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Filed: AOS (pnd) Country: India
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It was denied basically due to the USCIS not getting everything they wanted with the RFE.

The RFE was unclearly worded. It asked for the birth certificate copy and/or translated English (copy). As my husband's birth certificate is in English we thought that it has been misplaced by USCIS or that somehow we had not included it originally despite multiple checks.

They say in the denial that they wanted a copy of the "original." It is available in Hindi as well from the office in his home city, but he has always used the English version and has used it all the way through the visa process.

He recieved the denial today, what can we do next on our own? (Hiring an attorney is an obvious step.)

What should we expect next?

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Our Timeline

Met online: 2005-08

Met in person the first time: 2007-11-11 <3

2008

December I-129F Sent: 2008-12-18 | I-129F NOA1: 2008-12-24

2009

April Our baby is born: 2009-04 <3<3<3

May CRBA* Interview: 2009-05 *Consular Report of Birth Abroad

July I-129F NOA2 : 2009-07-08 | NVC Received:2009-07-17 | Baby & Mommy returned to the U.S. 2009-07-20

August Consulate Received : 2009-08-06

September Packet 3 Received : 2009-09-09

Notified Case will be transfered: 2009-9-10

October Case transfered from New Delhi to Mumbai 2009-10-23 | Packet 3 received FROM MUMBAI: 2009-10-31

November Packet 3 Returned to Mumbai: 2009-11-03 | Packet 4/Interview Letter Received by EMAIL: 2009-11-23 | Documents Submitted: 2009-11-30

December Interview: 2009-12-09 (Result: 221g - Get joint sponsor)

2010

January -Joint Sponsor Documents Submitted- | Visa Issued :)2010-01

February Arrived in U.S. 2010-02 :) <3 | Married: 2010-02 <3

April Filed AOS(Rec. by USCIS): 2010-04-23

June Biometrics Appointment: 2010-06-02 | RFE: 2010-06-02 Request for copy of foreign BC;

Evidence Rec. by USCIS- 2010-06-07 | Denied*- 2010-06-08 :(*Due ultimately to USCIS error/claims foreign BC is translation

Currently: Refiling :(

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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Brazil
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Can you just get a copy of the birth certificate in Hindi and submit that with the English version? It seems like that is all they want. Hopefully submitting that would lead to an approval. Did they give you a chance to submit it within a certain time frame or are they insisting that you start all over?

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Filed: AOS (pnd) Country: India
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Can you just get a copy of the birth certificate in Hindi and submit that with the English version? It seems like that is all they want. Hopefully submitting that would lead to an approval. Did they give you a chance to submit it within a certain time frame or are they insisting that you start all over?

No, it seems to be a flat-out denial.

Our Timeline

Met online: 2005-08

Met in person the first time: 2007-11-11 <3

2008

December I-129F Sent: 2008-12-18 | I-129F NOA1: 2008-12-24

2009

April Our baby is born: 2009-04 <3<3<3

May CRBA* Interview: 2009-05 *Consular Report of Birth Abroad

July I-129F NOA2 : 2009-07-08 | NVC Received:2009-07-17 | Baby & Mommy returned to the U.S. 2009-07-20

August Consulate Received : 2009-08-06

September Packet 3 Received : 2009-09-09

Notified Case will be transfered: 2009-9-10

October Case transfered from New Delhi to Mumbai 2009-10-23 | Packet 3 received FROM MUMBAI: 2009-10-31

November Packet 3 Returned to Mumbai: 2009-11-03 | Packet 4/Interview Letter Received by EMAIL: 2009-11-23 | Documents Submitted: 2009-11-30

December Interview: 2009-12-09 (Result: 221g - Get joint sponsor)

2010

January -Joint Sponsor Documents Submitted- | Visa Issued :)2010-01

February Arrived in U.S. 2010-02 :) <3 | Married: 2010-02 <3

April Filed AOS(Rec. by USCIS): 2010-04-23

June Biometrics Appointment: 2010-06-02 | RFE: 2010-06-02 Request for copy of foreign BC;

Evidence Rec. by USCIS- 2010-06-07 | Denied*- 2010-06-08 :(*Due ultimately to USCIS error/claims foreign BC is translation

Currently: Refiling :(

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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Brazil
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No, it seems to be a flat-out denial.

Wow! Sorry to hear that. It seems really harsh. I guess it has something to do with submitting the RFE in the correct timeframe. I saw what you posted--it is really confusing the way they worded it. I hope you can find a solution soon.

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Filed: AOS (pnd) Country: India
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Wow! Sorry to hear that. It seems really harsh. I guess it has something to do with submitting the RFE in the correct timeframe. I saw what you posted--it is really confusing the way they worded it. I hope you can find a solution soon.

I had 85 days, sent it within a week (and they got it within a week). Definately harsh...

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Our Timeline

Met online: 2005-08

Met in person the first time: 2007-11-11 <3

2008

December I-129F Sent: 2008-12-18 | I-129F NOA1: 2008-12-24

2009

April Our baby is born: 2009-04 <3<3<3

May CRBA* Interview: 2009-05 *Consular Report of Birth Abroad

July I-129F NOA2 : 2009-07-08 | NVC Received:2009-07-17 | Baby & Mommy returned to the U.S. 2009-07-20

August Consulate Received : 2009-08-06

September Packet 3 Received : 2009-09-09

Notified Case will be transfered: 2009-9-10

October Case transfered from New Delhi to Mumbai 2009-10-23 | Packet 3 received FROM MUMBAI: 2009-10-31

November Packet 3 Returned to Mumbai: 2009-11-03 | Packet 4/Interview Letter Received by EMAIL: 2009-11-23 | Documents Submitted: 2009-11-30

December Interview: 2009-12-09 (Result: 221g - Get joint sponsor)

2010

January -Joint Sponsor Documents Submitted- | Visa Issued :)2010-01

February Arrived in U.S. 2010-02 :) <3 | Married: 2010-02 <3

April Filed AOS(Rec. by USCIS): 2010-04-23

June Biometrics Appointment: 2010-06-02 | RFE: 2010-06-02 Request for copy of foreign BC;

Evidence Rec. by USCIS- 2010-06-07 | Denied*- 2010-06-08 :(*Due ultimately to USCIS error/claims foreign BC is translation

Currently: Refiling :(

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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Brazil
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I had 85 days, sent it within a week (and they got it within a week). Definately harsh...

I understand. I was thinking that maybe because the Hindi birth certificate was not submitted within the 85 days they denied it. Although it seems like they would have notified you again with another RFE. Maybe there is a process for appealing a denied AOS or just file again? I'm not sure. If you have the ability to get advice from a lawyer I would suggest that..maybe someone who can just advise you without actually representing you. Good luck!

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Filed: Citizen (pnd) Country: Indonesia
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Wait, so instead of sending a second RFE, they just flat-out gave you a denial?

I mean.. it's one thing if you failed to respond to the RFE, but you did!

Maybe you should try to schedule an infopass and explain the misunderstanding?

I'm so sorry this happened, and best of luck to you, hope you can find a solution soon!

AOS 05/08/10 - sent05/14/10 - receipt date on NOAs - transferred to National Benefits Center06/14/10 - Biometrics Done - Lawrence, MA (original appt)07/26/10 - Interview - APPROVED!!07/30/10 - Welcome letter rec'd (notice date: 07/26)08/05/10 - Green Card (&EAD) Received! - 2 months and 28 days total!ROC 04/28/12 - ROC package sent05/03/12 - check cashed05/04/12 - NOA1 received - dated 05/01/1206/07/12 - Biometrics done02/07/13 - Approved (status update via text msg)02/14/13 - Ten year Green card receivedNaturalization07/26/13 - eligible (90 day window opened 4/27/13)02/24/14 - N-400 sent to Dallas03/04/14 - Check cashed & case accepted (update via txt & email)03/10/14 - Biometrics appt letter rec'd (scheduled for 03/28/13)03/28/14 - Biometrics done04/01/14 - In line for interview 04/03/14 - Case status change to scheduled for interview04/10/14 - interview letter rec'd 5/13/14 - interview 6/3/14 - in line for oath 6/30/14 - Scheduled for oath
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I would contact your congressman and your two senators (Look up and call the local office). Speak with their immigration helper staff members about your situation. After you have spoken to them (or given up waiting for a call back) select one, and go through the process of filling out a privacy form, and writing a formal letter asking them to look into the matter. I'm sure the staffer will help you with what they need. At the least, give them your names, dates of birth, A number, case number, and a copy of the RFE and the BC that you sent in. I have read up on other VJers experiences with their congressmen, and in problems like this, where the reopening/reconsidering of a case is a matter of discretion of an immigration official, your representative to the federal government has more pull than you ever will to make that discretion work for you (see buster2009's thread on the subject).

In parallel, acquire all documents which could even loosely be described as "original" birth certificates. When your rep's staffer speaks with the immigration officer on your behalf, they can even have these documents in hand and offer to send them along.

I think there is a good chance that your case will be back on track soon!

K-1:

January 28, 2009: NOA1

June 4, 2009: Interview - APPROVED!!!

October 11, 2009: Wedding

AOS:

December 23, 2009: NOA1!

January 22, 2010: Bogus RFE corrected through congressional inquiry "EAD waiting on biometrics only" Read about it here.

March 15, 2010: AOS interview - RFE for I-693 vaccination supplement - CS signed part 6!

March 27, 2010: Green Card recieved

ROC:

March 1, 2012: Mailed ROC package

March 7, 2012: Tracking says "notice left"...after a phone call to post office.

More detailed time line in profile.

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Filed: AOS (pnd) Country: India
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I would contact your congressman and your two senators (Look up and call the local office). Speak with their immigration helper staff members about your situation. After you have spoken to them (or given up waiting for a call back) select one, and go through the process of filling out a privacy form, and writing a formal letter asking them to look into the matter. I'm sure the staffer will help you with what they need. At the least, give them your names, dates of birth, A number, case number, and a copy of the RFE and the BC that you sent in. I have read up on other VJers experiences with their congressmen, and in problems like this, where the reopening/reconsidering of a case is a matter of discretion of an immigration official, your representative to the federal government has more pull than you ever will to make that discretion work for you (see buster2009's thread on the subject).

In parallel, acquire all documents which could even loosely be described as "original" birth certificates. When your rep's staffer speaks with the immigration officer on your behalf, they can even have these documents in hand and offer to send them along.

I think there is a good chance that your case will be back on track soon!

Thank you very much, I will do everything I can!

Our Timeline

Met online: 2005-08

Met in person the first time: 2007-11-11 <3

2008

December I-129F Sent: 2008-12-18 | I-129F NOA1: 2008-12-24

2009

April Our baby is born: 2009-04 <3<3<3

May CRBA* Interview: 2009-05 *Consular Report of Birth Abroad

July I-129F NOA2 : 2009-07-08 | NVC Received:2009-07-17 | Baby & Mommy returned to the U.S. 2009-07-20

August Consulate Received : 2009-08-06

September Packet 3 Received : 2009-09-09

Notified Case will be transfered: 2009-9-10

October Case transfered from New Delhi to Mumbai 2009-10-23 | Packet 3 received FROM MUMBAI: 2009-10-31

November Packet 3 Returned to Mumbai: 2009-11-03 | Packet 4/Interview Letter Received by EMAIL: 2009-11-23 | Documents Submitted: 2009-11-30

December Interview: 2009-12-09 (Result: 221g - Get joint sponsor)

2010

January -Joint Sponsor Documents Submitted- | Visa Issued :)2010-01

February Arrived in U.S. 2010-02 :) <3 | Married: 2010-02 <3

April Filed AOS(Rec. by USCIS): 2010-04-23

June Biometrics Appointment: 2010-06-02 | RFE: 2010-06-02 Request for copy of foreign BC;

Evidence Rec. by USCIS- 2010-06-07 | Denied*- 2010-06-08 :(*Due ultimately to USCIS error/claims foreign BC is translation

Currently: Refiling :(

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Filed: AOS (pnd) Country: India
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I am linking Buster's thread in case anyone else runs into a similar problem: http://www.visajourney.com/forums/topic/237821-application-denied/

Good luck friends, please wish us the best!

Our Timeline

Met online: 2005-08

Met in person the first time: 2007-11-11 <3

2008

December I-129F Sent: 2008-12-18 | I-129F NOA1: 2008-12-24

2009

April Our baby is born: 2009-04 <3<3<3

May CRBA* Interview: 2009-05 *Consular Report of Birth Abroad

July I-129F NOA2 : 2009-07-08 | NVC Received:2009-07-17 | Baby & Mommy returned to the U.S. 2009-07-20

August Consulate Received : 2009-08-06

September Packet 3 Received : 2009-09-09

Notified Case will be transfered: 2009-9-10

October Case transfered from New Delhi to Mumbai 2009-10-23 | Packet 3 received FROM MUMBAI: 2009-10-31

November Packet 3 Returned to Mumbai: 2009-11-03 | Packet 4/Interview Letter Received by EMAIL: 2009-11-23 | Documents Submitted: 2009-11-30

December Interview: 2009-12-09 (Result: 221g - Get joint sponsor)

2010

January -Joint Sponsor Documents Submitted- | Visa Issued :)2010-01

February Arrived in U.S. 2010-02 :) <3 | Married: 2010-02 <3

April Filed AOS(Rec. by USCIS): 2010-04-23

June Biometrics Appointment: 2010-06-02 | RFE: 2010-06-02 Request for copy of foreign BC;

Evidence Rec. by USCIS- 2010-06-07 | Denied*- 2010-06-08 :(*Due ultimately to USCIS error/claims foreign BC is translation

Currently: Refiling :(

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Filed: AOS (pnd) Country: India
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An update:

Went to Infopass today but it was of no help. Although they agreed that it was a mistake they said nothing could be done and advised us to file for a motion. Basically told us what we already knew. Not to happy with the idea of paying them again for their own mistake! Off to see what I can do next before handing them more money...

Our Timeline

Met online: 2005-08

Met in person the first time: 2007-11-11 <3

2008

December I-129F Sent: 2008-12-18 | I-129F NOA1: 2008-12-24

2009

April Our baby is born: 2009-04 <3<3<3

May CRBA* Interview: 2009-05 *Consular Report of Birth Abroad

July I-129F NOA2 : 2009-07-08 | NVC Received:2009-07-17 | Baby & Mommy returned to the U.S. 2009-07-20

August Consulate Received : 2009-08-06

September Packet 3 Received : 2009-09-09

Notified Case will be transfered: 2009-9-10

October Case transfered from New Delhi to Mumbai 2009-10-23 | Packet 3 received FROM MUMBAI: 2009-10-31

November Packet 3 Returned to Mumbai: 2009-11-03 | Packet 4/Interview Letter Received by EMAIL: 2009-11-23 | Documents Submitted: 2009-11-30

December Interview: 2009-12-09 (Result: 221g - Get joint sponsor)

2010

January -Joint Sponsor Documents Submitted- | Visa Issued :)2010-01

February Arrived in U.S. 2010-02 :) <3 | Married: 2010-02 <3

April Filed AOS(Rec. by USCIS): 2010-04-23

June Biometrics Appointment: 2010-06-02 | RFE: 2010-06-02 Request for copy of foreign BC;

Evidence Rec. by USCIS- 2010-06-07 | Denied*- 2010-06-08 :(*Due ultimately to USCIS error/claims foreign BC is translation

Currently: Refiling :(

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Filed: AOS (apr) Country: Italy
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An update:

Went to Infopass today but it was of no help. Although they agreed that it was a mistake they said nothing could be done and advised us to file for a motion. Basically told us what we already knew. Not to happy with the idea of paying them again for their own mistake! Off to see what I can do next before handing them more money...

Congressman seems to be the next step! Good luck!

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AOS Journey

Marriage: 2010-03-06

Date Filed: 2010-03-23

NOA: 2010-04-02 (via texts and emails)+check cashed

NOA1 in the mail: 2010-04-07

Bio Appointment letter: 04/29 (FINALLY!!!!)

Bio Appointment: scheduled 05/24, walk-in on 05/03, yay!

**Touch on AOS and EAD: 05/03 and 05/04

Interview notice: 05/14, dated 05/11. It's for 06/17

EAD and AP approved: 06/03

**Touch on EAD and AP: 06/04

**Touch on AP: 06/07

**Touch on EAD and 2nd card production ordered: 06/08

**Touch on EAD: 06/09

AP received: 06/09

**Touch on EAD: 06/11. 3rd approval email received!

EAD received: 06/11 step 2 of 3 completed!

Interview scheduled: 06/17 @ 915 am APPROVED and card production ordered same day!!!!

Welcome letter received:06/21

2nd email Green Card production ordered:06/22

**Touch on AOS:06/23

3rd email received, blue dot went to post decision: 06/30

Tik tok tik tok....GREEN CARD IN HAND: 07/02!!!!!Less than a year since filing for the k1!

K1 Journey

I-129F Sent: 2009-08-12

I-129F NOA1: 2009-08-14

I-129F NOA2: 2009-10-29

Packet 3 Received: 2009-11-17

Interview: 2010-02-16, approved, visa the same day!

POE: 2010-03-03 @ LAX

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Filed: AOS (pnd) Country: India
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New Update:

My senator's office returned my call and asked me to send them a brief letter and the privacy form and they will work on reopening the case! I was pleased with the quick response. I hope all goes well!

Our Timeline

Met online: 2005-08

Met in person the first time: 2007-11-11 <3

2008

December I-129F Sent: 2008-12-18 | I-129F NOA1: 2008-12-24

2009

April Our baby is born: 2009-04 <3<3<3

May CRBA* Interview: 2009-05 *Consular Report of Birth Abroad

July I-129F NOA2 : 2009-07-08 | NVC Received:2009-07-17 | Baby & Mommy returned to the U.S. 2009-07-20

August Consulate Received : 2009-08-06

September Packet 3 Received : 2009-09-09

Notified Case will be transfered: 2009-9-10

October Case transfered from New Delhi to Mumbai 2009-10-23 | Packet 3 received FROM MUMBAI: 2009-10-31

November Packet 3 Returned to Mumbai: 2009-11-03 | Packet 4/Interview Letter Received by EMAIL: 2009-11-23 | Documents Submitted: 2009-11-30

December Interview: 2009-12-09 (Result: 221g - Get joint sponsor)

2010

January -Joint Sponsor Documents Submitted- | Visa Issued :)2010-01

February Arrived in U.S. 2010-02 :) <3 | Married: 2010-02 <3

April Filed AOS(Rec. by USCIS): 2010-04-23

June Biometrics Appointment: 2010-06-02 | RFE: 2010-06-02 Request for copy of foreign BC;

Evidence Rec. by USCIS- 2010-06-07 | Denied*- 2010-06-08 :(*Due ultimately to USCIS error/claims foreign BC is translation

Currently: Refiling :(

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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Romania
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Good luck to you and I hope things will work out!Yes, getting your senator involved in the process is a great idea! (F)

My N-400 Journey

06-02-2017 - N-400 package mailed to Dallas Lockbox

06-06-2017 - Credit card charged; received text and email confirming that application was received and NOA is on its way

06-10-2017 - Received NOA letter from NBC dated 06-05-2017

06-16-2017 - Received Biometrics Appointment Letter for 06-28-2017

01-19-2018 - Interview Letter sent

02-27-18 - Interview and Oath Ceremony. Finally US CITIZEN! 

My ROC Journey

03-08-2012 - I-751 package mailed to VSC

03-10-2012 - I-751 package delivered

03-14-2012 - Check cashed

03-15-2012 - NOA received, dated 03-12-2012

04-27-2012 - Biometrics appointment

11-23-2012 - ROC approved

11-28-2012 - Approval letter received

12-06-2012 - 10 years Green Card received

My AOS Journey

04-17-09 I-130&I-485&I-765 received by USCIS

04-19-10 AOS Approved

04-29-10 Green Card received

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Filed: Lift. Cond. (apr) Country: India
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Good luck Rohini! I hope you can get this sorted out soon enough!

03/27/2009: Engaged in Ithaca, New York.
08/17/2009: Wedding in Calcutta, India.
09/29/2009: I-130 NOA1
01/25/2010: I-130 NOA2
03/23/2010: Case completed.
05/12/2010: CR-1 interview at Mumbai, India.
05/20/2010: US Entry, Chicago.
03/01/2012: ROC NOA1.
03/26/2012: Biometrics completed.
12/07/2012: 10 year card production ordered.

09/25/2013: N-400 NOA1

10/16/2013: Biometrics completed

12/03/2013: Interview

12/20/2013: Oath ceremony

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