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Do I need to apply for my SSN before we apply for our marriage license? I looked up the requirements for a marriage license in Minnesota and it says to bring ID and SSN (plus there's a 5 day waiting period). I've noticed a lot of people arrive on their K1 visa and get married shortly after. Do you not need a SSN to get married or does it vary from state to state. Anyone know how that works? Will we have to wait to get our marriage license after I apply and receive my SSN? We wanted to get married as soon as we could after I get there so my Mom and sister (they're helping me move) can be there for the ceremony instead of having to go home then travel back in a few weeks.

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2010-01-05: Got engaged 2011-05-14: AOS, EAD, AP Package Sent
2010-03-09: Sent I-129F package 2011-05-16: AOS, EAD, AP Package Received
2010-03-15: NOA 1 2011-05-20: NOA 1 for AOS, EAD, AP
2010-06-08: RFE issued 2011-06-13: Transferred to CSC
2010-06-18: Returned info for RFE 2011-06-17: Biometrics Appointment
2010-07-25: Denied I-129F 2011-07-22: EAD/AP Approved
2010-08-13: Sent appeal 2011-07-27: AOS Approved
2010-08-24: NOA 2
2010-11-05: Packet 3 returned to Vancouver
2010-12-01: Medical
2010-12-01: Interview-APPROVED!!
2010-12-15: Visa received
2011-02-18: POE North Portal/Portal
2011-03-18: Got Married!

ROC Timeline
2013-06-20: ROC Package Sent

2013-06-24: ROC Package Received

2013-06-24: NOA 1

2013-07-25: Biometrics Appointment

2013-09-04: ROC Approved

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The main reason a K-1 can get SSN, and the other K-Visas (K-2,3 and 4) cannot get SSN is the reason you indicated, some states require SSN before they will issue a marriage license.

So yes if MN requires SSN, then go to SSA and apply for a number, and then when you have the card, get a marriage license.

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I am having a problem believing that MN requires a SSN to get married. That would prevent any tourist to get married in MN. I know in the U.K. you need a special visa in order to get married, but I haven't heard that from any US State. Would be interesting to know for sure.

That aside, I would definitely get a SSN as soon as possible, which typically is about 10 to 14 days after arrival in the US.

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I got married in North Carolina, and since i didn't have a SSN then, i had to sign a waiver stating i didn't have one. check with your local SS office, they may have something similar there.

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8/31/10: Case Status Appears On USCIS Site

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10/23/10: Biometric Letter Received For Nov 15 App

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11/16/10: Card Production Ordered.....I-485 & I-765 Touched

11/19/10: Card Production text and email received again for I-765. I-765 Touched

11/23/10: EAD Received

11/29/10: Applied for ID and SS card

12/04/10: SS card and AOS Interview Letter received

01/04/11: AOS Interview..APPROVED!!!

01/13/11: Green Card Received

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10/17/12: Check cashed, but no NOA1 yet.

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This is why i reckon a trip to vegas would be a grand idea as you only need your passport there and your good to go haha plus you can have your honeymoon there :)



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07/16/10- NOA1 Hardcopy
12/15/10- NOA2 Hardcopy Received
02/16/11- Interview at 10am London Embassy
02/24/11- Visa in Hand
02/27/11- POE - Minneapolis

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04/22/11- AOS, EAD, AP sent today
04/28/11- AOS, EAD, AP Notice Date
05/04/11- Hard copy of NOA1 for AOS, EAD, AP
05/12/11- Early Biometric walk in(Scheduled for 05/31/2011)
05/12/11- I-485 Case Transferred to CSC
06/13/11- AOS approved, card production ordered
06/20/11- Green Card Recieved

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04/25/13- ROC package sent

04/26/13- ROC pack delivered

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Solution simple--marry in a state other than MN (Pras and I married in MI, which doesn't).

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2005/12/02 Packet-3 received from Chennai

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2006/04/04 Pras' entry into US at DTW

2006/04/15 Church Wedding at Novi (Detroit suburb), MI

2006/05/01 AOS Packet (I-485/I-131/I-765) filed at Chicago

2006/08/23 AP and EAD approved. Two down, 1.5 to go

2006/10/13 Pras' I-485 interview--APPROVED!

2006/10/27 Pras' conditional GC arrives -- .5 to go (2 yrs to Conditions Removal)

2008/07/21 I-751 (conditions removal) filed

2008/08/22 I-751 biometrics completed

2009/06/18 I-751 approved

2009/07/03 10-year GC received; last 0.5 done!

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I would give the court house where you will be going to get the license a call or email. All the places i checked in Maryland said that I would require a ssn but when i emailed them they said that SSN are only required IF you are a US citizen.

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I am almost positive they cannot require you to have a SSN number to get married, this is a more recent change. Even if they say they require it they will not need it for someone who doesn't have one. So if you have one provide it, if not don't.

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Thank you so much for all your replies. I will definitely be calling to find out. Thanks again!!

K1 Journey AOS Timeline
2010-01-05: Got engaged 2011-05-14: AOS, EAD, AP Package Sent
2010-03-09: Sent I-129F package 2011-05-16: AOS, EAD, AP Package Received
2010-03-15: NOA 1 2011-05-20: NOA 1 for AOS, EAD, AP
2010-06-08: RFE issued 2011-06-13: Transferred to CSC
2010-06-18: Returned info for RFE 2011-06-17: Biometrics Appointment
2010-07-25: Denied I-129F 2011-07-22: EAD/AP Approved
2010-08-13: Sent appeal 2011-07-27: AOS Approved
2010-08-24: NOA 2
2010-11-05: Packet 3 returned to Vancouver
2010-12-01: Medical
2010-12-01: Interview-APPROVED!!
2010-12-15: Visa received
2011-02-18: POE North Portal/Portal
2011-03-18: Got Married!

ROC Timeline
2013-06-20: ROC Package Sent

2013-06-24: ROC Package Received

2013-06-24: NOA 1

2013-07-25: Biometrics Appointment

2013-09-04: ROC Approved

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Been reported in the news often.

NASHVILLE, Tenn. - A federal law that requires people to supply their Social Security number when applying for a marriage license has forced thousands of couples around the country, particularly illegal immigrants, to put their wedding plans on hold.

The law has been on the books for about a decade and was intended to make it easier to collect child support payments. But in some places it has prevented even legal immigrants and some American citizens from getting married.

Some couples are traveling to other states or other counties willing to issue them marriage licenses.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1865107/posts

Under federal law 42 USC Chapter 7, Subchapter IV, Part D, Sec. 666(a)(13), enacted in 1996 to improve child support compliance.

(13) Recording of social security numbers in certain family matters.— Procedures requiring that the social security number of—

(A) any applicant for a professional license, driver’s license, occupational license, recreational license, or marriage license be recorded on the application;

http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/42/usc_sec_42_00000666----000-.html

Many states take that law literally and REQUIRE SSN from any applicant for any "License" be it for marriage, fishing, driving, etc...

Again this IS why K-1 is allowed to get SSN within the 90 days of entry on the visa. K-2 and K-4 are children and are not getting married, and K-3 is already married so do not need SSN.

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OUR TIME LINE Please do a timeline it helps us all, thanks.

Is now a US Citizen immigration completed Jan 12, 2012.

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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Kenya
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I would recommend you to try to get a SSN before you get married. A lot of K-1's are complaining about not being able to get a SSN after they get married because the SSA denies them and the K-1 ends up having to wait until AOS paperwork is approved to be able to get a SSN.

ROC:
07/2010....Attorney mailed I-751 divorce waiver
07/21/10...USCIS recvd I-751
07/21/10...NOA1
08/20/10...Bio completed
09/16/10...Recvd RFE, due 10/31
10/26/10...Mailed RFE
10/27/10...RFE delivered to VSC
04/26/11...Interview
05/11/11...APPROVED!!
05/18/11...Card production ordered
05/23/11...Received green card



N400:
04/29/13.. Eligible to file N400
04/26/13...Mailed N400..Dallas, TX
04/28/13...USPS delivered package (Priority mail)
04/29/13...NOA Priority date
05/02/13...Check cashed
05/10/13...Rcvd bio notice
05/30/13...Bio Appt
05/17/13...Walk in bio successful
06/28/13...Placed in line for interview scheduling
08/06/13...Recvd email interview has been scheduled
08/10/13...Recvd Interview letter
09/12/13...N400 Interview
09/12/13...Decision cannot be made
10/21/14...Biometrics (second time)
01/05/15...In line for oath scheduling

01/21/15...Oath Ceremony

01/21/15...Applied Passport

02/05/15..Received Passport

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When gathering information online, please remember that the vast majority of people they are advising are USC or LPRs. They cannot possibly provide information for every given scenario, especially when you consider how tiny the number of K-1 visa entrants are compared to other visa holders.

I happened to already have a SSN but still asked at the courthouse, if people didn't have one, were they allowed to apply for a marriage license. The answer was if you have one, you legally have to use it but anyone can get married with proof of ID alone.

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