Didnt met my fiancee in the last two years

[Gary and Alla 3,694]

Visa to "visit" is different from visa to get married! Either she goes to pakistan to get married to him, or he comes to the US to get married to her. Visa to pakistan is as much difficult to get as US visa. They have to do something! and you MOCK the law!

To the OP, Dont get discouraged. It is worth a try. You must fight your case and prove it, in order to get the waiver.

If she goes there she CAN get married to him before meeting him in person. If he comes here they can't. How to get the marriage license?

Fighting thr case, even if they win, will cost more and tale longer than meeting each other in person.

[Barron 1]

They could withdraw the petition go to visit tomorrow and refile when she gets back.

They can meet anywhere. England does not "let anyone in". Try getting a tourist visa if you are from the FSU

Why would you think it was directed to you?

Trust me we do I am from here, have you read our news recently and all the problems we are having with border control.. Getting out is harder then getting in. We need to adopt Americas approach.

But my suggestion was meant as they could meet here, we are multicultural and they might both find it easier.. But again they do need to know each others culture.

[brian_n_phuong 193]

[pushbrk 12,253]

Inshallah You will be okay.. Just Include as much evidence as you can to prove that it is not permitted in our religion and culture to see each other before marriage. Get an official letter from a religious leader explaining why you can not meet. (it is forbidden in Islam, but you have to show them that.) It may b tough, but dont give up. dont let anyone discourage you. you have to fight ur case.

There is no such evidence. Islam does not prohibit a couple from meeting in person before marriage. I get that you don't "date" or see each other alone, but seeing each other alone is not the requirement. The couple can meet with chaparone(s). Please stop giving inaccurate information here.

[Gary and Alla 3,694]

Trust me we do I am from here, have you read our news recently and all the problems we are having with border control.. Getting out is harder then getting in. We need to adopt Americas approach.

But my suggestion was meant as they could meet here, we are multicultural and they might both find it easier.. But again they do need to know each others culture.

Trust me, my wife is from the FSU. She was denied a visa to the UK despite being contracted by a UK manufacturer to work for them as an interpreter at an exhibition. UK is one of the countries she really wants to visit now that she is a US citizen. We DID transfer airports there in summer 2010 and she did not need a visa to stay for up tp 24 hours because she had a US green card AND a booked ticket out of the UK. But as strictly a Ukrainian and not a GC holder...no way! She was told "They can hire an interpreter in London"

[Barron 1]

Trust me, my wife is from the FSU. She was denied a visa to the UK despite being contracted by a UK manufacturer to work for them as an interpreter at an exhibition. UK is one of the countries she really wants to visit now that she is a US citizen. We DID transfer airports there in summer 2010 and she did not need a visa to stay for up tp 24 hours because she had a US green card AND a booked ticket out of the UK. But as strictly a Ukrainian and not a GC holder...no way! She was told "They can hire an interpreter in London"

Wow I have never heard of that, I am from Hull... A town which is a major port to Europe, we have all kinds of different nationalities here, and cultures. I am so sorry to her that, I have always thought we are pretty open because of all the different cultures we are lucky to have. Alas though over the last few days we have been slated in the news for our lack of border controls.

The precious GC, man I am so sick of the trouble I am having with mine.. Trying to get back in to the USA is hard for me right now, thanks to my GC.

I hope she gets to have a full visit here, London is a wonderful place and she will enjoy it.. I do not understand why she was treated so badly.

[Stephen + Elisha 92]

We need to adopt Americas approach.

You mean Swiss cheese border security, on top of which we reward all the lawbreakers with amnesty every 20 years or so?! As they say in South Philly, God forbit!

[Barron 1]

You mean Swiss cheese border security, on top of which we reward all the lawbreakers with amnesty every 20 years or so?! As they say in South Philly, God forbit!

Ahh yes I forget about that, but hey read this: We indeed can be idiots, but we are trying to fix it

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-17099143

[Shoot Em Straight 385]

Inshallah You will be okay.. Just Include as much evidence as you can to prove that it is not permitted in our religion and culture to see each other before marriage. Get an official letter from a religious leader explaining why you can not meet. (it is forbidden in Islam, but you have to show them that.) It may b tough, but dont give up. dont let anyone discourage you. you have to fight ur case.

Please enlighten me of Islam in Pakistan....What is forbidden in Islam?....Meeting a person in real life? You are talking about what? If it is cultural thing...I am not all together sure meeting and conversing on the internet should be allowed either??? She has a child,from a previous relationship....so I am doubting she...oh nevermind enough said.

If OP is still here on VJ... Take pushbrk's advice!!!I assume the beneficiary and petitioner got a lot of advice and hope they can sort out there lives...

[Gary and Alla 3,694]

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Edited February 21, 2012 by Gary and Alla

[Gary and Alla 3,694]

Wow I have never heard of that, I am from Hull... A town which is a major port to Europe, we have all kinds of different nationalities here, and cultures. I am so sorry to her that, I have always thought we are pretty open because of all the different cultures we are lucky to have. Alas though over the last few days we have been slated in the news for our lack of border controls.

The precious GC, man I am so sick of the trouble I am having with mine.. Trying to get back in to the USA is hard for me right now, thanks to my GC.

I hope she gets to have a full visit here, London is a wonderful place and she will enjoy it.. I do not understand why she was treated so badly.

Don't feel bad, the US, Canada and most EU countries are the same. They pretty much slam the window on FSU citizens as regards visitors visas. she was also denied visas to the US and Italy...3 for 3 denials!

[Gary and Alla 3,694]

There is no such evidence. Islam does not prohibit a couple from meeting in person before marriage. I get that you don't "date" or see each other alone, but seeing each other alone is not the requirement. The couple can meet with chaparone(s). Please stop giving inaccurate information here.

Thanks again Pushbrk.

When I read these posts, and they appear every couple of weeks that I see, it never fails. The knowledgeable members give good advice to meet and then file. But someone has to come along and muck it up with some twisted interpretation to give the poster false hope.

Now looky here, none of us are stupid. The OP is looking for the fastest cheapest easiest way to apply for this visa. That is usually the case and no doubt it is in this case. The excuses offered are exceedingly weak so it is pretty clear what they want.

CHEAP EASY FAST

No problem. We all want the same thing. SO the cheapest, easiest and fastest way to be together forever is for the two people to meet in person, then file the petition. Advising anything else is not doing them a service.

[pushbrk 12,253]

Thanks again Pushbrk.

When I read these posts, and they appear every couple of weeks that I see, it never fails. The knowledgeable members give good advice to meet and then file. But someone has to come along and muck it up with some twisted interpretation to give the poster false hope.

Now looky here, none of us are stupid. The OP is looking for the fastest cheapest easiest way to apply for this visa. That is usually the case and no doubt it is in this case. The excuses offered are exceedingly weak so it is pretty clear what they want.

CHEAP EASY FAST

No problem. We all want the same thing. SO the cheapest, easiest and fastest way to be together forever is for the two people to meet in person, then file the petition. Advising anything else is not doing them a service.

I don't get where people get such strange ideas. Lots of couples in Pakistan are marrying their first cousins. Did they REALLY never meet their bride or groom in person before marriage? Do these people think USCIS adjudicators know NOTHING about Pakistan or Islam?

They tried. Their excuses were lame. Now, it's time to do it right or not do it at all.

Edited February 21, 2012 by pushbrk

[EAbbas 213]

Thanks again Pushbrk.

When I read these posts, and they appear every couple of weeks that I see, it never fails. The knowledgeable members give good advice to meet and then file. But someone has to come along and muck it up with some twisted interpretation to give the poster false hope.

Now looky here, none of us are stupid. The OP is looking for the fastest cheapest easiest way to apply for this visa. That is usually the case and no doubt it is in this case. The excuses offered are exceedingly weak so it is pretty clear what they want.

CHEAP EASY FAST

No problem. We all want the same thing. SO the cheapest, easiest and fastest way to be together forever is for the two people to meet in person, then file the petition. Advising anything else is not doing them a service.

i agree with you too... if it was against islam to meet before marriage then nobody would be traveling to pakistan to meet their fiance ... and i certainly wouldnt have seen my husband at the airport gates along with his family he would have been in another place until after our nikah... that wasn't the case he was right there at the airport he stayed in the same house as me before we married altho we werent left alone which was fine.. but after marriage everything was as it should be for married couples.

The OP is going to have a difficult time at best presenting a convincing case... without meeting in person and fulfulling the requirements for k1

[Boiler 43,791]

The UK does let pretty much anybody in, there are a few odd exceptions. And it is extremely difficult to get booted out.

Obviously this petition will be rejected.