Absolutely Ridiculous..happended to anybody else?

[germanguest 0]

So like 4 months ago I sent in my I-751 and had my biometrics appointment 3 months ago.

Yesterday I got a letter from them saying that the evidence submitted with my I-751 is insufficient.

Seriously, I dont know what else to send them. I sent them our joint leases from 2008-2010 (I dont have the lease contract from 2007 - 2008 because we moved), sent joint tax return, pictures of us, copies of plane tickets for trips we took together, joint automobile insurance. There is nothing else to send. We have seperated bank accounts, which we do on purpose so there will be no fighting over money, I still have my maiden name. I mean really?!? What else do they want!?!

Did that happen to anybody else?!? All I read in the forum is people getting approved..

[john_and_marlene 162]

So like 4 months ago I sent in my I-751 and had my biometrics appointment 3 months ago.

Yesterday I got a letter from them saying that the evidence submitted with my I-751 is insufficient.

Seriously, I dont know what else to send them. I sent them our joint leases from 2008-2010 (I dont have the lease contract from 2007 - 2008 because we moved), sent joint tax return, pictures of us, copies of plane tickets for trips we took together, joint automobile insurance. There is nothing else to send. We have seperated bank accounts, which we do on purpose so there will be no fighting over money, I still have my maiden name. I mean really?!? What else do they want!?!

Did that happen to anybody else?!? All I read in the forum is people getting approved..

It is not rediculous. You have provided very little proof. There is something else you can send--notarized affidavits from people that know you are a bonafide couple.

[rika60607 215]

RFEs happen all the time.

Just think creatively and send them something else.

Utility bills? Credit cards together?

Affidavits from friends, for example. Are you named as beneficiaries of each other's retirement, life insurance?

Listed as emergency contact at your doctor's?

Have some club memberships in both names?

Have holiday cards from family members addressed to both of you?

...

Edited March 25, 2010 by rika60607

[MoroccanInTexas 24]

So like 4 months ago I sent in my I-751 and had my biometrics appointment 3 months ago.

Yesterday I got a letter from them saying that the evidence submitted with my I-751 is insufficient.

Seriously, I dont know what else to send them. I sent them our joint leases from 2008-2010 (I dont have the lease contract from 2007 - 2008 because we moved), sent joint tax return, pictures of us, copies of plane tickets for trips we took together, joint automobile insurance. There is nothing else to send. We have seperated bank accounts, which we do on purpose so there will be no fighting over money, I still have my maiden name. I mean really?!? What else do they want!?!

Did that happen to anybody else?!? All I read in the forum is people getting approved..

I understand the process is stressful. Just take a deep breath

other things you can send : Health insurance-life insurance-rental insurance/home

utility bills even if both of you are not on the same account

State drivers license showing both with same address

affidavits from friends/relatives about your relationship

2009 tax return

Good luck

Edited March 25, 2010 by MoroccanInTexas

[v333k 59]

So like 4 months ago I sent in my I-751 and had my biometrics appointment 3 months ago.

Yesterday I got a letter from them saying that the evidence submitted with my I-751 is insufficient.

Seriously, I dont know what else to send them. I sent them our joint leases from 2008-2010 (I dont have the lease contract from 2007 - 2008 because we moved), sent joint tax return, pictures of us, copies of plane tickets for trips we took together, joint automobile insurance. There is nothing else to send. We have seperated bank accounts, which we do on purpose so there will be no fighting over money, I still have my maiden name. I mean really?!? What else do they want!?!

Did that happen to anybody else?!? All I read in the forum is people getting approved..

To them... USCIS that is, money is key. If you take a quick overview of the evidence, all they care about is to show them the $$$.

Tax returns = $$$

Bank accounts = $$$

Insurance = $$$

Utility bills = $$$

When you send picture, and as important as they are - this does not equal to $$$

So if you weigh everything, giving 1 point to each item you send in that involves money, and 0.5 point to each item that doesn't, then you should at least have 5-6 money related items and 4-5 non-money related items... your score should total up to the B average of 8 with 50% related to money.

If you look at the banking system, they will never give you a penny if you don't show that you can pay it back (hence, the credit score and history). USCIS doesn't know you and they need to establish a "credit score" with each applicant. The one mistake you made is not to put your spouse's name on your bank account - even though they remained separate. This increase your "USCIS Credit score".

The maiden name is not a problem to them by the way.

Sorry to be weirdly technical.

Do you have:

utility bills

Consignment

Other insurance

401K plans

get affidavits

Credit card statements (if joint will be perfect)

This is what I can think about for now.....

good luck

[evilmonkey 2]

To them... USCIS that is, money is key. If you take a quick overview of the evidence, all they care about is to show them the $$$.

Tax returns = $$$

Bank accounts = $$$

Insurance = $$$

Utility bills = $$$

When you send picture, and as important as they are - this does not equal to $$$

So if you weigh everything, giving 1 point to each item you send in that involves money, and 0.5 point to each item that doesn't, then you should at least have 5-6 money related items and 4-5 non-money related items... your score should total up to the B average of 8 with 50% related to money.

If you look at the banking system, they will never give you a penny if you don't show that you can pay it back (hence, the credit score and history). USCIS doesn't know you and they need to establish a "credit score" with each applicant. The one mistake you made is not to put your spouse's name on your bank account - even though they remained separate. This increase your "USCIS Credit score".

The maiden name is not a problem to them by the way.

Sorry to be weirdly technical.

Do you have:

utility bills

Consignment

Other insurance

401K plans

get affidavits

Credit card statements (if joint will be perfect)

This is what I can think about for now.....

good luck

well said!

[Yurika & Jim 77]

At first, sorry about your ridiculous situation...

Here is the thread posted by member who got received RFE. You might find some tips here...

http://www.visajourn...received-today/

[w8inglongtime 29]

So like 4 months ago I sent in my I-751 and had my biometrics appointment 3 months ago.

Yesterday I got a letter from them saying that the evidence submitted with my I-751 is insufficient.

Seriously, I dont know what else to send them. I sent them our joint leases from 2008-2010 (I dont have the lease contract from 2007 - 2008 because we moved), sent joint tax return, pictures of us, copies of plane tickets for trips we took together, joint automobile insurance. There is nothing else to send. We have seperated bank accounts, which we do on purpose so there will be no fighting over money, I still have my maiden name. I mean really?!? What else do they want!?!

Did that happen to anybody else?!? All I read in the forum is people getting approved..

It is frustrating no doubt. Especially after waiting all these months. Try to search around the house for joint stuff in your names. Quite frankly, the evidence you sent does very little to show "FINANCIAL" co-mingling. USCIS wants to see you both using/saving/investing your as a couple. Joint Credit and checking accounts carry the most weight.

[w8inglongtime 29]

It is frustrating no doubt. Especially after waiting all these months. Try to search around the house for joint stuff in your names. Quite frankly, the evidence you sent does very little to show "FINANCIAL" co-mingling. USCIS wants to see you both using/saving/investing your as a couple. Joint Credit and checking accounts carry the most weight. Why don't you add each other on your accounts and have the understanding that it is for USCIS purposes so no one has to physicaly "touch" the other's money? I'm sure you both want this 10yr card so this arrangement should be easy.

Edited March 25, 2010 by w8inglongtime

[meauxna 15]

It is frustrating no doubt. Especially after waiting all these months. Try to search around the house for joint stuff in your names. Quite frankly, the evidence you sent does very little to show "FINANCIAL" co-mingling. USCIS wants to see you both using/saving/investing your as a couple. Joint Credit and checking accounts carry the most weight. Why don't you add each other on your accounts and have the understanding that it is for USCIS purposes so no one has to physicaly "touch" the other's money? I'm sure you both want this 10yr card so this arrangement should be easy.

Do you have any evidence for this theory? I've just never heard it put quite so vehemently before.

Adding each other to accounts at this point doesn't really overcome any predjudice about comingling finances, does it?

However, they can both send in copies of their bank statements, showing that they have the same permanent address. There are lots of other types of evidence that show they reside in the same place etc, share social ties together (we sent copies of our Costco cards) and have other kinds of commitments to each other.

If they don't have the financial evidence, manufacturing it at this time might have the opposite effect as intended. However, there's a lot more they could show that people who do NOT live in relationship together wouldn't be able to pull together.

OP, you should probably also re-send everything you've already sent. There was a post recently from someone with the same RFE here: http://britishexpats.com/forum/showthread.php?t=660678

[w8inglongtime 29]

Do you have any evidence for this theory? I've just never heard it put quite so vehemently before.

Adding each other to accounts at this point doesn't really overcome any predjudice about comingling finances, does it?

However, they can both send in copies of their bank statements, showing that they have the same permanent address. There are lots of other types of evidence that show they reside in the same place etc, share social ties together (we sent copies of our Costco cards) and have other kinds of commitments to each other.

If they don't have the financial evidence, manufacturing it at this time might have the opposite effect as intended. However, there's a lot more they could show that people who do NOT live in relationship together wouldn't be able to pull together.

OP, you should probably also re-send everything you've already sent. There was a post recently from someone with the same RFE here: http://britishexpats.com/forum/showthread.php?t=660678

The OP was asking for suggestings. That was mine. I never said it was written in stone and they should do it. IMO, Having a joint credit and checking accounts say more about a married couple in this instance than separate accounts.

[elmcitymaven 9,711]

There are plenty of VJers who went successfully removed conditions without having joint bank accounts. We did it, but we had plenty of other evidence. It is NOT the end-all and be-all, as meauxna states.

[Ak+Tk 0]

best of luck on this process! hope all goes well

[raymaga 25]

Medical insurance cards showing you both on the plan, insurance documents showing one as the beneficiary for the other, joint car insurance and ownership documents.

Good luck and best wishes.

[kiddhan273 0]

This is what we sent for our March filing

Supporting Documents

• Letter (Reminder from USCIS)
• Marriage Certificate
• Federal Income Tax Returns for the Last 3 years
• Copy of Green Card (Front & Back) Displays Married last name
• Drivers License(s) Displays Current Address & Married last name
• 401k with beneficiary information (From our employers)
• Life insurance with beneficiary information
• Dental/Vision Insurance Information
• Joint Bank Statements
• Joint Credit Card Bills
• Car Insurance (Joint)
• Copy of Passport Stamps from our Overseas Trips
• Trip Itineraries
• Photo’s from our trips and varying family functions
• Cell Phone Records
• Security Clearance Paperwork Indicating Spouse

Affidavits

• Parents
• Brother & Brother-In-Law