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Just from my own experience, you should be fine with her going home and filing through the CR-1 route. I was on VWP and married within it, then overstayed for 5 months due to bad advice. It turned out luckily for me that it's a slap on the wrist at best if the VWP overystay is less than 6 months, so if she leaves and goes home while in it everything should be ok. I would double-check with an immigration lawyer, many will give you a free phone consultation. Read this http://www.visajourney.com/content/i130guide1

Ready for my grand ol' timeline? Alrighty then!

10-05-10 - Married in California
06-13-11 - I-130 approved
10-13-11 - CASE COMPLETE!
12-02-11 - Interview - 221g due to a washed passport
12-17-11 - POE - YYC (preclearance in Canada)

2011 to 2013 - Life happened

06-26-13 - Divorce finalized

10-07-13 - I-751 divorce filer paperwork journey begins

07-03-14 - ROC interview - approval pending delayed background checks

07-25-14 - APPROVED! 10 year GC is finally in production!

08-01-14 - 10 year GC in hand. The journey has finally ended. :)

2014 to 2020 - Living paperwork-free and focused on me!

11-09-20 - N-400 filed online - welcome back VJ fam!

6-22-21 - Interview in Nashville, approved! And then...

6-22-21 - Pledge of Allegiance taken. Holy shirtballs I'm a US Citizen.

 

I've spent so many years in the loving arms of the USCIS, but now it's time to fledge. So long, my friends, may all your journeys also end on the doorstep of whatever you're searching for.

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Also, it's worth noting that things are a little rocky with adjustment of status after overstay - this was where our confusion came in, as many people assured us we would be fine. It turns out that mainly in San Diego they were (not sure about now) holding and even refusing AOS applications based on overstay. The advice we got from a very good SD-based lawyer was to go home and file CR-1 route before a 6-month or more overstay happened.

So to those advising that overstaying is fine, please don't, it not always is.

Ready for my grand ol' timeline? Alrighty then!

10-05-10 - Married in California
06-13-11 - I-130 approved
10-13-11 - CASE COMPLETE!
12-02-11 - Interview - 221g due to a washed passport
12-17-11 - POE - YYC (preclearance in Canada)

2011 to 2013 - Life happened

06-26-13 - Divorce finalized

10-07-13 - I-751 divorce filer paperwork journey begins

07-03-14 - ROC interview - approval pending delayed background checks

07-25-14 - APPROVED! 10 year GC is finally in production!

08-01-14 - 10 year GC in hand. The journey has finally ended. :)

2014 to 2020 - Living paperwork-free and focused on me!

11-09-20 - N-400 filed online - welcome back VJ fam!

6-22-21 - Interview in Nashville, approved! And then...

6-22-21 - Pledge of Allegiance taken. Holy shirtballs I'm a US Citizen.

 

I've spent so many years in the loving arms of the USCIS, but now it's time to fledge. So long, my friends, may all your journeys also end on the doorstep of whatever you're searching for.

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OP's wife entered on a B visa. Not the VWP.

Our journey together on this earth has come to an end.

I will see you one day again, my love.

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OP's wife entered on a B visa. Not the VWP.

Ahh missed that little bit of info... as you were!

Ready for my grand ol' timeline? Alrighty then!

10-05-10 - Married in California
06-13-11 - I-130 approved
10-13-11 - CASE COMPLETE!
12-02-11 - Interview - 221g due to a washed passport
12-17-11 - POE - YYC (preclearance in Canada)

2011 to 2013 - Life happened

06-26-13 - Divorce finalized

10-07-13 - I-751 divorce filer paperwork journey begins

07-03-14 - ROC interview - approval pending delayed background checks

07-25-14 - APPROVED! 10 year GC is finally in production!

08-01-14 - 10 year GC in hand. The journey has finally ended. :)

2014 to 2020 - Living paperwork-free and focused on me!

11-09-20 - N-400 filed online - welcome back VJ fam!

6-22-21 - Interview in Nashville, approved! And then...

6-22-21 - Pledge of Allegiance taken. Holy shirtballs I'm a US Citizen.

 

I've spent so many years in the loving arms of the USCIS, but now it's time to fledge. So long, my friends, may all your journeys also end on the doorstep of whatever you're searching for.

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Filed: F-2A Visa Country: Jamaica
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This link said nothing about overstay. The presence will be forgiven.

Current cut off date F2A - Current 

Brother's Journey (F2A) - PD Dec 30, 2010


Dec 30 2010 - Notice of Action 1 (NOA1)
May 12 2011 - Notice of Action 2 (NOA2)
May 23 2011 - NVC case # Assigned
Nov 17 2011 - COA / I-864 received
Nov 18 2011 - Sent COA
Apr 30 2012 - Pay AOS fee

Oct 15 2012 - Pay IV fee
Oct 25 2012 - Sent AOS/IV Package

Oct 29 2012 - Pkg Delivered
Dec 24 2012 - Case Complete

May 17 2013 - Interview-Approved

July 19 2013 - Enter the USA

"... Answer when you are called..."

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Filed: AOS (pnd) Country: Egypt
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The CBP officer can make notes under your I-94 number that can be accessed during your AOS interview. If you came into the country and were questioned by the CBP officer and then during your AOS interview they do not parallel then you have just committed material misrepresentation.

For example:

CBP: what is your purpose in the US during your stay?

you: to visit Disney World and feed the dolphins!

CBP: do you have any family or a boyfriend in the US?

you: No, I just want to feed the dolphins!!

CBP: okay... (type, type, type)

6-months later...(version 1)

IO: how did you two meet?

you: we met while I was feeding dolphins!

IO: okay, odd..I mean interesting! (type, stamp, approved)

6-months later...(version 2)

IO: how did you two meet?

you: we met online, he came to my country and we got engaged and talked about feeding dolphins!

IO: OH, r..e..a..l..l..y...... (evil internal laugh)

Sorry, it's Friday and I am having wine.... :innocent: :innocent: :innocent:

Best post ever ;) And a great explanation, too! It took a lot of reading to understand that - wish I'd had this post then...

________________________Amy & Michael___________________________

11NOV2011 - Met on eHarmony

30DEC2011 - Met in person

04MAY2011 - Submitted I-129F Packet after 28 days of prep

06MAY2011 - Accepted by J Arthur

09MAY2011 - Received acceptance email & text at 2:53 am (5/6)

18MAY2011 - Received Request for Payment (wrong acct #)

??MAY2011 - Received NOA1 hardcopy

25MAY2011 - Submitted corrected payment

01JUN2011 - Received NOA2 email; new priority date - June 1

04JUN2011 - Received NOA2 hard copy (no text)

30SEP2011 - Received NOA3 email of approval at 4:01p (4 months)

03OCT2011 - NOA3 hard copy posted in Vermont

05OCT2011 - Received NOA3 hard copy at VirtualPostMail (Calif.)

18OCT2011 - Petition forwarded from NVC to embassy

21OCT2011 - Embassy issued RFE of immigration status via snail

24OCT2011 - Obtained Case # from NVC via phone

07NOV2011 - Received embassy's RFE request and responded

14NOV2011 - Sent Packet 3; Received Packet 4 via email

24NOV2011 - Medical exam

28NOV2011 - Interview: APPROVED

02DEC2011 - Visa available for pickup

03DEC2011 - POE @ Peace Arch

07DEC2011 - Married

08DEC2011 - Posted AOS

17AUG2012 - Service Request (Over Processing Time)

01NOV2012 - Interview

09NOV2012 - Approved/Card Issued

--ADJUDICATION ESTIMATES--

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*7 months from Application to POE, exactly as advised from the start

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Goodness. There is so much bad and blatantly false advice in this post.

OP, Little_My outlined it perfectly for you.

If your spouse intended to stay, she cannot adjust status. She needs to return to her country and you guys need to file for a CR-1. As long as she leaves before her B-2 expires, she can continue to visit while it is processing.

If she did not intend to stay, you can file AOS. Some people don't "like" that but it's perfectly legal if she did not intend to stay.

You don't need a lawyer for any of the basic paperwork unless you have some other problem like criminal history. But you can of course get one if you want.

OUR TIMELINE

I am the USC, husband is adjusting from B2.

ADJUSTMENT OF STATUS

08.06.2010 - Sent off I-485
08.25.2010 - NOA hard copies received (x4), case status available online: 765, 131, 130.
10.15.2010 - RFE received: need 2 additional photos for AP.
10.18.2010 - RFE response sent certified mail
10.21.2010 - Service request placed for biometrics
10.25.2010 - RFE received per USCIS
10.26.2010 - Text/email received - AP approved!
10.28.2010 - Biometrics appointment received, dated 10/22 - set for 11/19 @ 3:00 PM
11.01.2010 - Successful biometrics walk-in @ 9:45 AM; EAD card sent for production text/email @ 2:47 PM! I-485 case status now available online.
11.04.2010 - Text/Email (2nd) - EAD card sent for production
11.08.2010 - Text/Email (3rd) - EAD approved
11.10.2010 - EAD received
12.11.2010 - Interview letter received - 01.13.11
01.13.2011 - Interview - no decision on the spot
01.24.2011 - Approved! Card production ordered!

REMOVAL OF CONDITIONS

11.02.2012 - Mailed I-751 packet to VSC
11.08.2012 - Checks cashed
11.10.2012 - NOA1 received, dated 11.06.2012
11.17.2012 - Biometrics letter received for 12.05.2012
11.23.2012 - Successful early biometrics walk-in

05.03.2013 - Approved! Card production ordered!

CITIZENSHIP

Filing in November 2013

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; Like everyone else, I also have an opinion. What I would do if I were you is to file CR-1 since you two are married.

She has to go back to her home country for +/- 5 months though, but it has a lot of good things:

- legal way to immigrate

- cheaper than hiring a laywer

- gets her GC right after she arrived back in the US

- can work right after she arrived back in the US

- she won't be an illegal alien and be aimed at as "immigration purpose on a Visitor Visa" which can give her a BAN.

Like I said, there are other options, it's up to you which path you'd like to follow, just don't make it harder as it is when she is here illegally.

Good luck!

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August 31th, 2011: applied for SS#
September 6th: received SS#
September 26th, 2011: AOS sent
September 30th, 2011: NOA1
October 6th, 2011: NOA1 hard copy
October 26th,2011: Biometrics
October 28th, 2011: case transferred to California for faster processing
December 5th, 2011: received EAD/AP card
February 22nd, 2012: Green card in production
February 27th, 2012: GREEN CARD in hand, yaaay!!!




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The CBP officer can make notes under your I-94 number that can be accessed during your AOS interview. If you came into the country and were questioned by the CBP officer and then during your AOS interview they do not parallel then you have just committed material misrepresentation.

For example:

CBP: what is your purpose in the US during your stay?

you: to visit Disney World and feed the dolphins!

CBP: do you have any family or a boyfriend in the US?

you: No, I just want to feed the dolphins!!

CBP: okay... (type, type, type)

6-months later...(version 1)

IO: how did you two meet?

you: we met while I was feeding dolphins!

IO: okay, odd..I mean interesting! (type, stamp, approved)

6-months later...(version 2)

IO: how did you two meet?

you: we met online, he came to my country and we got engaged and talked about feeding dolphins!

IO: OH, r..e..a..l..l..y...... (evil internal laugh)

Sorry, it's Friday and I am having wine.... :innocent: :innocent: :innocent:

I can tell you were having wine last night.

The first time my now-husband came over, he flat told the CBP officer he was coming to meet a woman he had met online. The guy told him he hoped he had a good time.

And they let him back in the country about 10 weeks later for another visit.

I'm not sure what you were trying to say. CBP making notes is not uncommon. Bottom line is if they REALLY think you are intending to immigrate, they will turn you around.

; Like everyone else, I also have an opinion. What I would do if I were you is to file CR-1 since you two are married.

She has to go back to her home country for +/- 5 months though, but it has a lot of good things:

- legal way to immigrate

- cheaper than hiring a laywer

- gets her GC right after she arrived back in the US

- can work right after she arrived back in the US

- she won't be an illegal alien and be aimed at as "immigration purpose on a Visitor Visa" which can give her a BAN.

Like I said, there are other options, it's up to you which path you'd like to follow, just don't make it harder as it is when she is here illegally.

Good luck!

As has been said earlier, what the OP proposes is legal.

Our journey together on this earth has come to an end.

I will see you one day again, my love.

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- legal way to immigrate

- cheaper than hiring a laywer

- gets her GC right after she arrived back in the US

- can work right after she arrived back in the US

- she won't be an illegal alien and be aimed at as "immigration purpose on a Visitor Visa" which can give her a BAN.

Good luck!

Everyone of course can have their opinion, but what you're stating here to back up your opinion isn't telling the whole story. Adjusting status is also a legal option so long as she did not intend to stay here when she arrived, she does not need a lawyer regardless, and she is not and will not become an illegal immigrant either way because she is still in her period of authorized stay as her B2 has not expired and once she files AOS she will be in a new period of authorized stay. Also, adjusting from a visitor visa is common and IOs see it every day, and it wouldn't warrant a ban unless she had proven intent to immigrate as well as other mitigating factors since intent alone is not used to deny.

I'm not sure what you were trying to say. CBP making notes is not uncommon. Bottom line is if they REALLY think you are intending to immigrate, they will turn you around.

Making notes isn't uncommon, but it's more a matter of being asked by CBP if you are planning to get married/etc. or if you have a partner in the country and blatantly lying about it, and then trying to adjust.

OUR TIMELINE

I am the USC, husband is adjusting from B2.

ADJUSTMENT OF STATUS

08.06.2010 - Sent off I-485
08.25.2010 - NOA hard copies received (x4), case status available online: 765, 131, 130.
10.15.2010 - RFE received: need 2 additional photos for AP.
10.18.2010 - RFE response sent certified mail
10.21.2010 - Service request placed for biometrics
10.25.2010 - RFE received per USCIS
10.26.2010 - Text/email received - AP approved!
10.28.2010 - Biometrics appointment received, dated 10/22 - set for 11/19 @ 3:00 PM
11.01.2010 - Successful biometrics walk-in @ 9:45 AM; EAD card sent for production text/email @ 2:47 PM! I-485 case status now available online.
11.04.2010 - Text/Email (2nd) - EAD card sent for production
11.08.2010 - Text/Email (3rd) - EAD approved
11.10.2010 - EAD received
12.11.2010 - Interview letter received - 01.13.11
01.13.2011 - Interview - no decision on the spot
01.24.2011 - Approved! Card production ordered!

REMOVAL OF CONDITIONS

11.02.2012 - Mailed I-751 packet to VSC
11.08.2012 - Checks cashed
11.10.2012 - NOA1 received, dated 11.06.2012
11.17.2012 - Biometrics letter received for 12.05.2012
11.23.2012 - Successful early biometrics walk-in

05.03.2013 - Approved! Card production ordered!

CITIZENSHIP

Filing in November 2013

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I can tell you were having wine last night.

The first time my now-husband came over, he flat told the CBP officer he was coming to meet a woman he had met online. The guy told him he hoped he had a good time.

And they let him back in the country about 10 weeks later for another visit.

I'm not sure what you were trying to say. CBP making notes is not uncommon. Bottom line is if they REALLY think you are intending to immigrate, they will turn you around.

As has been said earlier, what the OP proposes is legal.

Garfield was explaining misrepresentation at POE. When your husband came, he honestly told the CBP guy he was coming to see a woman, so there was no misrepresentation. Had he been asked "are you coming here to see a girl" and he had replied "no, there's no girl", that would have been misrepresentation.

Those statements are often written down by the CBP officers. Then, at the AOS stage applicants go above and beyond to show the length of their relationship to prove bonafide marriage - and woops, in the interview the IO pulls out a transcript of what the CBP officers typed into his computer when the intending immigrant entered the US. The immigrant's AOS paperwork shows transcripts of emails and chats and whatnots going back months before he/she entered the US, but yet when asked at POE, the intending immigrant had said there was no girl/boy in the US. Material misrepresentation, in black and white. Not that easy to come back from that.

Adjustment of Status from F-1 to Legal Permanent Resident

02/11/2011 Married at Manhattan City Hall

03/03/2011 - Day 0 - AOS -package mailed to Chicago Lockbox

03/04/2011 - Day 1 - AOS -package signed for at USCIS

03/09/2011 - Day 6 - E-mail notification received for all petitions

03/10/2011 - Day 7 - Checks cashed

03/11/2011 - Day 8 - NOA 1 received for all 4 forms

03/21/2011 - Day 18 - Biometrics letter received, biometrics scheduled for 04/14/2011

03/31/2011 - Day 28 - Successful walk-in biometrics done

05/12/2011 - Day 70 - EAD Arrived, issued on 05/02

06/14/2011 - Day 103 - E-mail notice: Interview letter mailed, interview scheduled for July 20th

07/20/2011 - Day 139 - Interview at Federal Plaza USCIS location

07/22/2011 - Day 141 - E-mail approval notice received (Card production)

07/27/2011 - Day 146 - 2nd Card Production Email received

07/28/2011 - Day 147 - Post-Decision Activity Email from USCIS

08/04/2011 - Day 154 - Husband returns home from abroad; Welcome Letter and GC have arrived in the mail

("Resident since" date on the GC is 07/20/2011

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Garfield was explaining misrepresentation at POE. When your husband came, he honestly told the CBP guy he was coming to see a woman, so there was no misrepresentation. Had he been asked "are you coming here to see a girl" and he had replied "no, there's no girl", that would have been misrepresentation.

Those statements are often written down by the CBP officers. Then, at the AOS stage applicants go above and beyond to show the length of their relationship to prove bonafide marriage - and woops, in the interview the IO pulls out a transcript of what the CBP officers typed into his computer when the intending immigrant entered the US. The immigrant's AOS paperwork shows transcripts of emails and chats and whatnots going back months before he/she entered the US, but yet when asked at POE, the intending immigrant had said there was no girl/boy in the US. Material misrepresentation, in black and white. Not that easy to come back from that.

Little_My, no offense but I've kind of been on immigration boards a few years. I work a pretty stressful job these days so I don't have time to hang around here much. You probably thought I don't know much about entry. So I appreciate the fact you want to help others. Since you want to do that, start looking beyond old wives tales and look into the facts.

Have you ever read of an adjustment case where the IO whips out a CBP transcript?

Seriously.

Our journey together on this earth has come to an end.

I will see you one day again, my love.

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Well, I am more than happy to admit no A) not being an immigration lawyer, and B) definitely not knowing everything there is to know about these processes - so, I'll gladly take advice and corrections from more knowledgeable members if something I state here is incorrect or just wrong. That is my understanding of misrepresentation at POE, and my understanding has also been that USCIS has full access to any notes taken at POE. If I was wrong about that, I stand corrected.

Also, just to note, I am not in the habit of listening to "old wives tales", here or anywhere else. I try my best to find legitimate and trustworthy sources when looking for information about immigration, or anything else for that matter. I also try my best to stay respectful towards other members here on VJ, even when I feel someone has made a statement I disagree with.

Adjustment of Status from F-1 to Legal Permanent Resident

02/11/2011 Married at Manhattan City Hall

03/03/2011 - Day 0 - AOS -package mailed to Chicago Lockbox

03/04/2011 - Day 1 - AOS -package signed for at USCIS

03/09/2011 - Day 6 - E-mail notification received for all petitions

03/10/2011 - Day 7 - Checks cashed

03/11/2011 - Day 8 - NOA 1 received for all 4 forms

03/21/2011 - Day 18 - Biometrics letter received, biometrics scheduled for 04/14/2011

03/31/2011 - Day 28 - Successful walk-in biometrics done

05/12/2011 - Day 70 - EAD Arrived, issued on 05/02

06/14/2011 - Day 103 - E-mail notice: Interview letter mailed, interview scheduled for July 20th

07/20/2011 - Day 139 - Interview at Federal Plaza USCIS location

07/22/2011 - Day 141 - E-mail approval notice received (Card production)

07/27/2011 - Day 146 - 2nd Card Production Email received

07/28/2011 - Day 147 - Post-Decision Activity Email from USCIS

08/04/2011 - Day 154 - Husband returns home from abroad; Welcome Letter and GC have arrived in the mail

("Resident since" date on the GC is 07/20/2011

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Well, I am more than happy to admit no A) not being an immigration lawyer, and B) definitely not knowing everything there is to know about these processes - so, I'll gladly take advice and corrections from more knowledgeable members if something I state here is incorrect or just wrong. That is my understanding of misrepresentation at POE, and my understanding has also been that USCIS has full access to any notes taken at POE. If I was wrong about that, I stand corrected.

Also, just to note, I am not in the habit of listening to "old wives tales", here or anywhere else. I try my best to find legitimate and trustworthy sources when looking for information about immigration, or anything else for that matter. I also try my best to stay respectful towards other members here on VJ, even when I feel someone has made a statement I disagree with.

CBP does make notes. USCIS has access to them, but not as easily as we think. You'd probably be surprised at the amount of authority/exchange of information/collaboration that does not exist between the different branches of the Department of Homeland Security.

That being said, there is case law which covers intent at the border as it relates to a petition to adjust status. I have no interest in the law firm linked, so I'm putting up their "layman's language" information for those interested in this discussion.

http://www.peerallylaw.com/en/content/view/562/

"Again, preconceived intent in and of itself is not a problem for immediate relative adjustments. Specifically, the adverse factor of preconceived intent is overcome by the "substantial (or significant) equities" present in immediate relative adjustments. This legal authority stems form Matter of Cavazos, 17 I&N Dec. 215 (BIA 1980). "Substantial equities" is further clarified in Matter of Ibrahim, 18 I&N Dec. 55 (BIA 1981)."

Our journey together on this earth has come to an end.

I will see you one day again, my love.

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The word "intent" will probably never be uttered at the interview.

I agree. It was definitely never mentioned in my interview. If they did plan to marry, then that is fraud. However,I feel like sometimes this forum can be a scary place for people who are trying to go through the process. Unless they go out of their way to let USCIS know they intended to marry, they will probably be OK. I don't condone fraud of course, but it seems like they just didn't know what they were doing.

AOS Timeline

06-28-2010 AOS Packet Sent

07-07-2010 Check Cashed $1010 Ugh!

07-09-2010 NOAs received (I-485,I-130,I-765)

07-14-2010 Biometrics appointment letter received

07-14-2010 RFE (I-864)

07-22-2010 Biometrics appointment

08-20-2010 Submitted RFE Reply I-864

08-24-2010 RFE material received

08-26-2010 Email from USCIS EAD Card Approved

09-03-2010 EAD card received!!!

09-08-2010 Notification of interview date (Oct 12th, 2010)

10-12-2010 Interview-Approved!!!!!

10-26-2010 Green Card Arrived!!!!!!!!

No USCIS till 2012. Wohoooooo

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