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Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: Ecuador
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Hello all! My wife just took her test this past Monday and has her ceremony this friday. Horrible part is my in laws bought their tickets to be here next month assuming it took 5 mo to process well it went faster. We don't want to change the date because I've heard stories of people waiting 6 months for a new date. So we figure there's a reason why this processed so quickly. My question is how many guests is my wife allowed to bring to the ceremony. It doesn't list on her appointment letter just says dress well and be there promptly. I've never been to a oath ceremony and don't even know what do I wear? Dress pants and nice shirt or full out suite and tie? Thanks everyone

Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: Ecuador
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Also I wanted to know how come they will officially recognized her country of birth but not citizens ship during the ceremony. This is a big deal to her and she's proud of her country Ecuador (and america) and has no ties to her birth country of France but at the ceremony they're going to announce France and she will have to rise.

Filed: Citizen (pnd) Country: Laos
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1) Use common sense when deciding what to wear. From my very limited familiarity with Naturalisation Oath Ceremonies, a "full out suit and tie" would be somewhat of an overkill. I suppose a good rule of thumb is to assume that whatever was worn at the naturalisation interview (and in which you would feel comfortable being photographed) is appropriate for the Oath Ceremony. This standard varies from person to person.

2) Guests are usually permitted to attend Naturalisation Oath Ceremonies, but this varies from one local field office to the next. Best advice is to enquire with your local field office, read up on the local field office profile on the USCIS website, or perform a simple Google search.

3) The information in your follow-up post sounds a little odd to me. I have never heard the term "Country of Birth" referenced in respect to about-to-be naturalised citizens at Naturalisation Oath Ceremonies. The language seems always to be "Country of Origin." Could you indicate what's led you to believe otherwise. You very well could be right, and in that case, I'd be quite surprised.

Look out for the language used in this Naturalisation Oath Ceremony as a reference data point: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MrTRj8mi-P8

Panem today, Panem tomorrow, Panem forever...

I have neither legal training nor immigration expertise; all comments posted must therefore be consumed in that vein.

My Naturalisation Timeline (Last updated: 16-April-14)

29-MAR-14: N-400 Petition Dispatched to USCIS [t-2]

30-MAR-14: Eligible to File N-400 Petition [t-1]

31-MAR-14: N-400 Petition Received by USCIS [t=0]

31-MAR-14: I-797C (Notice of Action) Dated [t=0]

31-MAR-14: I-797C (Notice of Action) Priority Date [t=0]

04-APR-14: Payment cheque cashed by USCIS [t+4]

07-APR-14: Online Status - Biometrics Appointment Notice Dispatched [t+7]

07-APR-14: Biometrics Appointment Notice Dated [t+7]

08-APR-14: I-797C (Notice of Action) Received [t+8]

14-APR-14: Biometrics Appointment Notice Received [t+14]

01-MAY-14: Biometrics Appointment [t+31]

00-XXX-14: Online Status - Placed in-line for Naturalisation Interview Scheduling

00-XXX-14: Online Status - Naturalisation Interview Scheduled

00-XXX-14: Naturalisation Interview Notice Dated

00-XXX-14: Naturalisation Interview Notice Received

00-XXX-14: Naturalisation Interview Date

00-XXX-14: Online Status - Placed in-line for Naturalisation Oath Ceremony Scheduling

00-XXX-14: Online Status - Naturalisation Oath Ceremony Scheduled

00-XXX-14: Naturalisation Oath Ceremony Notice Dated

00-XXX-14: Naturalisation Oath Ceremony Notice Received

00-XXX-14: Naturalisation Oath Ceremony Date

00-XXX-14: US Passport Application Dispatched

00-XXX-14: US Passport Received

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Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: Ecuador
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Country of origin is the same as country as birth. Your right it says country of origin.

Even her green card says france. Now as per the cloths I never went to the oath test I'm a born usc. I normally wear holly jeans and a white t shirt... but my wife wants me to look decent so i didn't know if I should buy a suite or just nice pants and a nice shirt. I just wanted to dress nice because this event is important to my wife and my self.

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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Nicaragua
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Country of origin is the same as country as birth. Your right it says country of origin.

Even her green card says france. Now as per the cloths I never went to the oath test I'm a born usc. I normally wear holly jeans and a white t shirt... but my wife wants me to look decent so i didn't know if I should buy a suite or just nice pants and a nice shirt. I just wanted to dress nice because this event is important to my wife and my self.

My husband wore slacks and a nice black sweater. So nice slacks and a nice shirt should do it.

Filed: Citizen (pnd) Country: Laos
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Country of origin is the same as country as birth. Your right it says country of origin.

Even her green card says france. Now as per the cloths I never went to the oath test I'm a born usc. I normally wear holly jeans and a white t shirt... but my wife wants me to look decent so i didn't know if I should buy a suite or just nice pants and a nice shirt. I just wanted to dress nice because this event is important to my wife and my self.

Country of origin is not the same as country of birth.

As for the clothes to wear, I'm quite certain an adult such as yourself can eventually figure this out.

Panem today, Panem tomorrow, Panem forever...

I have neither legal training nor immigration expertise; all comments posted must therefore be consumed in that vein.

My Naturalisation Timeline (Last updated: 16-April-14)

29-MAR-14: N-400 Petition Dispatched to USCIS [t-2]

30-MAR-14: Eligible to File N-400 Petition [t-1]

31-MAR-14: N-400 Petition Received by USCIS [t=0]

31-MAR-14: I-797C (Notice of Action) Dated [t=0]

31-MAR-14: I-797C (Notice of Action) Priority Date [t=0]

04-APR-14: Payment cheque cashed by USCIS [t+4]

07-APR-14: Online Status - Biometrics Appointment Notice Dispatched [t+7]

07-APR-14: Biometrics Appointment Notice Dated [t+7]

08-APR-14: I-797C (Notice of Action) Received [t+8]

14-APR-14: Biometrics Appointment Notice Received [t+14]

01-MAY-14: Biometrics Appointment [t+31]

00-XXX-14: Online Status - Placed in-line for Naturalisation Interview Scheduling

00-XXX-14: Online Status - Naturalisation Interview Scheduled

00-XXX-14: Naturalisation Interview Notice Dated

00-XXX-14: Naturalisation Interview Notice Received

00-XXX-14: Naturalisation Interview Date

00-XXX-14: Online Status - Placed in-line for Naturalisation Oath Ceremony Scheduling

00-XXX-14: Online Status - Naturalisation Oath Ceremony Scheduled

00-XXX-14: Naturalisation Oath Ceremony Notice Dated

00-XXX-14: Naturalisation Oath Ceremony Notice Received

00-XXX-14: Naturalisation Oath Ceremony Date

00-XXX-14: US Passport Application Dispatched

00-XXX-14: US Passport Received

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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Venezuela
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Country of origin is the same as country as birth. Your right it says country of origin.

Even her green card says france. Now as per the cloths I never went to the oath test I'm a born usc. I normally wear holly jeans and a white t shirt... but my wife wants me to look decent so i didn't know if I should buy a suite or just nice pants and a nice shirt. I just wanted to dress nice because this event is important to my wife and my self.

If you're so worried about what to wear you can youtube "Citizenship Oath Ceremony 2014" and you will find a lot of videos showing what the oath ceremony is like and what people usually wear. CLICK HERE and you can watch one of the most recent videos I found on youtube. As you can see on the video, not everyone is wearing Suits and ties, I see people in Jeans and shirts. I personally dont plan on wearing fancy clothes, just anything I feel confortable in.

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Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: Ecuador
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That's true guys I'll just wear nice pants and a shirt. I seen a few different videos and the audience was in casual street clothes. Also from what I read the country of origin and country of birth are referred as the same when reading uscis naturalization stats. http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=9&ved=0CDYQFjAI&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.dhs.gov%2Fxlibrary%2Fassets%2Fstatistics%2Fpublications%2Fnatz_fr_2011.pdf&rct=j&q=country%20of%20origin%20uscis&ei=Dn1GU7j3JorKsQS0soGIBg&usg=AFQjCNHKj1E8k27ltwQwqyJmRsm3Gs5zng&bvm=bv.64507335,d.cWc

But regardless the info on her green card is the official country of origin but my wife seems to not mind. She's a proud eecuadorian but being born in France raised in ecuador now soon to me American really complicated things lol. Thanks for your help. I feel confident I know what to wear and cant wait till tomorrow.. It's going to be an early day.

Edited by Jeremy12095
Filed: Citizen (pnd) Country: Laos
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That's true guys I'll just wear nice pants and a shirt. I seen a few different videos and the audience was in casual street clothes. Also from what I read the country of origin and country of birth are referred as the same when reading uscis naturalization stats. http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=9&ved=0CDYQFjAI&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.dhs.gov%2Fxlibrary%2Fassets%2Fstatistics%2Fpublications%2Fnatz_fr_2011.pdf&rct=j&q=country%20of%20origin%20uscis&ei=Dn1GU7j3JorKsQS0soGIBg&usg=AFQjCNHKj1E8k27ltwQwqyJmRsm3Gs5zng&bvm=bv.64507335,d.cWc

But regardless the info on her green card is the official country of origin but my wife seems to not mind. She's a proud eecuadorian but being born in France raised in ecuador now soon to me American really complicated things lol. Thanks for your help. I feel confident I know what to wear and cant wait till tomorrow.. It's going to be an early day.

Apples and Oranges:

Apples: What you said was that your wife was concerned about being asked to rise at the Naturalisation Oath Ceremony and identify with France (her country of birth) while her country or origin, the one for which she feels more cultural affinity, is Ecuador. The Master of Ceremonies does not identify people by their countries of birth, that is false.

Oranges:The link you attached is not a procedural document about Naturalisation Oath Ceremonies (which was your cause for concern), but unrelated data-gathering for purposes of internal demographics studies within the USCIS and not intended for broad external consumption.

You do get the difference, right?

Panem today, Panem tomorrow, Panem forever...

I have neither legal training nor immigration expertise; all comments posted must therefore be consumed in that vein.

My Naturalisation Timeline (Last updated: 16-April-14)

29-MAR-14: N-400 Petition Dispatched to USCIS [t-2]

30-MAR-14: Eligible to File N-400 Petition [t-1]

31-MAR-14: N-400 Petition Received by USCIS [t=0]

31-MAR-14: I-797C (Notice of Action) Dated [t=0]

31-MAR-14: I-797C (Notice of Action) Priority Date [t=0]

04-APR-14: Payment cheque cashed by USCIS [t+4]

07-APR-14: Online Status - Biometrics Appointment Notice Dispatched [t+7]

07-APR-14: Biometrics Appointment Notice Dated [t+7]

08-APR-14: I-797C (Notice of Action) Received [t+8]

14-APR-14: Biometrics Appointment Notice Received [t+14]

01-MAY-14: Biometrics Appointment [t+31]

00-XXX-14: Online Status - Placed in-line for Naturalisation Interview Scheduling

00-XXX-14: Online Status - Naturalisation Interview Scheduled

00-XXX-14: Naturalisation Interview Notice Dated

00-XXX-14: Naturalisation Interview Notice Received

00-XXX-14: Naturalisation Interview Date

00-XXX-14: Online Status - Placed in-line for Naturalisation Oath Ceremony Scheduling

00-XXX-14: Online Status - Naturalisation Oath Ceremony Scheduled

00-XXX-14: Naturalisation Oath Ceremony Notice Dated

00-XXX-14: Naturalisation Oath Ceremony Notice Received

00-XXX-14: Naturalisation Oath Ceremony Date

00-XXX-14: US Passport Application Dispatched

00-XXX-14: US Passport Received

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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Canada
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It really is irrelevant what the citizen-to-be's guest wears and it doesn't affect anything if even the citizen-to-be wears jeans. Wear what you're comfortable in. If you'd like to have nice pictures together then wear nice clothes.

The whole stand up when they mention your country thing is just a cutesy move - nobody really cares where you're from..... its just a nice little representation to show the variety of countries represented that day.

Wiz(USC) and Udella(Cdn & USC!)

Naturalization

02/22/11 - Filed

02/28/11 - NOA

03/28/11 - FP

06/17/11 - status change - scheduled for interview

06/20?/11 - received physical interview letter

07/13/11 - Interview in Fairfax,VA - easiest 10 minutes of my life

07/19/11 - Oath ceremony in Fairfax, VA

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Removal of Conditions

12/1/09 - received at VSC

12/2/09 - NOA's for self and daughter

01/12/10 - Biometrics completed

03/15/10 - 10 Green Card Received - self and daughter

******************

Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: Ecuador
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I understand what your saying. I guess we will find out tomorrow...

I did a simple google search for "Country of Origin" and was pointed to http://www.thefreedictionary.com/country+of+origin

Noun 1. country of origin - the country where you were born
country, land, state - the territory occupied by a nation; "he returned to the land of his birth"; "he visited several European countries"
old country - the country of origin of an immigrant

But I guess we will see tomorrow. Cant believe it only took a few months to process.. Thanks for the help everyone.

Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Finland
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This is a decision you want to make; most people I saw yesterday in Los Angeles were somewhat dressed up and the atmosphere was excited and happy. All the guests for the applicants were there to cheer and make sure that the applicant's day was special. Some people were dressed in jeans but most were in dressier clothes and it's just what you feel makes for a truly special day, because that's what it is. People usually dress up for special occasions and I think it's appropriate to so so. Your wife is becoming a citizen of United States so make it special for both of you! A little effort makes for big rewards and shows that you care.

CITIZENSHIP:
Eligibility Criteria: 5 years
xx-xx-1998: Eligibility Date
11-12-2013: Application Sent
11-19-2013: NOA Date
11-19-2013: Check/Money Order Cashed
11-22-2013: Bio-metric Letter sent Date
12-05-2013: Bio-metric Date
01-10-2014: In-line for Interview
02-06-2014: Interview Letter Received
03-12-2014: Interview Date

03-21-2014: In Oath Scheduling Que

03-24-2014: Oath Scheduled Notice Mailed

04-09-2014: Oath Ceremony

Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: Ecuador
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This is a decision you want to make; most people I saw yesterday in Los Angeles were somewhat dressed up and the atmosphere was excited and happy. All the guests for the applicants were there to cheer and make sure that the applicant's day was special. Some people were dressed in jeans but most were in dressier clothes and it's just what you feel makes for a truly special day, because that's what it is. People usually dress up for special occasions and I think it's appropriate to so so. Your wife is becoming a citizen of United States so make it special for both of you! A little effort makes for big rewards and shows that you care.

True that! Thanks :)

Filed: Citizen (pnd) Country: Laos
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I live in Miami so will probably attend my Naturalisation Oath Ceremony in turquoise flip-flops, beach shorts and a matching wife-beater, but hey, everyone's different. If you really can't make up your mind (this is, after all, a very complicated decision), you can always follow my lead. Just think how much more relaxed you'd feel in those comfortable clothes.


Panem today, Panem tomorrow, Panem forever...

I have neither legal training nor immigration expertise; all comments posted must therefore be consumed in that vein.

My Naturalisation Timeline (Last updated: 16-April-14)

29-MAR-14: N-400 Petition Dispatched to USCIS [t-2]

30-MAR-14: Eligible to File N-400 Petition [t-1]

31-MAR-14: N-400 Petition Received by USCIS [t=0]

31-MAR-14: I-797C (Notice of Action) Dated [t=0]

31-MAR-14: I-797C (Notice of Action) Priority Date [t=0]

04-APR-14: Payment cheque cashed by USCIS [t+4]

07-APR-14: Online Status - Biometrics Appointment Notice Dispatched [t+7]

07-APR-14: Biometrics Appointment Notice Dated [t+7]

08-APR-14: I-797C (Notice of Action) Received [t+8]

14-APR-14: Biometrics Appointment Notice Received [t+14]

01-MAY-14: Biometrics Appointment [t+31]

00-XXX-14: Online Status - Placed in-line for Naturalisation Interview Scheduling

00-XXX-14: Online Status - Naturalisation Interview Scheduled

00-XXX-14: Naturalisation Interview Notice Dated

00-XXX-14: Naturalisation Interview Notice Received

00-XXX-14: Naturalisation Interview Date

00-XXX-14: Online Status - Placed in-line for Naturalisation Oath Ceremony Scheduling

00-XXX-14: Online Status - Naturalisation Oath Ceremony Scheduled

00-XXX-14: Naturalisation Oath Ceremony Notice Dated

00-XXX-14: Naturalisation Oath Ceremony Notice Received

00-XXX-14: Naturalisation Oath Ceremony Date

00-XXX-14: US Passport Application Dispatched

00-XXX-14: US Passport Received

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Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: Ecuador
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I live in Miami so will probably attend my Naturalisation Oath Ceremony in turquoise flip-flops, beach shorts and a matching wife-beater, but hey, everyone's different. If you really can't make up your mind (this is, after all, a very complicated decision), you can always follow my lead. Just think how much more relaxed you'd feel in those comfortable clothes.

I envy you! I would cut off my right arm to live in Miami! I am all set on the clothes to wear now. Just going to get some dress pants and a nice button up. After all this is my wife's day and I want to look decent for her. Thanks everyone for the information and well tomorrow cant come soon enough...

 
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