Real Love, but Real Problems?

[Glyn and Kathy 288]

uhhh no... then she would lose the food stamps amd social security.....

Actually, she would still be able to collect SSDI while living abroad. I don't believe SSI continues though.

[Julie y Pat 67]

Let's not forget that if using a cosponsor is allowed and he is admitted on a CR1, he WILL be able to work when he gets here. No one is going to force them to live on her disability benefits.

[Julie y Pat 67]

I don't think anyone's taxes were used to pay for her cruises, as they won't accept food stamps on a cruise ship. Completely ignore the response from Boiler, she has plenty of ties to the US, maybe not a lot of income, but I don't think it would be a lot simpler for her to move into crew's quarters on a cruise ship.

[EAbbas 213]

the fact that she would lie in court to obtain a divorce without following the state's requirements is a huge deal!!! It's lying to the judge, the court system and giving false information regarding her divorce.

How she can afford to go on cruises when she has no income and has food stamps is beyond me. I can't afford to take my children to eat at Mcdonalds on a regular bases and I just barely make above the 125% ....which had issues to verify for the embassy but in the end they approved it.

if the embassy finds out she lied to divorce her husband that will be the biggest red flag...

She is 13 yrs older and that will probably be an issue...maybe not... I know for me it was a glitch but in the end we have good evidence of bonafide relationship.

This seems like one of those situations that she needs to carefully weigh the options... there are so many obstacles here that will impact the relationship, the visa process and everything in between.

There is a chance it can work out but quite frankly I'm not sure how much...

It sounds like a bad episode of the old program THE LOVE BOAT...

[rika60607 215]

It is a common practice, I've been offered such a lie by a lawyer... I refused.

But apparently "separation" is a soft definition and so only the couple involved can determine when it really happened. So, if both husband and wife want out of the marriage, there is pretty much no way to prevent them from deciding when separation date occurred.

the fact that she would lie in court to obtain a divorce without following the state's requirements is a huge deal!!! It's lying to the judge, the court system and giving false information regarding her divorce.

[EAbbas 213]

It is a common practice, I've been offered such a lie by a lawyer... I refused.

But apparently "separation" is a soft definition and so only the couple involved can determine when it really happened. So, if both husband and wife want out of the marriage, there is pretty much no way to prevent them from deciding when separation date occurred.

Yes but i've also seen ppl on here that did just that and when interview time came it clearly showed the wife was still at the residence of the ex spouse and it came up on the background check as her address until such time...

I'm just saying its not a big deal to me personally but ive seen it happen that the background checks show her address as beign with the ex and it created really big issues at time of interview..

[rika60607 215]

I agree, ex's address would be a problem.

So, first divorce, then file I-129 or I-130, then some 6-9 months later comes interview date in Romania (for K-1 or CR-1 visa). Ideally, she should be out of ex's house from the date of divorce, at least.

They must find someone to co-sponsor, or his visa will be rejected. Or, if they pursue CR-1 after marriage he could use his assets in Romania to meet the poverty line requirement, that is if he has any assets.

Yes but i've also seen ppl on here that did just that and when interview time came it clearly showed the wife was still at the residence of the ex spouse and it came up on the background check as her address until such time...

I'm just saying its not a big deal to me personally but ive seen it happen that the background checks show her address as beign with the ex and it created really big issues at time of interview..

[EAbbas 213]

I agree, ex's address would be a problem.

So, first divorce, then file I-129 or I-130, then some 6-9 months later comes interview date in Romania (for K-1 or CR-1 visa). Ideally, she should be out of ex's house from the date of divorce, at least.

They must find someone to co-sponsor, or his visa will be rejected. Or, if they pursue CR-1 after marriage he could use his assets in Romania to meet the poverty line requirement, that is if he has any assets.

[bigdog 377]

Here, briefly, are the circumstances of this case. I think the odds that it is going to work out are slim to none but I don't know much about the immigration process so I am hoping someone else out there can tell me what they think the odds are of this couple getting the non-citizen into the U.S. legally.

They met in OCTOBER 2010, on a cruise ship where she was a passenger and he was a bartender.

They have been romantically involved since the cruise. When he went back to his home country of ROMANIA, they were in constant contact and there will be tons of evidence to that fact in phone bills, etc.

He returned to work on a cruise ship, at first on the west coast. Before he got on the ship they spent 2 weeks together in Los Angeles. She went on one cruise, as a full fare paying passenger on the LA based ship to spend time with him.

He transferred to a Jacksonville, Florida based cruise ship to be closer to her. She went on multiple cruises as a "crew family member" on this ship -- shouldn't be hard to get documentation or witnesses to this fact, either.

All of the above, I believe, indicate that they are in a bonafide relationship. Or at least SHE thinks they are!

Here are where I see the legal challenges coming up, and I fear they may be insurmountable:

This plan does not seem feasible, and red flags are everywhere. You have monetary guidelines issues etc . At best see an attorney, looks unpromising.

[Barbara J 115]

Yes but i've also seen ppl on here that did just that and when interview time came it clearly showed the wife was still at the residence of the ex spouse and it came up on the background check as her address until such time...

I'm just saying its not a big deal to me personally but ive seen it happen that the background checks show her address as beign with the ex and it created really big issues at time of interview..

Just want to add that I was till living in my ex house when my 129f was approved in Australia. I had just got divorced and we filed the next day was not an issue. I had no where to live so that's why I was still in my ex family home. So not sure that I agree with that statement.

One of the problems I see here in this case is the age difference a cruise romance. She is what 13 years older, on disability and a young Romanian man declares his love and wants to marry her. Sorry to be negative but I read Green card all over this.

Edited July 28, 2011 by Barbara J

[Princessblack 21]

Honestly the AOS is the main issue I see here, not so much the age diffrence cause people do truly fall in love. But why can't she get a job and work? They may think she can afford a cruise but can't afford to work or support him while he is in the US will be the issue.

[gigi_a 0]

I feel certain from what I've read that he just can't legally get a job and that even if he could the income doesn't count towards HER ability to meet the minimum income levels.

Actually the income of the foreign spouse can be counted towards the 125% poverty guideline IF it can reasonably expected that the foreign spouse will be receiving that income from the same employment. As well, normally, illegal employment if forgiven when dealing with a marriage based immigration I WOULDN'T advice that though given the circumstances.

[gigi_a 0]

One of the problems I see here in this case is the age difference a cruise romance. She is what 13 years older, on disability and a young Romanian man declares his love and wants to marry her. Sorry to be negative but I read Green card all over this.

I somewhat agree with this. Not in every case though age difference is a problem. My husbands is old enough to be my father, but we still got approved yesterday.

Of course, given their circumstances (cruise ship sailor,older woman,hasty marriage) may be this will be a larger red flag.

Even though my husband is the older one (somehow the stigma is not so big with the man being older),we met at worked, had been relationship in a relationship for a few yrs, lived together and later bought a house together while still not married, the interviewer still asked him if he was concerned that I married him just to stay in the States.

P.S I was not far away time-wise from applying for a work based GC too.

Tough situation and bad circumstances.

Edited July 28, 2011 by gigi_a

[Harsh_77 718]

Actually, she would still be able to collect SSDI while living abroad. I don't believe SSI continues though.

Yea u r right you still get the social security check while u are living out of US, just the food stamps go away.

[Harsh_77 718]

Let's not forget that if using a cosponsor is allowed and he is admitted on a CR1, he WILL be able to work when he gets here. No one is going to force them to live on her disability benefits.

Are you sure this is real deal?

You sure the guy is not doing it just to obtain easy entry to US?

There are 100s of such cases on this forum itself, ppl fall heads over heal thinking they are in love and then after marriage cannot stay even together for 8 months.

To me the whole deal looks RED..... she was not happy with her husband, mets a guy on cruise thinks is in love and now wants to seal the deal ASAP including lieing to judge.

Edited July 28, 2011 by Harsh_77