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Filed: Citizen (pnd) Country: Pakistan
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My wife is planning to file as married filing jointly and for this purpose I sent her a completed and signed W-7 but did not write her name in the delegate part. She said she was told by IRS that she does not need to send W-7 for ITIN to Austin, Texas but just send the whole thing (W-7 and tax return forms) to IRS.

Do I need to send her W-7 form again with her name in delegate? It already took 2 weeks for her to receive mail from my country.

Also, should she send the W-7 first to get ITIN for me and once she receives then she submits her tax returns?

Married: 12/01/2011
USCIS Stage:
I-130 sent: 12/29/2011 NOA1: 01/03/2012 NOA2: 09/24/2012 (Text and website) - 09/28/2012 (In mail) <265 days to approval from NOA1 date>
I-129F sent: 01/14/2012 NOA1: 01/18/2012 NOA2: 09/27/2012 (Withdrawn)
RFE: 08/13/2012 "Proof of Bona Fide marital relationship". (Took them 7 months, 1 week and 4 days to send an RFE).
RFE Responce received by CSC-USCIS on 09/07/2012.
NVC Stage:
NVC Received: 10/09/2012
NVC issued Case #, IIN and BIN: 10/10/2012
IV Package Received at NVC: 12/03/2012

EMBASSY STAGE:
interview March 20, 2013 : results AP (sent in paperwork for co-sponsor received 4-20-2013)

Issued: September 30, 2013

POE: Raleigh-Durham International Airport, NC @ 10-17-2013 (Easy entry, pleasant experience).

Removal of Conditions on Residence:

Filed: August 14, 2015 - VSC

NOA1: 08/19/2015

Date of Decision: 06-03-2013

Letter of Approval received: 06-09-2016

Green Card received: 07-15-2016

Naturlization N-400:

Filed: September 16, 2019

Biometrics: October 9, 2019

Interview: August 24, 2020

Approval: Approved and received Naturalization Certificate same day.

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Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: Germany
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Stupid question: what is the W-7? I haven't gotten there yet and I'm not sure what this is about. Can someone break it down for me?

12/08/2011 Married

02/06/2012 I-130 Packet sent via FedEx

02/09/2012 NOA1- case sent to VSC!

07/09/2012 NOA2

07/11/2012 case received at NVC

07/27/2012 NVC case number and IIN received

07/27/2012 DS-3032 sent via email

08/01/2012 AOS bill received via email, paid online

08/01/2012 Beneficiary received DS-3032 form via email

08/02/2012 AOS bill shows paid

08/03/2012 AOS package sent via FedEx

08/03/2012 Email acceptance of DS-3032 from NVC

08/06/2012 IV Bill received

08/06/2012 IV bill paid

08/06/2012 AOS package received

08/07/2012 IV bill shows paid

08/09/2012 IV package sent

08/09/2012 AOS package accepted

08/20/2012 IV package accepted

08/20/2012 NVC Case Complete

09/14/2012 Interview date assigned

09/26/2012 Medical in Barbados

10/01/2012 Interview in Barbados

xx/xx/2012 POE- San Juan, PR

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My wife is planning to file as married filing jointly and for this purpose I sent her a completed and signed W-7 but did not write her name in the delegate part. She said she was told by IRS that she does not need to send W-7 for ITIN to Austin, Texas but just send the whole thing (W-7 and tax return forms) to IRS.

Do I need to send her W-7 form again with her name in delegate? It already took 2 weeks for her to receive mail from my country.

Also, should she send the W-7 first to get ITIN for me and once she receives then she submits her tax returns?

You don't need the delegate section, but I'm pretty sure it has to be sent to Austin.

From what I understand if your spouse has not yet got visa and is not in country one would have to file Married Seprate and from your post it seems you are trying to do other way Married Joint.

Anyone married can file married jointly. You just have to get an Individual Taxpayer Identification Number (ITIN) for your spouse, which is what we are all doing with the W-7 form. It doesn't matter if your spouse is still out of the country, but the foreign spouse also has to sign a form electing to be treated as a resident for tax purposes, which means you will be taxed on their income unless you file for an foreign income exclusion or foreign tax credit.

Stupid question: what is the W-7? I haven't gotten there yet and I'm not sure what this is about. Can someone break it down for me?

The W-7 is a tax form that you use to get an ITIN for your spouse (basically a temporary Social Security Number) so you can file jointly or claim them as an exemption.

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My wife is planning to file as married filing jointly and for this purpose I sent her a completed and signed W-7 but did not write her name in the delegate part. She said she was told by IRS that she does not need to send W-7 for ITIN to Austin, Texas but just send the whole thing (W-7 and tax return forms) to IRS.

Do I need to send her W-7 form again with her name in delegate? It already took 2 weeks for her to receive mail from my country.

Also, should she send the W-7 first to get ITIN for me and once she receives then she submits her tax returns?

You should check again. All the forms (and even the IRS hotline) say the form must go to the Austin IRS address:

Internal Revenue Service

ITIN Operation

P.O. Box 149342

Austin, TX 78714-9342

That is the center for processing W-7s. Note that your regular tax return needs to be sent as well. This center will process the W-7 AND your yearly tax return.

Anyone looking to go this route should start with this: http://www.irs.gov/instructions/iw7/ch01.html. It should help get you started.

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12/9/11 - Sent I-130 packet

12/12/11 - I-130 delivered

12/14/11 - G-1145 notification

12/15/11 - NOA1

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Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: India
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My wife is planning to file as married filing jointly and for this purpose I sent her a completed and signed W-7 but did not write her name in the delegate part. She said she was told by IRS that she does not need to send W-7 for ITIN to Austin, Texas but just send the whole thing (W-7 and tax return forms) to IRS.

Do I need to send her W-7 form again with her name in delegate? It already took 2 weeks for her to receive mail from my country.

Also, should she send the W-7 first to get ITIN for me and once she receives then she submits her tax returns?

Well, your wife can write her name in the delegate section. It is better to be safe than sorry, so I would write it down. Alizon and Matt did not have any problems when they called the IRS to check on the status of their W-7 application. I DID, I couldn't get any piece of info from them, I gave them my husband's name, address, passport number, date of birth -I even argued that the ONLY part of information on that form worth of "stealing" is my SSN. I called 3 times. So, I do recommend writing it based on my experience but is up to you.

USCIS
July 15, 2011 - NOA 1, Jan 24, 2012 - NOA 2

NVC
Feb 8, 2012 - NVC # & Invoice ID # Received
Feb 8, 2012 - Emailed NVC DS-3032 ( choice of agent ) Accepted!
Feb 9, 2012 - AOS Fee Paid
Feb 10, 2012 - AOS bill shows Paid :-)
Feb 10, 2012 - IV bill Paid (In Process)
Feb 14, 2012 - IV bill shows In Process, Fee was withdrawn from Bank Account. So,is PAID :-)
Feb 14, 2012 - IV bill shows Paid.
Feb 17, 2012 - AOS and IV Packages Sent to NVC, same envelope :-)
Feb 21, 2012 - AOS and IV Packages RECEIVED by NVC
Feb 24, 2012 - AOS Accepted.
Feb 24, 2012 - IV RFE "Original Marriage Certificate" It was included. Waiting for supervisor to review Marriage Certificate (10 - 15 days)
Mar 20, 2012 - RFE Sent
Mar 22, 2012 - CASE COMPLETE

Embassy ~ New Delhi
April 10, 2012 - Received Email, Interview Date: May 9th! Yeeey!
April 16, 2012 - Medical Exam
May 09, 2012 - INTERVIEW = AP
Jul 03, 2012 - Called DoS AP OVER, VFS's website says passport was handed over to Blue Dart, Waiting for delivery :-)

Jul 06, 2012 - VISA IN HAND (Visa was issued on July 2nd)

POE
Jul 17, 2012 - SAN DIEGO

July 28, 2012 - Welcome Letter Received
July 31, 2012 - Green Card Received
Aug. 01, 2012 - Applied for SSN
Aug. 07, 2012 - Received SSN Card :-) yeeeeeeey! Time to look for a job!

ROC I-751

May 08, 2014 - Sent I-751 to CSC

May 14, 2014 - NOA Received (Dated: 5/09/2014)

May 14, 2014 - Check Cashed

June 12, 2014 - Biometrics Appt.

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Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: Nepal
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hello,

Just a heads up, I spoke with the IRS people about possibly just sending in a new return "married filing seperately" and amending it when she's here in May. But the women said that because i already sent in a "married filing Jointly" I cannot file "Married filing seperately". It can only be done the other way around. I'm not saying this is right but it's what they told me today, but at this point Im like whatever.

Matt

Hi Matt,

I don't know why i did it but I did not submit my tax return earlier and was waiting for ITIN. So, I had luxury to fill it as married filling separately. Last night I talked to my CPA and e-filled tax returns 2011. I felt it will be better course of action to get AOS ready as I am hoping to hear NOA2 soon. In general it will take 4-5 weeks to show your latest tax return after the date of you filled your tax return and I want to have 2011 tax return on my latest 3 years tax return transcript

[b][color="#FF0000"]USCIS Journey[/color][/b]
06/25/2011 - Married @ native country
Mid of August: Filled N400
Mid Of October : Filled I -130 ( LPR F2A)
10/17/2011 : NOA1
12/08/2011 : Oath Ceremoney for N400, Boston @ 12:00 pm
12/08/2011 : [b]Called VSC to Upgrade the Case [color="#FF0000"]( LPR F2A to CR-1)[/color] @ 3pm[/b]
12/12/2011 : Email Confirmation of Upgrade
[color="#008000"][b]04/14/2012 : NOA2[/color][/b]([i]Can't Express how happy I was and relieved from A Long WAITING GAME.....but everyone has to go through it......)[/i]

[color="#FF0000"][b]NVC Journey[/b][/color]

04/24/2012---Case number and IIN received, Email address Provided of both petitionner and benificiary
04/24/2012---DS 3032 emailed to NVC
04/26/2012---AOS fee bill paid
04/27/2012---AOS fee bill shows " PAID"
04/30/2012---AOS package sent
05/02/2012---DS 3032 accepted
05/02/2012---IV fee bill invoiced
05/04/2012---IV fee bill shows " PAID"
05/04/2012---IV package sent
05/11/2012---AOS Reviewed and Accepted
05/14/2012---IV package Reviewed and Accepted

[b][color="#2E8B57"]05/15/2012--------Case Complete[/color][/b] [color="#FF00FF"] [[i]([s]Wow....!!!!!! Wait....Ouch...Did i miss "Interview Scheduling" process for this month by day or 2 days??[/s]?)[/color][/i]

06/06/2012-----[b]Interview Date Assigned[/b]

[b][color="#FF0000"]Medical / Consulate / POE[/color][/b]
06/08/2012-----Medical Exam
06/15/2012-----Case Forwarded to Embassy
06/24/2012-----1st Marriage Anniversary
07/10/2012-----Interview date: [b][color="#00BFFF"]APPROVED[/color][/b]
07/17/2012-----[i][b][color="#2E8B57"]Boston,MA [/color][/b][/i]

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Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: Nepal
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Stupid question: what is the W-7? I haven't gotten there yet and I'm not sure what this is about. Can someone break it down for me?

Caribbean Pirate,

check the link, it might help

http://www.irs.gov/taxtopics/tc857.html

If someone is filling W-7 with connected to USC or LPR who is Petitioner for I-130, then best reason to fill W-7 should be "A nonresident alien not eligible for a SSN electing to file a joint tax return with a spouse who is a U.S. citizen or resident alien"

It’s not mandatory but good idea for whole I-130 process, NVC stage (AOS)

2nd option is you can fill your tax normally as married filing separately and do amendment when your spouse gets here(USA) by filling form 1040X.

Make it simple: Individual Taxpayer Identification Number (ITIN) – Form W-7 is temporary Social Security Number (SSN)

[b][color="#FF0000"]USCIS Journey[/color][/b]
06/25/2011 - Married @ native country
Mid of August: Filled N400
Mid Of October : Filled I -130 ( LPR F2A)
10/17/2011 : NOA1
12/08/2011 : Oath Ceremoney for N400, Boston @ 12:00 pm
12/08/2011 : [b]Called VSC to Upgrade the Case [color="#FF0000"]( LPR F2A to CR-1)[/color] @ 3pm[/b]
12/12/2011 : Email Confirmation of Upgrade
[color="#008000"][b]04/14/2012 : NOA2[/color][/b]([i]Can't Express how happy I was and relieved from A Long WAITING GAME.....but everyone has to go through it......)[/i]

[color="#FF0000"][b]NVC Journey[/b][/color]

04/24/2012---Case number and IIN received, Email address Provided of both petitionner and benificiary
04/24/2012---DS 3032 emailed to NVC
04/26/2012---AOS fee bill paid
04/27/2012---AOS fee bill shows " PAID"
04/30/2012---AOS package sent
05/02/2012---DS 3032 accepted
05/02/2012---IV fee bill invoiced
05/04/2012---IV fee bill shows " PAID"
05/04/2012---IV package sent
05/11/2012---AOS Reviewed and Accepted
05/14/2012---IV package Reviewed and Accepted

[b][color="#2E8B57"]05/15/2012--------Case Complete[/color][/b] [color="#FF00FF"] [[i]([s]Wow....!!!!!! Wait....Ouch...Did i miss "Interview Scheduling" process for this month by day or 2 days??[/s]?)[/color][/i]

06/06/2012-----[b]Interview Date Assigned[/b]

[b][color="#FF0000"]Medical / Consulate / POE[/color][/b]
06/08/2012-----Medical Exam
06/15/2012-----Case Forwarded to Embassy
06/24/2012-----1st Marriage Anniversary
07/10/2012-----Interview date: [b][color="#00BFFF"]APPROVED[/color][/b]
07/17/2012-----[i][b][color="#2E8B57"]Boston,MA [/color][/b][/i]

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Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: China
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wow - I am sorry you guys had so many problems and issues.

Once I got my wife's notarized copy of her passport bio page, signed w-7 , signed tax return, signed letter for electing to be considered as a resident alien for tax purposes, the rest was dead easy, no rejections.

yikes.

Sometimes my language usage seems confusing - please feel free to 'read it twice', just in case !
Ya know, you can find the answer to your question with the advanced search tool, when using a PC? Ditch the handphone, come back later on a PC, and try again.

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