How Gun Control Made England The 'Most Violent Country In Europe

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Peace/2014/09/24/How-Gun-Control-Made-England-The-Most-Violent-Country-In-Europe

[Curmudgeon 227]

Quite so, violent crimes. Now come back to me when you know the deaths and serious injuries as a result of crime as apposed to 'violent crimes' Many

'Violent crimes' in the UK do not even register as crimes in the US, just so you have something to work from.

[Karee 4,189]

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Peace/2014/09/24/How-Gun-Control-Made-England-The-Most-Violent-Country-In-Europe

Seems whoever game up with that graphic needs a Geography lesson. South Africa isn't in Europe or part of the EU. Neither is Canada.

Edited October 28, 2014 by Karee

[Curmudgeon 227]

Oh look http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/homicide.htm

Homicides per 100,000 in the US, 5.2, by firearm, 3,6. Not much to gloat over in these figures, is there?

If you look up what constitutes a violent crime in the UK you will understand why this stands out as a high figure. Basically, the UK doesn't tolerate any form of violence, even pushing can be cited as a violent crime.

[Karee 4,189]

even pushing can be cited as a violent crime.

That explains a lot.

[Curmudgeon 227]

That explains a lot.

The uk criminal system is very different to that of the US. Most crimes are tried by magistrate, only the most serious of crimes get sent to criminal court. I think if you took out all the non serious crimes that were handled at magistrate level, the crime figures would be very, very different.

[lostinblue 1,989]

Oh look http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/homicide.htm

Homicides per 100,000 in the US, 5.2, by firearm, 3,6. Not much to gloat over in these figures, is there?

If you look up what constitutes a violent crime in the UK you will understand why this stands out as a high figure. Basically, the UK doesn't tolerate any form of violence, even pushing can be cited as a violent crime.

Police not recording a fifth of crimes, watchdog report suggests

A fifth of crimes in England and Wales could be going unrecorded by police, according to a report.

One report of rape was not recorded because of "workload pressure", the inspection of 13 forces found.

Inspectors listened to original calls from the public and the resulting incident reports to check whether or not crimes had been recorded correctly.

Out of a sample of 3,102 incidents across 13 forces audited so far, HMIC found 2,551 crimes should have been recorded but 523 were not. This included reported sexual offences, violent crimes, robbery and burglary.

Describing "workload pressure" being cited as the basis for not recording a report of rape, the report said: "In this example, it was considered that recording the crime would entail too much work, as the officer made a judgment that the circumstances of the complaint made it unlikely that the case would be prosecuted."

An unrecorded crime is classed as one that is reported to the police, but not recorded as an offence.

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The failure rate among the forces so far inspected was too high, HMIC found.

"We believe that it is weak or absent management, poor knowledge on the part of those making the crime recording decisions with the crime recording rules, weak or absent training or workload pressures," said Chief Inspector of Constabulary Tom Winsor.

"But because the failure rate is as high as it is... it is impossible to rule out discreditable or unethical behaviour."

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-27226110

[Sousuke 1,214]

If you compare the countries apples to apples (because the FBI classifies less crimes as violent than the UK) the stats are closer to 775 per 100,000 using FBI classification. Thats a little less than double the US.

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

Homicide rates in the UK are around a fifth of that in the US. There isn't an industrialized country on this planet that comes even close to the US in terms of homicide. Not one.

No wonder with all these fools running around armed around these parts.

[DavenRoxy 1,073]

Now come back to me when ...

Can he do that? Come back to you, that is. I mean, was he ever even really WITH you?

even pushing can be cited as a violent crime.

I always suspected they were a bunch of sissies...

No wonder with all these fools running around armed around these parts.

Remind us all... how many guns do you own?

[Penny Lane 8,159]

This was a poorly thought out post.

[Penny Lane 8,159]

Remind us all... how many guns do you own?

Do we have to have guns to have opinions on them?

I mean, that is okay with me if we're gonna make it a rule, but I propose we extend it. That way I can stop listening to old white men talk about reproductive systems they don't own.

[GandD 5,966]

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

Homicide rates in the UK are around a fifth of that in the US. There isn't an industrialized country on this planet that comes even close to the US in terms of homicide. Not one.

No wonder with all these fools running around armed around these parts.

Remind us all... how many guns do you own?

I'm not a fool. Hence, I own none.

[DavenRoxy 1,073]

I'm not a fool. Hence, I own none.

So you're saying all gun owners are fools?