previous application

[milimelo 4,624]

They also speak French in Morocco - same word for fiance(e). Hard to believe he knew nothing of what was going on.

fiancé, ~e /fjɑ̃se/ noun, masculine, feminine fiancé/fiancée.

[MIBEN 83]

I have to agree with the ladies investigate but don't put yourself in a compromising situation so far from home. Keep yourself safe, take in information, enjoy, but get yourself home safely then decide. A note my daughter just reminded me of his family treated us so kindly as we were the first American to visit them only to find out they treat the two previous American women the exact same way with so much kindness. As far as your fb being on private and he contacted you. I commonly get emails like that and fb is very easy to hack.

Proceed with caution, in the end hope you enjoy the rest of the trip and get home safely.

[together4evr 360]

Wow, now I am scared for her. But this has made me very curious as to what you guys think will happen to her if she confronts him or calls him a liar? Will his whole family beat her? Will he kidnap her or just beat her? I am with a MENA man and I have not feared for my life during any heated discussion.

Should she be worried about provoking him and why?

Is it the moroccon culture or is it the fraudster men from MENA that are violent and impulsive or danagerous?

I am now fearing for her safety!

[together4evr 360]

I have to agree with the ladies investigate but don't put yourself in a compromising situation so far from home. Keep yourself safe, take in information, enjoy, but get yourself home safely then decide. A note my daughter just reminded me of his family treated us so kindly as we were the first American to visit them only to find out they treat the two previous American women the exact same way with so much kindness. As far as your fb being on private and he contacted you. I commonly get emails like that and fb is very easy to hack.

Proceed with caution, in the end hope you enjoy the rest of the trip and get home safely.

ok now I am very curious as to what your full story is? I looked at your timeline so I am sure this is not the bad guy. Right? Do you have your story posted somewhere? I could not find any thread of yours with it...

[MIBEN 83]

I am not a bad guy, if you look at my timeline I clearly posted how my visa case with my husband unfolded but in my responses I am refering to my ex-fiancé. Am I worried for her immediate safety? Potentially, yes it is clearly stated in the State Department post on the consulate link. Women in Morocco have to be very careful hence my advice enjoy your trip but do not compromise yourself. Ironically, I was on my second visit to my ex-fiancé when everything began to unravel and present itself. I enjoyed the rest of my trip at that time since I had my daughter with me i kept a cool head and we came home safely then I cut off all communication.

Not sure what you are referring to as threads but I make plenty of posts to vj members whenever i can assist. As someone that has been there done that I am telling her be careful and get home safely don't create too many waves. My ex did hit his sister and was aggressive with one of the American women that visited him before me. In my case, I am an Army vet my war stories alone scared him and kept him at bay. I am also married to a MENA man and he is in no shape, form, or fashion like my ex but that does not change the fact that scammers and green card seekers are common in Morocco.

Her inquiry really hit home for me because at the time it happened to I was heart-broken but yet I had to keep my head in the game and just get myself home safely.

[MalaysianGirl 26]

A couple thoughts right off the top of my head...

I'm pretty sure the beneficiary can not "cancel" the application. Only the petitioner can, if I'm not mistaken. So, there may be another instance where he wasn't exactly clear/honest with you.

I was the beneficiary in my K1 visa application, and I cancelled it myself by sending a letter (typed and printed out and signed) to the US embassy in my country (Malaysia). So I am sure that the OP's fiance/husband could have done so. But I am not sure exactly what happened with his case -- did he actually send a letter requesting for the cancellation? Or did he not correspond with the US embassy in Morocco at all?

[JimVaPhuong 4,863]

I was the beneficiary in my K1 visa application, and I cancelled it myself by sending a letter (typed and printed out and signed) to the US embassy in my country (Malaysia). So I am sure that the OP's fiance/husband could have done so. But I am not sure exactly what happened with his case -- did he actually send a letter requesting for the cancellation? Or did he not correspond with the US embassy in Morocco at all?

You're correct. The beneficiary applies for the visa, and the beneficiary can withdraw the visa application. I think msheesha meant that only the petitioner can withdraw the petition, which is true.

[Hatem&Zeinab 30]

I strongly recommend that you reconsider this whole relationship. I don't understand, what are the odds of someone falling in love twice in such a short period and in both times it is a USC!! This is an exact online hunting, at least for me. By the way, I have been to Morocco for six weeks before in 2006, and I strongly agree with the previous post that the main concern for youth in internet cafe is how to hunt a foreign girl online, play the love story on her just get out of Morocco.

However, I have some very good Moroccans who really loved their wives, and in fact they chose to live in Morocco, so they were not seeking a green card. I just don't think this is the case here. There is lot of red flags in your story.

I don't buy his story of not knowing what a k1-visa is. Trust me my dear, he knows exactly what it means. I don't understand, what does he mean by not knowing what exactly was going on when he received his interview packet? Does he mean his ex surprised him that she is petitioning for him, or may be trying to fool him make him sign paper work and suddenly find himself on a plane heading to USA??

Besides, I don't buy the story that he cancelled the petition, because simply he can't. Only the petitioner can. My explanation to that is that either things didn't work out with his ex in the last minute, or may be he met you and you are a younger good looking girl or so.

As for not knowing what the term Fiance meant? How come? Everybody in Morocco speaks French, and the word is the same in English and French!!

One more thing I would like to mention to you. I am from the Middle East, and men in this part of the world have a different way of thinking. They rarely marry a girl who is older than them. In fact, I will go even further, and tell you that men in the Middle East don't just look for you a younger girl when it comes to marriage, they even want her to be virgin. As I see from your story, his ex was much older than him, which put a big question mark.

Regardless of all the previous facts that I mentioned, I don't think CO in Casablanca will buy his side of the story. Casablanca is known being very tough.

I strongly advise you that you side down for a bit, and start thinking about the whole thing again so you don't regret it later.

I know my reply may be a little hard but I have tried to be as honest as possible with you.

Thank you and good luck

[Tahlisha 28]

WOW..... It really is sad how most are painting a picture of Moroccan men being Violent.... I agree with everyone in advising Courtney that she should be careful and do her homework... I myself advised her of this before she even booked her trip.... The truth of the matter is we don't know all the details of the situation.... I mean even in normal circumstances some hide previous relationships for whatever reason.... But for everyone to just jump to the conclusion that this person is not sincere in his feelings for her is wrong....I have learned in my communicating with Courtney that she is in no hurry to get married, with that being said she should just go with her original plan of taking it as slow as she wants to and keep her eyes open...... If he trully loves her he will wait as long as it takes......

On a side note any NON-MUSLIM woman should question why a MUSLIM man wants to marry her especially those from a MUSLIM country.

[MIBEN 83]

Collectively everyone is just saying be careful not necessarily from violence but scams as well. In the end she is a grown woman and noone can make those decisions for her. We don't know the gentleman and we are speaking in general terms of the things that unfortunately do happen to Americans both Muslim and non-Muslim. We do wish her the best outcome and it's not us he will have the interview with that will be his battle to overcome with the consulate.

Side note not everyone from MENA countries are Muslim ultimately everyone has to be careful regardless of religion.

[Tahlisha 28]

Collectively everyone is just saying be careful not necessarily from violence but scams as well. In the end she is a grown woman and noone can make those decisions for her. We don't know the gentleman and we are speaking in general terms of the things that unfortunately do happen to Americans both Muslim and non-Muslim. We do wish her the best outcome and it's not us he will have the interview with that will be his battle to overcome with the consulate.

Side note not everyone from MENA countries are Muslim ultimately everyone has to be careful regardless of religion.

This is true... But I am just saying... In my opinion any Muslim man from a muslim country looking to marry a non-Muslim woman he met online would be a red flag... But this is just my opinion

[msheesha 548]

WOW..... It really is sad how most are painting a picture of Moroccan men being Violent.... I agree with everyone in advising Courtney that she should be careful and do her homework... I myself advised her of this before she even booked her trip.... The truth of the matter is we don't know all the details of the situation.... I mean even in normal circumstances some hide previous relationships for whatever reason.... But for everyone to just jump to the conclusion that this person is not sincere in his feelings for her is wrong....I have learned in my communicating with Courtney that she is in no hurry to get married, with that being said she should just go with her original plan of taking it as slow as she wants to and keep her eyes open...... If he trully loves her he will wait as long as it takes......

On a side note any NON-MUSLIM woman should question why a MUSLIM man wants to marry her especially those from a MUSLIM country.

Where is anyone painting Moroccan men as violent???

A single woman staying with a man she is meeting for the first time, in a foreign country, should be careful and take necessary precautions. Add onto that she just learned he's been dishonest to her - either by omission or blatantly - and all warnings to be careful and safe are pretty appropriate.

While it may not be common place in MENA countries, it is perfectly acceptable from an Islamic standpoint, for a Muslim man to marry a Christian or Jewish woman.

[together4evr 360]

WOW..... It really is sad how most are painting a picture of Moroccan men being Violent.... I agree with everyone in advising Courtney that she should be careful and do her homework... I myself advised her of this before she even booked her trip.... The truth of the matter is we don't know all the details of the situation.... I mean even in normal circumstances some hide previous relationships for whatever reason.... But for everyone to just jump to the conclusion that this person is not sincere in his feelings for her is wrong....I have learned in my communicating with Courtney that she is in no hurry to get married, with that being said she should just go with her original plan of taking it as slow as she wants to and keep her eyes open...... If he trully loves her he will wait as long as it takes......

On a side note any NON-MUSLIM woman should question why a MUSLIM man wants to marry her especially those from a MUSLIM country.

I have heard that if a Middle East Man marries a dark skinned girl she should question fraud cause why would he want to marry her.

Edited December 13, 2011 by togetherforever13

[together4evr 360]

[Tahlisha 28]

Where is anyone painting Moroccan men as violent???

A single woman staying with a man she is meeting for the first time, in a foreign country, should be careful and take necessary precautions. Add onto that she just learned he's been dishonest to her - either by omission or blatantly - and all warnings to be careful and safe are pretty appropriate.

While it may not be common place in MENA countries, it is perfectly acceptable from an Islamic standpoint, for a Muslim man to marry a Christian or Jewish woman.

Someone did mention something about being beaten or kidknapped.... And I know it is acceptable for a muslim man to marry a woman of the book (shristian or jew) I am muslim, don't need a lesson on that..... However it is better if a muslim man married a muslim woman..... I know pleanty of muslim men who are married to non-muslim women. My brother in-law being one.... I am just saying folks should question it.... I mean with all that a person has to go through... things get more complicated when you throw religon in the mix... But then again most of those who marry non-muslim women don't really practice their faith anyway so in those cases I guess it doesn't really matter.....