); "wait 2 weeks; we'll mail her."

07-2008 = Daily calls to DOS: "currently processing"; 8/05 = Phoned consulate, got Section Chief; wrote him.

08-07-08 = E-mail from consulate, promising to issue visa "as soon as we get her passport" (on 8/12, per DHL).

08-27-08 = Phoned consulate (they "couldn't find" our file); visa DHL'd 8/28; in hand 9/1; through POE on 10/9 with NO hassles(!).

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I'm just curious. We've send them documents, how do we know if they received them? Should we send them another email asking them if they got those documents?


I'm the petitioner

  • Met: August 13th, 2010 month later decided to start relationship
  • Proposed - Jabuary, 2015
  • Decided to apply for k-1 visa - March, 2015
  • Sent I-129f to USCIS - March 27th, 2015
  • Got notification on I-129f - March 31st, 2015
  • NOA1 - April 7th, 2015
  • NOA 2 - April 30th, 2015
  • NOA 2 (hardcopy) - May 4th, 2015
  • NVC - May 13th, 2015
  • case sent to the embassy - May 15th, 2015
  • Ready to schedule an interview in embassy (on CEAC) - May 19th, 2015
  • Documents arrived to Russia and can physically schedule an interview - June 3rd, 2015
  • Interview (!!!!!) - June 11th, 2015 (neither approved or denied)
  • Administrative Processing - from 11th of June to July 15th

Green card:

  • Sent i-485, August 7th, 2015
  • Notification that they received it - August 13th, 2015
  • Noa-1 Sent to us - (were on vacation, got it on August 22nd)
  • Fingerprint appointment - September 1st, 2015
  • Walk-in - August 24th, 2015
  • RFE - August 26th, 2015
  • RFE evidence received in USCIS - September 14th, 2015

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Hi there. Today (June 16 2015) I had my K-1 visa interview in Ankara/Turkey.

CO asked me to show him my resume and I didn't have any resume with me because I never thought it could be necessary to take it. So yeah. He asked me to send it by e-mail. and he told me that my case is in administrative processing.

Is there any updates in your case?

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Hi there. Today (June 16 2015) I had my K-1 visa interview in Ankara/Turkey.

CO asked me to show him my resume and I didn't have any resume with me because I never thought it could be necessary to take it. So yeah. He asked me to send it by e-mail. and he told me that my case is in administrative processing.

Is there any updates in your case?

Hey!

My fiance sent them an email regarding our dcouments and they said that they've received them but it will take a minimum of 3 weeks to have an administrative processing.


I'm the petitioner

  • Met: August 13th, 2010 month later decided to start relationship
  • Proposed - Jabuary, 2015
  • Decided to apply for k-1 visa - March, 2015
  • Sent I-129f to USCIS - March 27th, 2015
  • Got notification on I-129f - March 31st, 2015
  • NOA1 - April 7th, 2015
  • NOA 2 - April 30th, 2015
  • NOA 2 (hardcopy) - May 4th, 2015
  • NVC - May 13th, 2015
  • case sent to the embassy - May 15th, 2015
  • Ready to schedule an interview in embassy (on CEAC) - May 19th, 2015
  • Documents arrived to Russia and can physically schedule an interview - June 3rd, 2015
  • Interview (!!!!!) - June 11th, 2015 (neither approved or denied)
  • Administrative Processing - from 11th of June to July 15th

Green card:

  • Sent i-485, August 7th, 2015
  • Notification that they received it - August 13th, 2015
  • Noa-1 Sent to us - (were on vacation, got it on August 22nd)
  • Fingerprint appointment - September 1st, 2015
  • Walk-in - August 24th, 2015
  • RFE - August 26th, 2015
  • RFE evidence received in USCIS - September 14th, 2015

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Hope AP for all if us gets over ASAP. Can you update right here in comments in case you get something? So I can see the day your visa gets approved?

Thanks in advance and good luck :)

Well, interview was on 11th and that's when he received 221g.

For some reason, my case "status" is updated daily now. I wonder why


I'm the petitioner

  • Met: August 13th, 2010 month later decided to start relationship
  • Proposed - Jabuary, 2015
  • Decided to apply for k-1 visa - March, 2015
  • Sent I-129f to USCIS - March 27th, 2015
  • Got notification on I-129f - March 31st, 2015
  • NOA1 - April 7th, 2015
  • NOA 2 - April 30th, 2015
  • NOA 2 (hardcopy) - May 4th, 2015
  • NVC - May 13th, 2015
  • case sent to the embassy - May 15th, 2015
  • Ready to schedule an interview in embassy (on CEAC) - May 19th, 2015
  • Documents arrived to Russia and can physically schedule an interview - June 3rd, 2015
  • Interview (!!!!!) - June 11th, 2015 (neither approved or denied)
  • Administrative Processing - from 11th of June to July 15th

Green card:

  • Sent i-485, August 7th, 2015
  • Notification that they received it - August 13th, 2015
  • Noa-1 Sent to us - (were on vacation, got it on August 22nd)
  • Fingerprint appointment - September 1st, 2015
  • Walk-in - August 24th, 2015
  • RFE - August 26th, 2015
  • RFE evidence received in USCIS - September 14th, 2015

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