MENA BICKERING

[almaty 19]

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aw, the best forum for drama at vj

[Veiled Princess 1]

i'm really not interested in fighting with you lisa, so i'll just let this pass by. you're right, as always.

You are going to make a wonderful husband. This is what all hubbies should say to their wives to end all arguments!!! Just take out the Lisa and add in name of wife.

I agree.... IF he wants a black eye

[almaty 19]

damn, can't my brother charles get any love on this thread?

[Veiled Princess 1]

God bless you!

And you!

[Ban Hammer 12,868]

damn, can't my brother charles get any love on this thread?

surprisingly, i got some love from jenn. must be a blue moon

[tmma 467]

But Sarah said clearly that FOR HER that idea was "gross" or whatever.... She did not say " hey xyz YOUR relationship is gross". I think that maybe people took Sarah's opinion on what her preferences are and personalized it to apply directly to them ( thus taking offense) instead of accepting it for what it was....an opinion of what she thought was right FOR HER.... Not others.

of course, since it can't be applied to you in any way, that could be why you fail to be offended.

now what if i said something about us-dutch relationships, from my own perspective? i bet you'd be offended then! and rightly so too.

do try on these shoes i'm wearing

I'll take that bet!!!!!!!

Charles ( or anyone here)-Say what you like about Dutch-American relationships or any aspect of my relationship-because as I said before-you and everyone else's opinion on this forum does not carry enough weight with me to "offend"...heard worse from far bigger and better versed than anyone here. Letting someone's opinion ( anon over the internet, no less) bother you so much ( especially about something so personal as your relationships) is crediting them with way too much value in your life...IMO ( of course).

[Sofiyya 1,687]

damn, can't my brother charles get any love on this thread?

I gave him some

Edited November 1, 2006 by szsz

[Veiled Princess 1]

damn, can't my brother charles get any love on this thread?

brother dean I am just trying to lighten the mood

damn, can't my brother charles get any love on this thread?

I gave him some

That is just wrong on so many levels

[Ban Hammer 12,868]

I'll take that bet!!!!!!!

Charles ( or anyone here)-Say what you like about Dutch-American relationships or any aspect of my relationship-because as I said before-you and everyone else's opinion on this forum does not carry enough weight with me to "offend"...heard worse from far bigger and better versed than anyone here. Letting someone's opinion ( anon over the internet, no less) bother you so much ( especially about something so personal as your relationships) is crediting them with way too much value in your life...IMO ( of course).

i'm sure you would, so i could be reported

Make comments in a Post either direct or implied toward another member that are purposely designed to upset, antagonize, make fun of, belittle, or otherwise instigate an argument that takes away from the personal enjoyment of the Service by other users.

ah i love it, i can't win being politically incorrect, nor politically correct. so when did i wind up on you and lisa'####### list?

[Traviesa 0]

damn, can't my brother charles get any love on this thread?

Well, I wonder how Charles likes it now, being on the receiving end; him being previously so quick to jump on that bandwagon. How does it feel Charles? When you're the one being jumped on now...

[Sofiyya 1,687]

But Sarah said clearly that FOR HER that idea was "gross" or whatever.... She did not say " hey xyz YOUR relationship is gross". I think that maybe people took Sarah's opinion on what her preferences are and personalized it to apply directly to them ( thus taking offense) instead of accepting it for what it was....an opinion of what she thought was right FOR HER.... Not others.

of course, since it can't be applied to you in any way, that could be why you fail to be offended.

now what if i said something about us-dutch relationships, from my own perspective? i bet you'd be offended then! and rightly so too.

do try on these shoes i'm wearing

I'll take that bet!!!!!!!

Charles ( or anyone here)-Say what you like about Dutch-American relationships or any aspect of my relationship-because as I said before-you and everyone else's opinion on this forum does not carry enough weight with me to "offend"...heard worse from far bigger and better versed than anyone here. Letting someone's opinion ( anon over the internet, no less) bother you so much ( especially about something so personal as your relationships) is crediting them with way too much value in your life...IMO ( of course).

What you don't know is that it wasn't just Sarah that piled on the disrespect; she was merely the catalyst. There were plenty others who defended and echoed her sentiments. That's what got me going. No one is asking for age different relationships to be accepted as the norm, but to be promoted as something that it is ok to demean is beyond acceptable, and that is what has been asked of us, that we sit back and take it.

Just as some say who cares what others think of you, you're right. I don't care what they think, but I do care what they say because we ALL share words around here and if the words get nasty for some who have been deemed the less valued members, then it lowers the value for all.

Edited November 1, 2006 by szsz

[Traviesa 0]

so when did i wind up on you and lisa'####### list?

It was only a matter of time, Charles, before it was your turn. Hope you enjoyed your time in the "me too" club-I certainly did. Had some of the best laughs at other people's expenses, not so much fun when it's turned on you, huh?

[Ban Hammer 12,868]

damn, can't my brother charles get any love on this thread?

Well, I wonder how Charles likes it now, being on the receiving end; him being previously so quick to jump on that bandwagon. How does it feel Charles? When you're the one being jumped on now...

i've been there before, if you didn't get to see that

so when did i wind up on you and lisa'####### list?

It was only a matter of time, Charles, before it was your turn. Hope you enjoyed your time in the "me too" club-I certainly did. Had some of the best laughs at other people's expenses, not so much fun when it's turned on you, huh?

kinda like a rite of passage on vj, isn't it?

[AnaAndDaniel 0]

peace be upon all of you.

Daniel

:energetic:

[Fandango 1,439]

i don't believe anyone here makes the choice in a SO to please someone else, do they? it's to make themself happy and certainly not you.

if you believe this, then why does Sarah's comment upset you?

the comment above was in regards to her mother picking someone younger, and given that, there is no need for a person need to make comments about who a person chooses.

you're hardly one to not take offense about things, lisa. it seems you've taken offense with just about everyone on this board at one time or another, including me. one day we hear you remark negatively about the snowflakes, gumdrops and unicorn brigade and now i'm hearing i should not be offended when someone makes a comment which directly includes my relationship with nessa as being "gross" and 'abnormal" due to her and my age difference. i'm certain that such a remark, if floated in certain regional rooms, would generate an uproar.

Im asking you why you're offended when you have clearly stated that your happiness depends soley on you and Nessa and is not motivated by pleasing others....therefore others' opinions, following YOUR train of thought, shouldn't matter.

Maybe everyone on this board has taken offense to me, but deffo not the other way round. I don't see how you're recreating history, Charles. Yes, it's true that I was offended by your Christ crucifixion smiley, and I asked you to remove it....I didn't go on a board and say how nothing matters but what I think, then take offense in the same post.

ah glad you brought that up. let's revisit that shall we? i had a smiley crucifix for an avatar. you were offended by it. i find it most humorous that you were offended by it and pm'ed me asking that i remove it, yet i'm not supposed to be offended by sarah characterizing age differences between couples like she did? are you the only one who can be offended here? or is it only ok to be offended by smileys and not someone making remarks about a person's relationship?

Exactly Charles, so stop worrying about Sarah's comments as they have nothing to do with yours and Nessa's happiness.

so why are you worrying about my comments now? am i just your designated flavor of the day to bicker with?

I would disagree with you completely. I didn't take offense when someone made fun of my being temporarily in a wheelchair, or my surgery, I didn't take offense when ppl call me a biotch because I say what's on my mind. I was actually quite amenable and understanding with a lot of things....you remember to what I refer to right now, don't you????? I don't take offense to most things...I DID take offense to your av cos I simply found it to be blashphemous, and short of putting you on ignore (which I didn't want to do) I really couldn't bear looking at it. No, you didn't have to remove it, and if you hadn't wanted to, I would have made another arrangement so that I didn't have to look at it. So I thank you for being gracious enough to do so.

But what I didn't do was make a whole full out hoo-ha, take the pizz with polls and posts, then claim the high road days later.

I'm not saying you don't have a RIGHT to be offended, but rather pointing out to you the flaw in the argument....you say in one breath all that matters is you and Nessa...which btw, I totally agree with & feel it's the most well rounded & level headed way to believe....but then you get all upset because some person you don't know says something you don't agree with.

By the by, the whole 'why are you worrying about my comments now?' doesn't really hold water as the same could be said to ANYONE on here who responds to another. I could ask the same of you, Charles. But more importantly is the fact that I am not 'bickering' with you...well at least that's not how this started. You are obviously more sensitive today, perhaps even touchy, and you immediately responded to me with a threat about Steven, and how you didn't want to argue. Well I wasn't intending on arguing either.

Can people not have a discussion where they disagree but it doesn't degenerate into a full out war? I mean really.