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I didn't forget anything. I linked the article, your read it. Notice, however, that she didn't support this conclusion, but she did raise some very interesting questions...... which you completely avoided yet again. FAIL 2

You might like to see yourself as the judge but trust me, you're not. Read the blog and you will see that she does support this conclusion. She actually took other possible explanations and considered them. None made sense - she pointed out why they did not make sense. This is why she arrived at the conclusion that I posted earlier. For clarity - you still seem to lack it - I re-post it here again:

Nevertheless, I believe the most likely answer is that "born in Kenya" was a mistake, made by some literary agency underling, in a brochure that never inspired close reading, even as the years passed.

"I" in the above quoted would be Ann Althouse. And according to you, Ann Althouse doesn't support what Ann Althouse believes. Yeah, talk about FAIL. :lol:

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Only to those that have no clue as to why that was placed in the Constitution or those that have little regard for the country and the Constitution. Which one applies to you?

I really don't care about the Constitution of a foreign country. :wacko: Go figure.

Come on, why was it placed? Constitutions change, they aren't the Holy Bible, enlighten me how the three century old criterion still aplies nowadays.


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So unravel it for me. Why is this the most obvious, given that I've shown you that Obama would have been required to submit his own biographical data?

There's nothing to unravel. And you have not shown that Obama was required to submit his place of birth. You might think that you've shown that but clearly, you have not.

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Only to those that have no clue as to why that was placed in the Constitution or those that have little regard for the country and the Constitution. Which one applies to you?

Well, to be fair, Peter_Pan isn't from this country and has never been to this country, so that would seem to be a pretty good reason to not know about the natural born citizen clause.

 

 

 

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You might like to see yourself as the judge but trust me, you're not. Read the blog and you will see that she does support this conclusion. She actually took other possible explanations and considered them. None made sense - she pointed out why they did not make sense. This is why she arrived at the conclusion that I posted earlier. For clarity - you still seem to lack it - I re-post it here again:

Nevertheless, I believe .

"I" in the above quoted would be Ann Althouse. And according to you, Ann Althouse doesn't support what Ann Althouse believes. Yeah, talk about FAIL. :lol:

I used the word "support" in the academic context....i.e. to support with evidence. You seem to have the reading comprehension problem. She made a quite eloquent case as to why Obama may well have lied on the biographical data he would have been required to submit....i.e. she supplied motive. See my post and link on this above....it is certainly established, regardless of your denial.

Yes....she said she believed "that the most likely answer is that "born in Kenya" was a mistake, made by some literary agency underling, in a brochure that never inspired close reading, even as the years passed." (Also ref her quote before the article I posted) She didn't offer any evidence to support it. She did raise some interesting question.....that should be explored in more detail.

So.....your response to my earlier question is......."me too-what she said." Got it. You read this and "believed" too.... a "long time ago." FAIL back in your court.

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I really don't care about the Constitution of a foreign country. :wacko: Go figure.

Come on, why was it placed? Constitutions change, they aren't the Holy Bible, enlighten me how the three century old criterion still aplies nowadays.

The Constitution of the United States of America is what helps separate the good presidents from the Obama's and the Ceauşescu's of this world.

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It didn't stop us from picking racists and tyrants, like Wilson and FDR.

Nothing is perfect.

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The Constitution of the United States of America is what helps separate the good presidents from the Obama's and the Ceauşescu's of this world.

Like I said, our constitution changed at least 4 times in the last 150 years, to keep up with the social and political realities. [ And do you really wanna open up the communist chapter and how the Allies (led by guess who?) betrayed us after WW2? ]

Seems yours has too, in some aspects. So why is the birth aspect so important?

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So having a separate opinion makes you a troll now?


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NVC [*] 14 May 2012 - Petition received by NVC ; [*] 16 May 2012 - Petition left NVC.

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POE [*] 04 July 2012 - Minneapolis/St.Paul. [*] 16 September 2012 - Wedding Day!

AOS/EAD/AP [*] 04 February 2013 - AOS/EAD/AP package sent; [*] 07 February 2013 - AOS/EAD/AP package delivered; [*] 12 February 2013 - NOA1 text messages/emails; [*] 16 February 2013 - NOA1 received in the regular mail; [*] 28 February 2013 - Biometrics letter received (appointment date, March 8th); [*] 04 March 2013 - Biometrics walk-in completed (9 out of 10 fingerprints taken, pinky would not give in); [*] 04 April 2013 - EAD/AP card approved; [*] 11 April 2013 - Combo card sent/tracking number obtained; [*] 15 April 2013 - Card delivered.

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stop feeding the trolls already!

But they're hungry!

And it's fun to watch. I feel like I'm at the zoo and the animals are behaving oddly.

So having a separate opinion makes you a troll now?

Just the way it makes people sheep, right? ;)

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Sheep are cute animals, tasty too.

The lambs ... were screaming!

Leaving that aside, I still don't why it's a must that the president were born in the US. Sort of discriminatory of you ask me.

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USCIS [*] 22 Nov. 2011 - I-129 package sent; [*] 25 Nov. 2011 - Package delivered; [*] 25 Nov. 2011 - NOA1/petition received and routed to the California Service Center; [*] 30 Nov. 2011 - Touched/confirmation though text message and email; [*] 03 Dec. 2011 - Hard copy received; [*]24 April 2012 - NOA2 (no RFEs)/text message/email/USCIS account updated; [*] 27 April 2012 - NOA2 hard copy received.

NVC [*] 14 May 2012 - Petition received by NVC ; [*] 16 May 2012 - Petition left NVC.

EMBASSY [*] 18 May 2012 - Petition arrived at the US Embassy in Bucharest; [*] 22 May 2012 - Package 3 received; [*] 24 May 2012 - Package sent to the consulate, interview date set; [*] 14 June 2012 - Interview date, approved.

POE [*] 04 July 2012 - Minneapolis/St.Paul. [*] 16 September 2012 - Wedding Day!

AOS/EAD/AP [*] 04 February 2013 - AOS/EAD/AP package sent; [*] 07 February 2013 - AOS/EAD/AP package delivered; [*] 12 February 2013 - NOA1 text messages/emails; [*] 16 February 2013 - NOA1 received in the regular mail; [*] 28 February 2013 - Biometrics letter received (appointment date, March 8th); [*] 04 March 2013 - Biometrics walk-in completed (9 out of 10 fingerprints taken, pinky would not give in); [*] 04 April 2013 - EAD/AP card approved; [*] 11 April 2013 - Combo card sent/tracking number obtained; [*] 15 April 2013 - Card delivered.

[*] 15 May 2013 - Moved from MN to LA; [*] 17 May 2013 - Applied for a new SS card/filed an AR-11 online (unsuccessfully), therefore called and spoke to a Tier 2 and changed the address; [*] 22 May 2013 - Address updated on My Case Status (finally can see the case numbers online); [*] 28 May 2013 - Letter received in the mail confirming the change of address; [*] 31 July 2013 - Went to Romania; [*] 12 September 2013 - returned to the US using the AP, POE Houston, everything went smoothly; [*] 20 September 2013 - Spoke to a Tier2 and put in a service request; [*] 23 September 2013 - Got "Possible Interview Waiver" letter (originally sent on August, 29th to my old address, returned and re-routed to my current address); [*] 1 October 2013 - Started a new job.

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There's nothing to unravel. And you have not shown that Obama was required to submit his place of birth. You might think that you've shown that but clearly, you have not.

I have posted the literary agent's own site, with the requirement clearly stating that the client would submit their own biographical data. It's clear. Your inability and/or unwillingness to grasp this seems.... er, weak-minded. Yep.

Tell me "dog"..... Who is it you believed submitted this biographical information in 1991? You think this agent just pulled "Kenya" right out of her a_s?

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Like I said, our constitution changed at least 4 times in the last 150 years, to keep up with the social and political realities. [ And do you really wanna open up the communist chapter and how the Allies (led by guess who?) betrayed us after WW2? ]

Seems yours has too, in some aspects. So why is the birth aspect so important?

You can't change the rules in the middle of a game. It takes nothing short of an act of god to amend the Constitution. If Obama was born outside of the US like Stalin was born in Georgia then he's broken a sacred rule and must be dealt with accordingly along with anyone who had knowledge of him being born outside the US.

And yes I do agree with you the US screwed Romania big time along with the rest of Eastern Europe and it's a stain on our history.

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