Are affidvaits required?

[ao_cons 1]

The form says "should cover but not limited to the following examples." Does this mean affidavits by friends or people we know are mandatory? We already have lease, birth cert of child, auto and health insurance, bank statements, joint tax return and invoices showing stuff we bought and delivered to our address. Also bills and photos. Are affidavits still necessary? The wording isn't clear to me because it says "examples."

Also can we use copies of tax returns we have? Or do we ask IRS for some official document?

[Moosker 7]

Copies of tax returns are fine. We provided an affidavit just to "beef up" our proof. It probably wasn't necessary, but it's worth it if you can get one. Also, it does not necessarily have to be notarized either.

[Ning 619]

The form says "should cover but not limited to the following examples." Does this mean affidavits by friends or people we know are mandatory? We already have lease, birth cert of child, auto and health insurance, bank statements, joint tax return and invoices showing stuff we bought and delivered to our address. Also bills and photos. Are affidavits still necessary? The wording isn't clear to me because it says "examples."

Also can we use copies of tax returns we have? Or do we ask IRS for some official document?

Copies of tax returns may not be accepted. They prove you filled out forms. The requirement is tax transcripts which prove you filed with the IRS. Obtain the transcripts by calling IRS or on line. You can ask for them to mail or fax & the service is free. Takes about 10 days by mail. BKK is difficult about these things. Dont take a chance with copies.

Affidavits are not mandatory & can prove to be worthless because anyone could manufacture them. It doesnt hurt to try it but I dont think they value them in BKK. A notary simply verifies the signature on a document. They have nothing to do with content.

[OBX 51]

Affidavits are not required; if your evidence is solid you should be fine without them. We are not including any.

I ordered tax transcripts by calling 800-908-9946, (the automated answering system M-F 7-10.) Received them in a week.

Good luck!

[Anh map 2,098]

Copies of tax returns may not be accepted. They prove you filled out forms. The requirement is tax transcripts which prove you filed with the IRS. Obtain the transcripts by calling IRS or on line. You can ask for them to mail or fax & the service is free. Takes about 10 days by mail. BKK is difficult about these things. Dont take a chance with copies.

Affidavits are not mandatory & can prove to be worthless because anyone could manufacture them. It doesnt hurt to try it but I dont think they value them in BKK. A notary simply verifies the signature on a document. They have nothing to do with content.

The embassy/consulate does not matter for Removal of Conditions.

Affidavits are not required. It sounds like you have good evidence.

[P&R 1]

The form says "should cover but not limited to the following examples." Does this mean affidavits by friends or people we know are mandatory? We already have lease, birth cert of child, auto and health insurance, bank statements, joint tax return and invoices showing stuff we bought and delivered to our address. Also bills and photos. Are affidavits still necessary? The wording isn't clear to me because it says "examples."

Also can we use copies of tax returns we have? Or do we ask IRS for some official document?

We didn't send any affidavits with our I-751.

Throughout the process so far, we've used copies of our tax returns. They show they were prepared at a tax agency and signed for by us and them. I've never used the transcripts. Also, being self-employed, I feel better they have all the relevant information with my tax paperwork. Also, I sent in the documents we received showing our refund was deposited into our joint checking account electronically and also the letters from IRS when they lost our refund check, the year before.

Good luck to you.

Edited March 15, 2011 by Paul&Rochelle

[christera22 8]

We are about to file for our ROC. In the AOS stage our affidavits proved in a different way . As we didnt have appartment lease in both our names we did provide affidavits from three of her friends and her daughter and the words were very realistic e.g. how they felt about me at 1st and how it changed etc etc. All the affidavits said where we live and since when . They also provided the affidavit signer`s name, address and phone number. The officer in our interview did say that he was impressed by the affidavits and he did read them several times.

Now every case is different so if you do not provide any affidavit that does not mean it may bite you.Your evidence list is good enough.

Regarding IRS we provided transcripts. Here is the IRS site link with the details. It is simple, easy and free .

IRS transcript link

Hope this helps. Thank you.

Edited March 15, 2011 by christera22

[sasaqlain 24]

A quick question. What should we request for when calling the IRS transcript helpline? The Account transcript or the Return Transcript?

I called and the lady asked me this question. I am not sure.

[OBX 51]

A quick question. What should we request for when calling the IRS transcript helpline? The Account transcript or the Return Transcript?

I called and the lady asked me this question. I am not sure.

We requested both but are submitting the account transcripts because they show any amendments or changes that were made since the initial filing. We had no issues ordering both; they were happy to send them both.

Edited March 16, 2011 by OBX

[ao_cons 1]

Thank you! Is there a fee for ordering the transcripts? Also how long after you file can you order them by phone?

[christera22 8]

A quick question. What should we request for when calling the IRS transcript helpline? The Account transcript or the Return Transcript?

I called and the lady asked me this question. I am not sure.

Hi Saspk bhai ...ideally in the AOS stage we asked for both. They were happy to send both. Hope everythings going great at your end.

Thank you! Is there a fee for ordering the transcripts? Also how long after you file can you order them by phone?

Nope its free. As soon as your tax return has been processed, which, if processed electronically should take only about a day, you can order a tax transcript.

Edited March 16, 2011 by christera22

[spookyturtle 9,465]

Copies of tax returns may not be accepted. They prove you filled out forms. The requirement is tax transcripts which prove you filed with the IRS. Obtain the transcripts by calling IRS or on line. You can ask for them to mail or fax & the service is free. Takes about 10 days by mail. BKK is difficult about these things. Dont take a chance with copies.

Affidavits are not mandatory & can prove to be worthless because anyone could manufacture them. It doesnt hurt to try it but I dont think they value them in BKK. A notary simply verifies the signature on a document. They have nothing to do with content.

If affidavits are so worthless why are they listed as a suggested form of evidence in the I-751 instructions?

[Ning 619]

If affidavits are so worthless why are they listed as a suggested form of evidence in the I-751 instructions?

"Affidavits are not mandatory & can prove to be worthless because anyone could manufacture them". Maybe you need to read this quote again. It indicates they are not required. It doesnt say no one should submit them. Affidavits would not be submitted to me. Its my opinion that they are worthless for the reason I gave. Anyone can write anything they want which could be viewed as pure fiction or as absolute fact. Who could or would distinguish between the two. You?

If you want to question the author of the instructions contact the USCIS office near you to inquire. If you want to submit affidavits then do so. I did not & was asked to.

Ahh map has corrected my error about the fact this is an AOS rather than a visa petition to BKK. I made that mistake in my understanding. Read his post.

[spookyturtle 9,465]

"Affidavits are not mandatory & can prove to be worthless because anyone could manufacture them". Maybe you need to read this quote again. It indicates they are not required. It doesnt say no one should submit them. Affidavits would not be submitted to me. Its my opinion that they are worthless for the reason I gave. Anyone can write anything they want which could be viewed as pure fiction or as absolute fact. Who could or would distinguish between the two. You?

If you want to question the author of the instructions contact the USCIS office near you to inquire. If you want to submit affidavits then do so. I did not & was asked to.

Ahh map has corrected my error about the fact this is an AOS rather than a visa petition to BKK. I made that mistake in my understanding. Read his post.

I don't need to reread anything. If USCIS thought they were so meaningless they wouldn't list them in the instructions. I don't have to determine if they are real or not, USCIS does. You can certainly chose not to include them but to state that they may be proven worthless is a bit ludicrous isn't it?

[Ning 619]

I don't need to reread anything. If USCIS thought they were so meaningless they wouldn't list them in the instructions. I don't have to determine if they are real or not, USCIS does. You can certainly chose not to include them but to state that they may be proven worthless is a bit ludicrous isn't it?

No. They are worthless unless the immigration officer has the people that signed them present to testify. None of us are going to be in a position to make another person do anything when it comes to their case. I have stated my opinion. If you dont agree its ok with me.

Edited March 16, 2011 by Ning