Can I travel with my native country's passport after oath?

[echang03 0]

Hey everyone, I have a quick question. Can I leave America with my native country passport after my oath?

Thanks!

Eric

[v333k 59]

Hey everyone, I have a quick question. Can I leave America with my native country passport after my oath?

Thanks!

Eric

Hi Eric,

once you are a USC, you need to leave/enter the US using a US passport. You can enter/leave other countries with your native country's passport but not the US.

[tweety 1]

as v33k said, for the USA you are only a US citizen once naturalized. So you will need a US passport for international travel.

[echang03 0]

Hi Eric,

once you are a USC, you need to leave/enter the US using a US passport. You can enter/leave other countries with your native country's passport but not the US.

So it is legal to ...

1) I get my expedite passport serice

2) leave America

3) go back to Taiwan with Taiwanese passport

4) leave Taiwan with Taiwanese passport

5) enter US with American passport

But the problem is wouldn't the officer see that there is no stamp of me going in and out of Taiwan on my passport? They would be like uh where were you for the last 3 months?

[echang03 0]

I just found this on the State Department Website

Most U.S. citizens, including dual nationals, must use a U.S. passport to enter and leave the United States. Dual nationals may also be required by the foreign country to use its passport to enter and leave that country. Use of the foreign passport does not endanger U.S. citizenship.Most countries permit a person to renounce or otherwise lose citizenship.

http://travel.state.gov/travel/cis_pa_tw/cis/cis_1753.html

[echang03 0]

http://www.newcitizen.us/dual.html

This website is super helpful for anyone seeking the same kind of assistance

[VanessaTony 3,567]

Hey everyone, I have a quick question. Can I leave America with my native country passport after my oath?

Thanks!

Eric

Yes you can. The issue arises that you no longer have a greencard, and you have no status on the basis of your home countries passport anymore... so how would you re-enter?

As stated by other people, you will need a US passport in order to re-enter the US.

As a dual-citizen I can tell the process for multiple passports is fun. You will need to leave the US on the passport that gives you the ability to visit the country you're going to, without a visa. For instance, when I went home to Australia I entered the US on my UK passport so thought I needed to use it to leave (like you said to show I left after I arrived)... WRONG! They were going to deny me getting on the plane because my UK passport didn't have an Australian visa in it, and because I hadn't registered for the Visa Waiver Program using my UK passport. When I said "but I have an Australian passport" she said that I need to leave using that one because without a visa they won't let me board the plane.

So when you go to Taiwan, show your Taiwan passport when you board the plane/get tickets, on your way back to the US, show your US passport. This way you don't need to worry about visas.

If you were to ever go anywhere where you don't have a passport (lets say the UK for instance, or Australia) you should apply for a visa (or visa waiver program) using US passport as the US is now your "home country". The rule of thumb is the country you are living in is your "default" passport. So normally my Aussie passport is my "default" passport (for when I get visas and for ID etc) and once (and if) I naturalise in the US, while I live here I will need to use the US passport as my default. If we move back to Australia then my Aussie is my default again. Make sense?

Best of luck

http://www.newcitizen.us/dual.html

This website is super helpful for anyone seeking the same kind of assistance

This is one showing which countries allow dual nationals: http://www.800citizen.com/dualCitizenship.htm I can't see Taiwan on the list, I could be missing it though

[VanessaTony 3,567]

I just found this on the State Department Website

Most U.S. citizens, including dual nationals, must use a U.S. passport to enter and leave the United States. Dual nationals may also be required by the foreign country to use its passport to enter and leave that country. Use of the foreign passport does not endanger U.S. citizenship.Most countries permit a person to renounce or otherwise lose citizenship.

http://travel.state.gov/travel/cis_pa_tw/cis/cis_1753.html

You will need to show both. Both because the US passport doesn't have a visa to your home country in it. Both because it appears the US likes to keep track of it's citizens.

[NickD 203]

To the best of my knowledge, the only person that ever checked the stamps in my wife's passport, was her IO at her USC interview.

Yeah, its a mess trying not only to maintain a US passport, but also passports from your home country.

With a green card, you have to maintain your home countries passport with no problem getting back into the USA with it. At your oath ceremony, they take your green card away, so if you want to come back to the USA, you gotta have a US passport. But if your home country insists you maintain your home country passport because your US passport says you were born in that country, then you have to maintain at least two passports.

Kind of look at it as trading your green card for a US passport.

[echang03 0]

Thank you guys so much.

So I am actually going to China to study abroad. I didn't mention it because it is very easy for Taiwanese citizens to obtain this document(TBC) that allows us to travel to China whenever and however much we want. So I will actually be going back to Taiwan after my interview. Get my TBC to go to China. Go to China with that TBC. Fly back to America (for the oath) with my Taiwanese passport.

After the oath,

1) get expedite service right away

in this case, i will leave America with the new American passport, enter China with TBC, leave China with my American passport or TBC, enter American with my American passport

2) get a passport in China's American embassy

can i do this? since they don't check ur passport when you depart America

Thank you soooooooo much

[thongd4me 69]

You will need to show both. Both because the US passport doesn't have a visa to your home country in it. Both because it appears the US likes to keep track of it's citizens.

Show both where? Never heard of this.

You need to show both but not together in the same country.

The US passport in the US only and the foreign passport in that country only, both coming & going.

There is no country on earth that requires visas for it's own citizens to enter

(unless there is a very quirky law that I haven't heard about yet).

[milimelo 4,502]

Thank you guys so much.

So I am actually going to China to study abroad. I didn't mention it because it is very easy for Taiwanese citizens to obtain this document(TBC) that allows us to travel to China whenever and however much we want. So I will actually be going back to Taiwan after my interview. Get my TBC to go to China. Go to China with that TBC. Fly back to America (for the oath) with my Taiwanese passport.

After the oath,

1) get expedite service right away

in this case, i will leave America with the new American passport, enter China with TBC, leave China with my American passport or TBC, enter American with my American passport

2) get a passport in China's American embassy

can i do this? since they don't check ur passport when you depart America

Thank you soooooooo much

The 2) will not work that easily. Someone reported on here how they obtained the US passport through the US embassy but it took too much hassle.

1) - After you get your certificate, go to a passport agency (I hope there is one near you) if you travel within 14 days you can get a same day passport, you just have to pay an expedite fee of $60 on top of the regular passport fee. This happens all the time in Chicago they send people from O'Hare and Midway right before their flights.

Here are the passport agencies:

http://travel.state.gov/passport/about/agencies/agencies_913.html

[VanessaTony 3,567]

Show both where? Never heard of this.

You need to show both but not together in the same country.

The US passport in the US only WRONG and the foreign passport in that country only WRONG, both coming & going WRONG.

There is no country on earth that requires visas for it's own citizens to enter EXACTLY! But how does the country you are leaving know you HAVE a passport for that country unless you SHOW it before you board?

(unless there is a very quirky law that I haven't heard about yet).

BECAUSE if you only show the US passport how do they know you HAVE the country you are travelling to's passport/visa?

I am a dual citizen. I KNOW you need to show a visa or passport for the country you are travelling TO when you are boarding the plane NOT in the country you are arriving in as border control starts when you board the plane as you need a visa or passport BEFORE you board the plane.

I have never needed to show my Australian passport when leaving Australia, I used my UK passport to leave Aus, I wasn't checked when I arrived in the UK for a visa, just for customs. I left the UK on the UK passport only because I was using it to enter the US and that's where the VWP was registered. Then I then showed my Aussie passport when leaving the US because I was going to Australia they needed PROOF that I was Australian and had an Australian visa. I wrote this above... didn't you read the posts above?

So, because it was mentioned on the State website, and because other people said you NEED to show the US passport when leaving the US then I can only assume you need to show both (if visiting a country you have a passport to) because how else do they know you have a visa or a passport to go there? And they WILL NOT let you board the plane without that proof.

Edited April 22, 2010 by Vanessa&Tony

[TheBears 9]

After the oath,

1) get expedite service right away

in this case, i will leave America with the new American passport, enter China with TBC, leave China with my American passport or TBC, enter American with my American passport

Small (But Important!) Note: Whatever passport you enter a country with, you leave on that passport, too. Always. So you enter China with TBC, then you leave China with TBC.

Safe travels!

[v333k 59]

So it is legal to ...

1) I get my expedite passport serice

2) leave America

3) go back to Taiwan with Taiwanese passport

4) leave Taiwan with Taiwanese passport

5) enter US with American passport

But the problem is wouldn't the officer see that there is no stamp of me going in and out of Taiwan on my passport? They would be like uh where were you for the last 3 months?

I think the answers to all your question is Yes. I don't think the officers care if you have or don't have stamps.... maybe the rules are changing a bit since they want to know where you have been when outside the US to make sure if you have visited countries on the flagged list they would ask additional questions for security purposes.

Small (But Important!) Note: Whatever passport you enter a country with, you leave on that passport, too. Always. So you enter China with TBC, then you leave China with TBC.

Safe travels!

Very Very true.... do not mix and match passport as if they are credit cards.....