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I have a common problem. Mother in Law was denied a tourist visa. She has no bank account, house, not married.....We provided proof we could support her while here, but they didn't care. Who would be the best to contact to complain and maybe get help? Sate Rep. Local Rep. Congressman...I'm sure it will be a waste of time but i'd like to give it a try.

Separate question. Why can't she be put in my custody and make me responsible? I have permanent address, job, bank account. I have alot to lose if she dosen't return.

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The issue isn't proving your responsibility or ties to the US, it is proving HER ties to Peru. Until that changes, She'll be denied again - even with a Senator.

I'm sorry, it sounds like she just didn't have enough ties

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I have a common problem. Mother in Law was denied a tourist visa. She has no bank account, house, not married.....We provided proof we could support her while here, but they didn't care. Who would be the best to contact to complain and maybe get help? Sate Rep. Local Rep. Congressman...I'm sure it will be a waste of time but i'd like to give it a try.

Separate question. Why can't she be put in my custody and make me responsible? I have permanent address, job, bank account. I have alot to lose if she dosen't return.

...unfortunately I'm confronting a similar situation for my soon to be mother in law from Peru. We're in the process of gathering evidence...mine also has no bank account, house in her name and is not married. She has a 24 year long career and supports three fairly young children (that will not be coming along for the trip). We haven't been denied yet so I remain hopeful, but I'm really nervous about her prospects. I doubt it will help matters but I will also be contacting my representatives if she isn't approved.

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US govt cannot just go by your word (OP) they cannot just let her in the country and hold you responsible for her return. So if she jumps her visa, then its additional headache for US govt to search and hunt u.

If she has no strong ties to her home country, like not married, no property, retired etc - then why would she want to go back to her home country after her tourist visa expires?

Ohh and sorry Senator or a congresman neither cannot do anything, you cannot complain to anyone. Coz for tourist it is not their right to visit us as tourist.

Thats the job of ppl working in consulate to evaluate the situation and make the call to grant tourist visa or not to grant tourist visa.

Edited by Harsh_77

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US govt cannot just go by your word (OP) they cannot just let her in the country and hold you responsible for her return. So if she jumps her visa, then its additional headache for US govt to search and hunt u.

If she has no strong ties to her home country, like not married, no property, retired etc - then why would she want to go back to her home country after her tourist visa expires?

Ohh and sorry Senator or a congresman neither cannot do anything, you cannot complain to anyone. Coz for tourist it is not their right to visit us as tourist.

Thats the job of ppl working in consulate to evaluate the situation and make the call to grant tourist visa or not to grant tourist visa.

....damn. oh well, may as well try to get the visa, multiple times if need be.

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US govt cannot just go by your word (OP) they cannot just let her in the country and hold you responsible for her return. So if she jumps her visa, then its additional headache for US govt to search and hunt u.

If she has no strong ties to her home country, like not married, no property, retired etc - then why would she want to go back to her home country after her tourist visa expires?

Ohh and sorry Senator or a congresman neither cannot do anything, you cannot complain to anyone. Coz for tourist it is not their right to visit us as tourist.

Thats the job of ppl working in consulate to evaluate the situation and make the call to grant tourist visa or not to grant tourist visa.

Doesn't the court sometimes release people accused of committing crime into custody of other? These people are responsible for them not to flee and return for court appearance.

I have permanent house address and job. They can easily find me and throw me in jail or something if she doesn't return home. She's my MIL, I guarantee she will go home. :)

Her only ties to Peru are her whole family except her one daughter of course. I guess this is not enough?

It would save me A LOT of money to buy one plane ticket for her to come here instead of 4 for my family to go there.

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How can you guarantee she would return?


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...unfortunately I'm confronting a similar situation for my soon to be mother in law from Peru. We're in the process of gathering evidence...mine also has no bank account, house in her name and is not married. She has a 24 year long career and supports three fairly young children (that will not be coming along for the trip). We haven't been denied yet so I remain hopeful, but I'm really nervous about her prospects. I doubt it will help matters but I will also be contacting my representatives if she isn't approved.

Bank account is only of minor importance. It is not really a "tie" - money can easily be moved. Since she does not own property, family and social ties are very important. Career also. Supporting the 3 young children is a very strong tie.


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Bank account is only of minor importance. It is not really a "tie" - money can easily be moved. Since she does not own property, family and social ties are very important. Career also. Supporting the 3 young children is a very strong tie.

Thanks for the advice...so what's a good way to show/document family and social ties for the B2 visa? We have docs that prove her career (recent pay stub, letter of employment dated in 1986) but I was wondering if/how we should attempt to document the other ties.

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You have identified the crux of the problem. No real controls on those who enter complying with the terms of their entry.

Hence over focus at the visa issuance stage.


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Doesn't the court sometimes release people accused of committing crime into custody of other? These people are responsible for them not to flee and return for court appearance.

I have permanent house address and job. They can easily find me and throw me in jail or something if she doesn't return home. She's my MIL, I guarantee she will go home. :)

Her only ties to Peru are her whole family except her one daughter of course. I guess this is not enough?

It would save me A LOT of money to buy one plane ticket for her to come here instead of 4 for my family to go there.

Sorry buddy, but immigration does not look like that - coz there are more ppl waiting in line to enter the country (legally), lets not even go to illegally.

So immigration has to control the flow of ppl somehow and in past ppl have abused the visa granted to them and abused the loop holes in the system.

Anyone can easliy change a job and residence in 6 months :)

So how do they track you?

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That was just a joke. She's my mother in law. I'll drag her on to the plane to get her to go home again.

You cannot accompany her to the boarding gate, so how are you going to 'drag' her on the plane? You do not have legal authority over her...period. Our laws don't have some specific clause in them that allows some kind of magic transferrence of custody from one person over another.

And congressmen/senators hold no sway over the consular officials...they are not empowered to 'order' them to issue a visa, nor do anything else, except answer their letters!

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A visitor visa is a privilege for a foreign national. There is no right to a visitor visa even if there are family members who are US citizens.

The US Embassy/Consulate has sole authority in its discretion to grant visitor visas. The decision cannot be appealed or complained about.

Furthermore, the US government explicitly does not accept "guarantees" from anyone that a visitor will leave.

You cannot "drag" your mother onto the plane. That's battery. What authority would give you the right to "drag" another person anywhere? The "guarantee" would not give you any legal right to detain a person, much less force the person onto a plane. Since you have no legal authority over your mother, your "guarantee" is worthless, and that is why the US government does not accept "guarantees."

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Immigration law delegates the responsibility for issuance or refusal of visas to consular officers overseas. They have the final say on all visa cases. By regulation the U.S. Department of State has authority to review consular decisions, but this authority is limited to the interpretation of law, as contrasted to determinations of facts. The question at issue in such denials, whether an applicant possesses the required residence abroad, is a factual one. Therefore, it falls exclusively within the authority of consular officers at our Foreign Service posts to resolve. An applicant can influence the post to change a prior visa denial only through the presentation of new convincing evidence of strong ties.

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This thread is almost a year old, presumably OP has already decided what to do about seeing their MIL


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