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Hamas has instructed Gaza residents to ignore text messages and phonecalls urging them to evacuate buildings, in an apparent effort to grow its supply of "human shields." The calls and messages are sent by Israeli military officials in order to give civilians time to evacuate the area, and are communicated before the IDF targets a house terrorists were using as cover for firing missiles at Israel or for other military purposes.

The Hamas-run Palestinian Authority Interior Ministry said in a message to Gaza residents that the messages "are designed to weaken our resolve and to sow panic and fear among us, in light of the failures of our enemies. We call on Gaza residents not to pay attention to these messages and not to leave their homes."

The message did not say whether Hamas would dispatch personnel to ensure that individuals inside targeted buildings remain inside.

The move, Israeli officials said, was apparently designed to prevent the ongoing demolishing of homes and buildings belonging to top Hamas terrorists. Since the beginning of Operation Protective Edge three days ago, the IDF said Thursday, it has hit over 800 terror targets in Gaza – more than in the entire six days of 2012's Operation Defensive Shield.

In the 24 hours until 6 a.m. Thursday, the army said, 322 terror targets were destroyed, including 217 rocket-launching sites, as well as the homes of 46 Hamas commanders. By now, the army said, nearly all of Hamas' top commanders and their families were homeless.

On Wednesday, The IDF published video and photographic evidence of the use of human shields by Hamas. In a screenshot of a television broadcast from July 8, civilians gather on the roof of the home of a Hamas terrorist who was targeted by the IDF. They did so in order to act as human shields and deter an imminent IDF attack, explained the military.

In one instance near the start of Operation Protective Edge, seven people were killed after locals responded to an Israeli warning flare by flocking to act as human shields at the site of the intended strike just moments before it was hit.

Israeli leaders have often accused Hamas and other Arab terrorist groups of committing a "double war crime" via such methods - firing indiscriminately at Israeli civilians while using Palestinian Arab civilians as human shields.

In an interview earlier Thursday Economic Minister and Jewish Home party head Naftali Bennett said that Hamas was to blame for any civilian casualties in Gaza as a result.

"Hamas has missile-launchers hidden in homes and in schools," he said. "I myself was a commando fighter in Gaza and I saw missile-launchers in the living room of a home. When you do this you are killing your own children. Hamas is clearly responsible for the very unfortunate death of Arab citizens."

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With all due respect, to assign responsibility for this conflict and its casualties entirely to Hamas is a tad disingenuous.

You guys are occupying Arab land. That would be the original sin here. Not Hamas asking people to ignore evac orders.

With all due respect, now you're being disingenuous. Everyone knows that this conflict is all Obamas fault.

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With all due respect, to assign responsibility for this conflict and its casualties entirely to Hamas is a tad disingenuous.

You guys are occupying Arab land. That would be the original sin here. Not Hamas asking people to ignore evac orders.

Several weeks ago I made comments about savage settlers and you called me antisemitic(despite the fact I am both Israeli and Jewish). Obviously, I have a severe problem with settlements in the west bank.

HOWEVER, there is never just one right and one wrong. What Hamas is doing, has nothing to do with occupation of the west bank, lets not fool ourselves. It is alot closer to the reasons that Isis is doing what it is doing than anything to do with occupation. Occupation is only the excuse. And even if it was due to occupation, you don't see the Tibetans firing rockets into China. Nothing justifies it. Nor does anything justify Hamas wanting to sacrifice the people of Gaza just to get some nice images on TV so that pressure will be put on Israel to stop the operation and stop committing "war crimes". Hamas does not care about occupation, because Hamas does not even care about the people living in Gaza or the west bank. Hamas only cares about Hamas, and about killing Israelis.

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HOWEVER, there is never just one right and one wrong. What Hamas is doing, has nothing to do with occupation of the west bank, lets not fool ourselves. It is alot closer to the reasons that Isis is doing what it is doing than anything to do with occupation. Occupation is only the excuse. And even if it was due to occupation, you don't see the Tibetans firing rockets into China. Nothing justifies it. Nor does anything justify Hamas wanting to sacrifice the people of Gaza just to get some nice images on TV so that pressure will be put on Israel to stop the operation and stop committing "war crimes". Hamas does not care about occupation, because Hamas does not even care about the people living in Gaza or the west bank. Hamas only cares about Hamas, and about killing Israelis.

Tibet has no chance of ever being free until they start firing rockets into China. Even then, it might be too late now that Tibet is almost half Han.

As for not just one right or wrong, you are correct. It's more like a chain of rights and wrongs. One leads to the next, and the next and the next.

The first piece of the chain? The Israeli occupation.

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He is done with the peanut gallery and will only reply to respectful posters like himself.

More like posters that are actually himself ;-)

Tibet has no chance of ever being free until they start firing rockets into China. Even then, it might be too late now that Tibet is almost half Han.

As for not just one right or wrong, you are correct. It's more like a chain of rights and wrongs. One leads to the next, and the next and the next.

The first piece of the chain? The Israeli occupation.

Rockets might be a tall order in Tibet.

I'm sure they could rig a mean trebuchet though...

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(Comment violating TOS ha been removed from quote - VJ Moderation)

Several weeks ago I made comments about savage settlers and you called me antisemitic(despite the fact I am both Israeli and Jewish). Obviously, I have a severe problem with settlements in the west bank.

HOWEVER, there is never just one right and one wrong. What Hamas is doing, has nothing to do with occupation of the west bank, lets not fool ourselves. It is alot closer to the reasons that Isis is doing what it is doing than anything to do with occupation. Occupation is only the excuse. And even if it was due to occupation, you don't see the Tibetans firing rockets into China. Nothing justifies it. Nor does anything justify Hamas wanting to sacrifice the people of Gaza just to get some nice images on TV so that pressure will be put on Israel to stop the operation and stop committing "war crimes". Hamas does not care about occupation, because Hamas does not even care about the people living in Gaza or the west bank. Hamas only cares about Hamas, and about killing Israelis.

But then it's hard to argue that Israel doesn't care about the people living in Gaza. If they did - they wouldn't be shooting rockets at them.

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Even leftist Gershon Baskin is backing the IDF operation:

http://israelmatzav.blogspot.com/2014/07/prominent-leftist-backing-idf-action-in.html

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But then it's hard to argue that Israel doesn't care about the people living in Gaza. If they did - they wouldn't be shooting rockets at them.

If that was true, they wouldn't be receiving water, electricity and healthcare.


They are not savages, that's why.

Attacking the very soldiers that are there to protect you, when even in YOUR own words they should not be there to begin with which I agree with...if that is not being savages, what is

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01/23/2013: Paid I-864 Bill; Paid IV Bill
02/05/2013: IV Package Sent
02/18/2013: AOS Package Sent
03/22/2013: Case complete
05/06/2013: Interview Scheduled

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07/01/2016: Biometrics Completed.

08/17/2016: Interview scheduled & approved.

09/16/2016: Scheduled oath ceremony.

09/16/2016: THE END - 4 year long process all done!

 

 

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Posted (edited)

Even leftist Gershon Baskin is backing the IDF operation:

http://israelmatzav.blogspot.com/2014/07/prominent-leftist-backing-idf-action-in.html

(comment violating TOS - inciting hatred - has been removed from quote - VJ Moderation)

If that was true, they wouldn't be receiving water, electricity and healthcare.

They are not savages? Attacking the very soldiers that are there to protect you, when even in YOUR own words they should not be there to begin with which I agree with...if that is not being savages, what is it?

I bet they wouldn't provide even that but for international pressure.

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