Jump to content

25 posts in this topic

Recommended Posts

Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Norway
Timeline

I'm from Norway and my fiance is American, we want to get married in America and then apply for the CR1 Visa. But how do we get married if it's illegal to get married while I'm on the Visa waiver program? How do we marry legally in the United States, without going through the K1 (fiance) visa process? We want to apply for the CR1 Visa because we have heard it's faster and cheaper. I appreciate all answers :)


I forgot to say that to apply for the CR1 (Spouse) Visa, you have to be married (right), but how do we get married if it's illegal to get married while on the Visa waiver program.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

I'm from Norway and my fiance is American, we want to get married in America and then apply for the CR1 Visa. But how do we get married if it's illegal to get married while I'm on the Visa waiver program? How do we marry legally in the United States, without going through the K1 (fiance) visa process? We want to apply for the CR1 Visa because we have heard it's faster and cheaper. I appreciate all answers smile.png

I forgot to say that to apply for the CR1 (Spouse) Visa, you have to be married (right), but how do we get married if it's illegal to get married while on the Visa waiver program.

It's entirely legal to marry in the USA whenever you like, however you like (including on VWP). People get married all the time in the States, who are from abroad, but the clincher is that they go home after the marriage before their tourist visa expires. What's not legal is marrying on a tourist visa with the intent to not go home when your tourist visa expires.

If you want to marry in the USA, do so, but then you should return to Norway and follow this guide to file for your I-130 petition and then CR-1 visa: http://www.visajourney.com/content/i130guide1

The reason people do the K1 is it is a legal means for someone to marry in the US and then also adjust their status to immigrant without leaving the country.

Edited by lost_at_sea

* I-130/CR-1 visa by Direct Consular Filing in London
3rd May 2013 - Married in London

7th May 2013 - I-130 filed
4th June 2013 - NOA2 (approved)
16th July 2013 - Interview (approved)
30th July 2013 - POE San Francisco
29th August 2013 - 2 year green card arrived

 

* How? Read my DCF London I-130 for CR1/IR1 Spouse Guide

* Removal of Conditions (RoC) via California Service Centre
1st May 2015 - 90 day RoC window opened
6th May 2015 - I-751 filed (delivered 8th May, cheque cashed 18th May)
7th August 2015 - Approved / GC production

27th August 2015 - 10 year green card arrived

* Naturalisation (Citizenship) via Phoenix Lockbox

* San Francisco Field Office:
1st May 2016 - N-400 window opened
20th August 2016 - N-400 filed

26th August 2016 - NOA1
13th September 2016 - Biometrics

12th January 2017 - Biometrics (again)
30th May 2017 - Interview (approved)
7th June 2017 - Oath

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Norway
Timeline

It's entirely legal to marry in the USA whenever you like, however you like. What's not legal is marrying on a tourist visa with the intent to not go home when your tourist visa expires.

If you want to marry in the USA, do so, but then you should return to Norway and follow this guide to file for your I-130 petition and then CR-1 visa: http://www.visajourney.com/content/i130guide1

The reason people do the K1 is it is a legal means for someone to marry in the US and then also adjust their status to immigrant without leaving the country.

Thank you so much for your answer! Of course I am gonna leave when my tourist visa expires, that's always been the plan, and I would never overstay the 3 months. For some reason I thought it was illegal to get married at all, not only if you have no intention of going home. So if we get married while I'm on my tourist visa, I go home after 3 months, stay home for a bit, can I get back and then we start the process of applying for the CR1 Visa?

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Thank you so much for your answer! Of course I am gonna leave when my tourist visa expires, that's always been the plan, and I would never overstay the 3 months. For some reason I thought it was illegal to get married at all, not only if you have no intention of going home. So if we get married while I'm on my tourist visa, I go home after 3 months, stay home for a bit, can I get back and then we start the process of applying for the CR1 Visa?

Yep! You can start the process the very day after you're married if you want. Your new husband (exciting! congrats!) sends off the first part (the I-130 package, noted in the guide link above) and that's the first step. So long as you are home before your tourist visa expires, that's fine.

What I would say, though, is on your way into the US for your wedding trip that you carry some documentation with you to show that you're going home after the marriage - they can be suspicious and may deny your entry if they don't believe you're going to go home again - return flight details, evidence to ties back home (like a rental agreement, job etc.) - that sort of thing.

* I-130/CR-1 visa by Direct Consular Filing in London
3rd May 2013 - Married in London

7th May 2013 - I-130 filed
4th June 2013 - NOA2 (approved)
16th July 2013 - Interview (approved)
30th July 2013 - POE San Francisco
29th August 2013 - 2 year green card arrived

 

* How? Read my DCF London I-130 for CR1/IR1 Spouse Guide

* Removal of Conditions (RoC) via California Service Centre
1st May 2015 - 90 day RoC window opened
6th May 2015 - I-751 filed (delivered 8th May, cheque cashed 18th May)
7th August 2015 - Approved / GC production

27th August 2015 - 10 year green card arrived

* Naturalisation (Citizenship) via Phoenix Lockbox

* San Francisco Field Office:
1st May 2016 - N-400 window opened
20th August 2016 - N-400 filed

26th August 2016 - NOA1
13th September 2016 - Biometrics

12th January 2017 - Biometrics (again)
30th May 2017 - Interview (approved)
7th June 2017 - Oath

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Filed: Country: Poland
Timeline

You may also research what documents you will need to apply for a marriage license.

Licenses are issued by county clerks and if your fiance is from LV, here is the link pertaining to Clark County, NV:

http://www.clarkcountynv.gov/depts/clerk/services/pages/marriagelicenses.aspx

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Norway
Timeline

Yep! You can start the process the very day after you're married if you want. Your new husband (exciting! congrats!) sends off the first part (the I-130 package, noted in the guide link above) and that's the first step. So long as you are home before your tourist visa expires, that's fine.

What I would say, though, is on your way into the US for your wedding trip that you carry some documentation with you to show that you're going home after the marriage - they can be suspicious and may deny your entry if they don't believe you're going to go home again - return flight details, evidence to ties back home (like a rental agreement, job etc.) - that sort of thing.

Thank you so much for taking the time to write me back, feels so good that finally somebody are able to answer my questions :)

I will definitley keep that in mind, and bring documentation to prove that I am going back home.

There's one more thing I am wondering about, after we have gotten married, and I've been back home, I'm gonna go back there again, after the CR1 application has been sent, can I stay there until the application has been approved? How do I prove that?

You may also research what documents you will need to apply for a marriage license.

Licenses are issued by county clerks and if your fiance is from LV, here is the link pertaining to Clark County, NV:

http://www.clarkcountynv.gov/depts/clerk/services/pages/marriagelicenses.aspx

Thank you so much :) I was just about to ask that! Yes, he lives in LV.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

It's entirely legal to marry in the USA whenever you like, however you like (including on VWP). People get married all the time in the States, who are from abroad, but the clincher is that they go home after the marriage before their tourist visa expires. What's not legal is marrying on a tourist visa with the intent to not go home when your tourist visa expires.

If you want to marry in the USA, do so, but then you should return to Norway and follow this guide to file for your I-130 petition and then CR-1 visa: http://www.visajourney.com/content/i130guide1

The reason people do the K1 is it is a legal means for someone to marry in the US and then also adjust their status to immigrant without leaving the country.

Wouldn't have said it any differently. good.gif

FILE FOR K-1 Adjustment of Status Removal of Conditions

January 31.2010 - Met Online April 10, 2014 - Mailed in I-485 + I-765 March 19, 2016 - Mailed I-751 to CSC

February 20, 2011 - Met in Person April 14, 2014 - Forms arrived at Chicago Lockbox March 23, 2016 - I-751 arrived at CSC

July 28, 2012 - Engaged April 17, 2014 - Acceptance email arrived stating case forwarded to NBC March 23, 2016 - NOA1 Date (received March 28)

February 5, 2013 - Mailed I-129F to Lewisville, TX April 27, 2014 - Received letter for Biometrics appointment April 20, 2016 - Biometrics scheduled (incomplete due to dry cracked skin)

February 6, 2013 - USPS Receipt/Delivered I-129F April 28, 2014 - Received Acceptance NOA1 hard copies for AOS and EAD May 13, 2016 - Walk in Biometrics Completed

February 8, 2013 - NOA1 Notice Date May 12, 2014 - Biometrics Appointment Done September 27, 2016 - ROC Approved (Checked status via website w/receipt #)

February 11, 2013 - Bank shows check cashed today May 15, 2014 - Interview Schedule Letter (received May 17, 2014) October 6, 2016 - Card Arrived

February 11, 2013 - E-Mail Notification of Case Acceptance and June 5, 2014 - Interview Scheduled at Local office 8:15 a.m.

Case Number (Routed to California Service Center) June 11, 2014 - USCIS Status updated to show Greencard in the mail

February 12, 2013 - E Mail Notification of Alien Registration Number Change w/USPS tracking showing it scheduled to arrive

February 15, 2013 - Hard Copy NOA1 received June 14, 2014

June 5, 2013 - Email notice of RFE June 13, 2014 - GreenCard arrived

June 6, 2013 - RFE postmarked

June 10, 2013 - RFE arrived in the mail

June 11, 2013 - RFE mailed back Express USPS

June 12, 2013 - RFE received @ CSC / USCIS website updated to reflect this

June 20, 2013 - I-129F Approved

June 24, 2013 - NOA2 Hard Copy Received

June 28, 2013 - NVC Assigned Case Number

July 2, 2013 - NVC shipped case to London

July 9, 2013 - London Received Case File

July 13, 2013 - Packet 3 Instructions Received

July 17, 2013 - Packet 3 Forms Mailed (Except DS-2001)

July 30, 2013 - DS-2001 sent (arrived July 31)

July 30, 2013 - Medical Scheduled (and completed w/no issues)

August 5th - Medical Results Logged in

August 8th - DS-2001 Logged in

August 20, 2013 - Interview Date Set

September 17, 2013 - Interview at 8:00 a.m. (APPROVED)

Waiting for VISA...

September 25, 2013 - Visa Delivered

October 8, 2013 - POE Las Vegas, NV

October 11, 2013 - Married

October 13th - HOME

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Thank you so much for taking the time to write me back, feels so good that finally somebody are able to answer my questions smile.png

I will definitley keep that in mind, and bring documentation to prove that I am going back home.

There's one more thing I am wondering about, after we have gotten married, and I've been back home, I'm gonna go back there again, after the CR1 application has been sent, can I stay there until the application has been approved? How do I prove that?

No - you don't get any special favours just because you're in a visa process. If you want to go and visit, that's cool, but it'll still be under the VWP so all the same principles apply.

Read the guides and get an idea of all the steps involved. Once you're married, your husband is going to file the I-130 for you - it's going to take a few months for that to get approved. At current rates, think 5 - 7 months. Once that is approved, USCIS via the NVC will send paperwork to your local consulate in Norway where you'll be invited to apply for the actual CR-1 visa - that'll take another 2 - 5 months (you'll have to attend a medical and an interview at this stage, both in Norway). The process is long! So you'll be able to keep visiting back and forth (so long as you do so within the terms of the tourist visa) but you won't be able to stay until the I-130 and CR-1 processes are completed.

Edited by lost_at_sea

* I-130/CR-1 visa by Direct Consular Filing in London
3rd May 2013 - Married in London

7th May 2013 - I-130 filed
4th June 2013 - NOA2 (approved)
16th July 2013 - Interview (approved)
30th July 2013 - POE San Francisco
29th August 2013 - 2 year green card arrived

 

* How? Read my DCF London I-130 for CR1/IR1 Spouse Guide

* Removal of Conditions (RoC) via California Service Centre
1st May 2015 - 90 day RoC window opened
6th May 2015 - I-751 filed (delivered 8th May, cheque cashed 18th May)
7th August 2015 - Approved / GC production

27th August 2015 - 10 year green card arrived

* Naturalisation (Citizenship) via Phoenix Lockbox

* San Francisco Field Office:
1st May 2016 - N-400 window opened
20th August 2016 - N-400 filed

26th August 2016 - NOA1
13th September 2016 - Biometrics

12th January 2017 - Biometrics (again)
30th May 2017 - Interview (approved)
7th June 2017 - Oath

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Thank you so much for your answer! Of course I am gonna leave when my tourist visa expires, that's always been the plan, and I would never overstay the 3 months. For some reason I thought it was illegal to get married at all, not only if you have no intention of going home. So if we get married while I'm on my tourist visa, I go home after 3 months, stay home for a bit, can I get back and then we start the process of applying for the CR1 Visa?

You will have to be in your home country to go through the interview process. You should be able to enter for visits on the VWP if you have strong enough ties showing you will go home, but a part of the process is that you be interviewed at the embassy of your home country, so you will have to be back there for this, and not in this country. Basically you can visit, but you can't live here while waiting for your visa. Hope that made sense

FILE FOR K-1 Adjustment of Status Removal of Conditions

January 31.2010 - Met Online April 10, 2014 - Mailed in I-485 + I-765 March 19, 2016 - Mailed I-751 to CSC

February 20, 2011 - Met in Person April 14, 2014 - Forms arrived at Chicago Lockbox March 23, 2016 - I-751 arrived at CSC

July 28, 2012 - Engaged April 17, 2014 - Acceptance email arrived stating case forwarded to NBC March 23, 2016 - NOA1 Date (received March 28)

February 5, 2013 - Mailed I-129F to Lewisville, TX April 27, 2014 - Received letter for Biometrics appointment April 20, 2016 - Biometrics scheduled (incomplete due to dry cracked skin)

February 6, 2013 - USPS Receipt/Delivered I-129F April 28, 2014 - Received Acceptance NOA1 hard copies for AOS and EAD May 13, 2016 - Walk in Biometrics Completed

February 8, 2013 - NOA1 Notice Date May 12, 2014 - Biometrics Appointment Done September 27, 2016 - ROC Approved (Checked status via website w/receipt #)

February 11, 2013 - Bank shows check cashed today May 15, 2014 - Interview Schedule Letter (received May 17, 2014) October 6, 2016 - Card Arrived

February 11, 2013 - E-Mail Notification of Case Acceptance and June 5, 2014 - Interview Scheduled at Local office 8:15 a.m.

Case Number (Routed to California Service Center) June 11, 2014 - USCIS Status updated to show Greencard in the mail

February 12, 2013 - E Mail Notification of Alien Registration Number Change w/USPS tracking showing it scheduled to arrive

February 15, 2013 - Hard Copy NOA1 received June 14, 2014

June 5, 2013 - Email notice of RFE June 13, 2014 - GreenCard arrived

June 6, 2013 - RFE postmarked

June 10, 2013 - RFE arrived in the mail

June 11, 2013 - RFE mailed back Express USPS

June 12, 2013 - RFE received @ CSC / USCIS website updated to reflect this

June 20, 2013 - I-129F Approved

June 24, 2013 - NOA2 Hard Copy Received

June 28, 2013 - NVC Assigned Case Number

July 2, 2013 - NVC shipped case to London

July 9, 2013 - London Received Case File

July 13, 2013 - Packet 3 Instructions Received

July 17, 2013 - Packet 3 Forms Mailed (Except DS-2001)

July 30, 2013 - DS-2001 sent (arrived July 31)

July 30, 2013 - Medical Scheduled (and completed w/no issues)

August 5th - Medical Results Logged in

August 8th - DS-2001 Logged in

August 20, 2013 - Interview Date Set

September 17, 2013 - Interview at 8:00 a.m. (APPROVED)

Waiting for VISA...

September 25, 2013 - Visa Delivered

October 8, 2013 - POE Las Vegas, NV

October 11, 2013 - Married

October 13th - HOME

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Norway
Timeline

You will have to be in your home country to go through the interview process. You should be able to enter for visits on the VWP if you have strong enough ties showing you will go home, but a part of the process is that you be interviewed at the embassy of your home country, so you will have to be back there for this, and not in this country. Basically you can visit, but you can't live here while waiting for your visa. Hope that made sense

It made a lot of sense, thank you :) I was hoping it would be possible to do the interview in America, because unfortunatley the American embassy in Norway doesn't do immigrant visas (only non immigrant visas), so I will have to go to Stocholm, Sweden then, which is rather far from where I currently live.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: China
Timeline

I'm from Norway and my fiance is American, we want to get married in America and then apply for the CR1 Visa. But how do we get married if it's illegal to get married while I'm on the Visa waiver program?

It's not illegal to get married in the USA whilst IN the USA on the VWP, at all.

Sometimes my language usage seems confusing - please feel free to 'read it twice', just in case !
Ya know, you can find the answer to your question with the advanced search tool, when using a PC? Ditch the handphone, come back later on a PC, and try again.

-=-=-=-=-=R E A D ! ! !=-=-=-=-=-

Whoa Nelly ! Want NVC Info? see http://www.visajourney.com/wiki/index.php/NVC_Process

Congratulations on your approval ! We All Applaud your accomplishment with Most Wonderful Kissies !

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Norway
Timeline

It's not illegal to get married in the USA whilst IN the USA on the VWP, at all.

I know that now, but for some reason I always thought it was illegal, and that you could get deported. But I'm glad that wasn't true! And I have no intentions of overstaying my VWP.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

It made a lot of sense, thank you smile.png I was hoping it would be possible to do the interview in America, because unfortunatley the American embassy in Norway doesn't do immigrant visas (only non immigrant visas), so I will have to go to Stocholm, Sweden then, which is rather far from where I currently live.

If your wedding plans aren't already locked in and paid for, you could look into the fiance visa (K-1) it works in a similar fashion to the spousal visa, but you don't get married until you come over here. It is considered a non immigrant visa and may get you an interview closer to where you live and be a little less hassle.

I have no idea if this is even feasible for your personal situation, but thought I'd mention it in case you hadn't considered it yet

FILE FOR K-1 Adjustment of Status Removal of Conditions

January 31.2010 - Met Online April 10, 2014 - Mailed in I-485 + I-765 March 19, 2016 - Mailed I-751 to CSC

February 20, 2011 - Met in Person April 14, 2014 - Forms arrived at Chicago Lockbox March 23, 2016 - I-751 arrived at CSC

July 28, 2012 - Engaged April 17, 2014 - Acceptance email arrived stating case forwarded to NBC March 23, 2016 - NOA1 Date (received March 28)

February 5, 2013 - Mailed I-129F to Lewisville, TX April 27, 2014 - Received letter for Biometrics appointment April 20, 2016 - Biometrics scheduled (incomplete due to dry cracked skin)

February 6, 2013 - USPS Receipt/Delivered I-129F April 28, 2014 - Received Acceptance NOA1 hard copies for AOS and EAD May 13, 2016 - Walk in Biometrics Completed

February 8, 2013 - NOA1 Notice Date May 12, 2014 - Biometrics Appointment Done September 27, 2016 - ROC Approved (Checked status via website w/receipt #)

February 11, 2013 - Bank shows check cashed today May 15, 2014 - Interview Schedule Letter (received May 17, 2014) October 6, 2016 - Card Arrived

February 11, 2013 - E-Mail Notification of Case Acceptance and June 5, 2014 - Interview Scheduled at Local office 8:15 a.m.

Case Number (Routed to California Service Center) June 11, 2014 - USCIS Status updated to show Greencard in the mail

February 12, 2013 - E Mail Notification of Alien Registration Number Change w/USPS tracking showing it scheduled to arrive

February 15, 2013 - Hard Copy NOA1 received June 14, 2014

June 5, 2013 - Email notice of RFE June 13, 2014 - GreenCard arrived

June 6, 2013 - RFE postmarked

June 10, 2013 - RFE arrived in the mail

June 11, 2013 - RFE mailed back Express USPS

June 12, 2013 - RFE received @ CSC / USCIS website updated to reflect this

June 20, 2013 - I-129F Approved

June 24, 2013 - NOA2 Hard Copy Received

June 28, 2013 - NVC Assigned Case Number

July 2, 2013 - NVC shipped case to London

July 9, 2013 - London Received Case File

July 13, 2013 - Packet 3 Instructions Received

July 17, 2013 - Packet 3 Forms Mailed (Except DS-2001)

July 30, 2013 - DS-2001 sent (arrived July 31)

July 30, 2013 - Medical Scheduled (and completed w/no issues)

August 5th - Medical Results Logged in

August 8th - DS-2001 Logged in

August 20, 2013 - Interview Date Set

September 17, 2013 - Interview at 8:00 a.m. (APPROVED)

Waiting for VISA...

September 25, 2013 - Visa Delivered

October 8, 2013 - POE Las Vegas, NV

October 11, 2013 - Married

October 13th - HOME

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Norway
Timeline

If your wedding plans aren't already locked in and paid for, you could look into the fiance visa (K-1) it works in a similar fashion to the spousal visa, but you don't get married until you come over here. It is considered a non immigrant visa and may get you an interview closer to where you live and be a little less hassle.

I have no idea if this is even feasible for your personal situation, but thought I'd mention it in case you hadn't considered it yet

We were thinking about it at first, but we have heard that it's better to do the CR1- Visa (cheaper and takes less time).

The embassy in Oslo only do interviews for the following:

  • students (F or M visas)
  • exchange program participants (J visas)
  • work petition beneficiaries (H, L, or P visas) who need to report to a U.S. educational institution or employer by a certain date, and
  • medical emergencies

So I guess I will have to go to Sweden no matter what Visa we apply for.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

 
Didn't find the answer you were looking for? Ask our VJ Immigration Lawyers.

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now
- Back to Top -

Important Disclaimer: Please read carefully the Visajourney.com Terms of Service. If you do not agree to the Terms of Service you should not access or view any page (including this page) on VisaJourney.com. Answers and comments provided on Visajourney.com Forums are general information, and are not intended to substitute for informed professional medical, psychiatric, psychological, tax, legal, investment, accounting, or other professional advice. Visajourney.com does not endorse, and expressly disclaims liability for any product, manufacturer, distributor, service or service provider mentioned or any opinion expressed in answers or comments. VisaJourney.com does not condone immigration fraud in any way, shape or manner. VisaJourney.com recommends that if any member or user knows directly of someone involved in fraudulent or illegal activity, that they report such activity directly to the Department of Homeland Security, Immigration and Customs Enforcement. You can contact ICE via email at Immigration.Reply@dhs.gov or you can telephone ICE at 1-866-347-2423. All reported threads/posts containing reference to immigration fraud or illegal activities will be removed from this board. If you feel that you have found inappropriate content, please let us know by contacting us here with a url link to that content. Thank you.
×
×
  • Create New...