URGENT ADVISE

[Aussielad 37]

Has anyone ever thought about that maybe....since he has her password and access to her email that he in turn created another email account and is just causing problems?????

Plus.....its off an email as well....emails unfortunately get created by alot of people just to cause other people problems

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The FBI will not take any action on this. I have several good friends that are FBI agents and through personal immigration knowledge, can confidently assure you that this is out of their jurisdiction.

The proper reporting avenue would be the USCIS. If appropriate, you should forward all available evidence to USCIS on this case and withdraw any petitions/documents outstanding.

i just got off the phone

this is an ICE issue, I did not file a report. It is a deal ender to the marriage if I make a report...instant deportation I suspect. She wouldnt even fight it I am sure and just leave on her own.

but my main question

HOW DO I PROTECT MYSELF FINANCIALLY if I remain married and this bombshell is dropped on me?

LOL, I "just got off the phone" Maybe you DID just get off the phone, but at 12:18 am (after the call was suggested at 12:09am) it was not with ICE, FBI or USCIS, heck we try for days to talk to those people during normal business hours. He got off the phone with his cohort in this gag and they are laughing at all the VJers now going crazy over a potential green card fraud. Sheeeesh

you can call ICE 24/7. Go to the government website and check it out yourself and then make a call yourself. USCIS is shut down after a certain hour, not ICE nor the fbi

Has anyone ever thought about that maybe....since he has her password and access to her email that he in turn created another email account and is just causing problems?????

Plus.....its off an email as well....emails unfortunately get created by alot of people just to cause other people problems

excuse me?

I made the email up? to cause problems? hello???? I found this email after being married a couple of months now. So if i did the initial writing why would I then need to steal her password?

Dude how old are you? What is your educational level? Obviously if i had been messing with her I would have no need to hack into her email account.

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This is hard to explain. I was initially going to call the FBI for immigration fraud on the man who is doing the talking and then get my now wife deported.

Yes, I did a big no-no by going into her email...but obviously in the end it was justified.

This is a cut and paste version of the email(i have left the recipients names out as to have them not be contacted only)

the man advising her is her 60+ year old ex-bf, about a month before our wedding right before her visa interview

can charges be pressed on the man for this?????????????

HOW DO I PROTECT MYSELF? Other than sending her packing, her AOS/work permit/travel document should be completed within the month. We married 2 1/2 months ago roughly.

HOW DO I PROTECT MYSELF, 17,500 A YEAR IS NOT CHUMP CHANGE

Honey,

This attorney was the most knowledgeable and experienced one I have spoken to so far. He has twenty years experience and does 3 - 5 cases per year exactly like yours would be. Here is what he told me:

1) As we believed, you must wait for the conditional Green card. Unless there is abuse, all K-1 visa holders who marry their petitioners, then divorce prior to obtaining a conditional green card, would be forced to return to their home country.

2) In Virginia, currently the green card takes approximately five months to obtain.

3) He said traveling outside the USA while waiting for the Green Card and getting Advanced Parole really does not enhance your power, he could not imagine why the other attorney said that. Your likeliness to remain in America depends ENTIRELY on proving the marriage was entered into in good faith and was a genuine marriage.

4) The BEST things you can do while married is to assemble sufficient indications of a genuine marriage, such as: taking his name, living together at the same address, comingling of assets...that is, signing leases together, buying property together, getting insurance together, taking out a joint bank account and credit cards together, having your names jointly on as many accounts and services as you normally would as a married couple in America, having friends and witnesses of your being together, and should difficulties develop between you...even going to a marriage counselor together...all these things show intent to have a normal marriage and to try to keep it going.

The attorney said that Immigration Officials are not stupid, they try hard to prevent fraudulent immigration. They even work together with NexusLexus...a company which can dig up all the pertinent records on your marriage, co-mingling of assets, etc. to prove or disprove a good-faith marriage. Occasionally, though rarely, Officials even make random visits to see if the married couple are living together like married people do.... you need to keep yourself looking something like "the devoted wife" for five or six months, till you get that CARD...then you're on your way to freedom and affluence, my honey! By next Summer you could be filing for your own Unconditional Green Card!

5) After you get the conditional Green Card, you can divorce, your husband cannot prevent you from divorcing him....you can change back to your maiden name, and it is recommended you have your own lawyer representing you in the divorce, AND your immigration attorney working with your divorce lawyer. I will explain this in detail to you....but those two attorneys can even get your estranged husband to sign a statement saying that both of you entered the marriage in good faith. All these corroborating items can and will allow you to remain in America after the early divorce.

Even if you do not remain married for more than six months, if your case shows you married in good faith, you are very likely to be able to stay. Once you divorce, YOU apply yourself for a Waiver of Conditions, or a Form 751,...the same form the both of you would file after two years being married that, if accepted, allows you to get your Non-Conditional (10 year) Green Card. In other words, if you present a believable case that the marriage was sincere, you can get your permanent (10 year) green card, even after only being married six months or so!

You CAN marry again anytime after divorcing ....or you may not .....the Attorney said it does not help you to stay in the USA by remarrying, in fact, he said, you might want to wait a bit...because remarrying (soon after getting your Conditional green card and divorcing) would look a little suspicious... almost like this is what you planned to do from the beginning...obtain a green card fraudulently...and marry the guy you really wanted....

He said you might only feel "the need" to remarry if you were denied the Non-Conditional Green Card and were being sent home after two years here. Then marrying an American here and filing for a K-3 could bring you back to America. He said the K-3 would be the way to go in such a case, as there would be very little chance that Immigration would award you a second K-1 Fiance-type visa after you did not remain married on the first K-1 visa.

6) The Affidavit of Support your petitioner files with your K-1 visa is a promise to support you for TEN YEARS!! That is, EVEN IF YOU DIVORCE HIM, he MUST provide you with at least $17,500 a year for ten years. It is a Federal Law and cannot be removed in a divorce proceeding. Your ex-husband MUST pay you that if you want it, as the government assumes no responsibility for your support for those ten years.

7) ABUSE can be physical, mental, verbal....should your husband be abusive, you need only call the police and/or have witnesses who will corroborate the abuse for your records. Such cases can allow you to get an Unconditional Green card rapidly.....if there is some proof of this.

In Summary, it is all up to you ... if you can build a record of showing you married in good faith and tried to make it work...your chances of remaining in the USA are excellent. This attorney said he always wins such cases if you follow the above advice in building proof of a good-faith marriage. And he can coach along the way. If we have more questions I can call him anytime.

I would love it if you married me, and I wish you would, but it would not necessarily help you in staying here. My love for you is quite unselfish, I care more about your future than my own wishes. I would remain loving you and being your friend and lover regardless of whether we married or not. More than anything, I am hoping you can be patient and endure your marriage long enough to get to stay here...and then get your freedom and your real life going toward wealth and happiness. You carried this jerk for a year....carry him another six to eight months and you will be free and on your way to your dreams...its called postgratification......persevere just a bit more, and be smart and careful...as there is no turning back now. Not marrying him would set you back from freedom more than another year.....better to sacrifice 6 - 8 months than 12 - 14 months. I wish you were marrying me, not him, but you're not...we're stuck with him, so lets make the best of it, my love, we must do what is neccessary for the greater good....

(######, I sound like Obama...)

xoxoxo KISS!

Sorry,

Not buying into this. The OP joins after midnight to receive "urgent advice" from VJ members. Hasn't responded to any posts. C'mon folks, can you tell when someone is pulling your leg? The OP needs to get a life, get a wife and find something else to do at 12:08 am on a Saturday morning/Friday night.

Also, do you really believe a couple engaged in immigration fraud, having attorneys obviously advising them on immigration fraud (THAT part I would believe) then lay out their entire plan of all details in one email? In an email at all? Sorry, but anyone clever enough to do this is clever enough to KNOW you do not put it in email for exactly the reason the prankster states...her "husband" could get into her email, or someone else could and NOW there is evidence. Stupid.

To the OP, I hope you eventually got some sleep and have something more entertaining for yourself today

Yes, I joined tonight at midnight under this name, not my normal ID...because I want to remain as unidentified as possible. I do not care if you believe it or not. I have been on this website for over a year under a different name??????????? this site walked me through the initial petition and all my paperwork.

could care less if you believe the story or not.

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LOL, I "just got off the phone" Maybe you DID just get off the phone, but at 12:18 am (after the call was suggested at 12:09am) it was not with ICE, FBI or USCIS, heck we try for days to talk to those people during normal business hours. He got off the phone with his cohort in this gag and they are laughing at all the VJers now going crazy over a potential green card fraud. Sheeeesh

ok i re-read this and well

you must be an idiot

call ICE right now, you will speak with someone

[KnightAndMagpie 7]

Follow the advice as others have stated: pull the plug on support and get out of that marriage! Nobody should have to go through something as horrendous as this. I cannot fathom what kind of people it would take to plan so extensively where the end result is screwing you over and leaving you penniless, not to mention emotionally wracked.

Best of luck to you -- please look after yourself and ensure your security in this.

Magpie.

Edited February 23, 2009 by KnightAndMagpie

[justashooter 430]

i should post the picture of the fighter pilot ejecting from an F15E.

OP, too bad you are getting run over like this. pull the plug on the affadavit and when it is confirmed, confront the woman. if she comes clean you can boot her. if her story is convincing enuf, you can re-file the affadavit. you know ukraine is a high fraud country, and you can tell for yourself if you two are a reasonably matched couple.

yeah, it's tough. you love her, but it's all worthless if she has made up her mind she doesn't want to keep you. the trouble is, she might convince you that she wants to stay with you, or hasn't decided yet... then you are in a world of hurt, pulled both ways. in such case, protect yourself.

you're the man.

[Aussielad 37]

The FBI will not take any action on this. I have several good friends that are FBI agents and through personal immigration knowledge, can confidently assure you that this is out of their jurisdiction.

The proper reporting avenue would be the USCIS. If appropriate, you should forward all available evidence to USCIS on this case and withdraw any petitions/documents outstanding.

i just got off the phone

this is an ICE issue, I did not file a report. It is a deal ender to the marriage if I make a report...instant deportation I suspect. She wouldnt even fight it I am sure and just leave on her own.

but my main question

HOW DO I PROTECT MYSELF FINANCIALLY if I remain married and this bombshell is dropped on me?

LOL, I "just got off the phone" Maybe you DID just get off the phone, but at 12:18 am (after the call was suggested at 12:09am) it was not with ICE, FBI or USCIS, heck we try for days to talk to those people during normal business hours. He got off the phone with his cohort in this gag and they are laughing at all the VJers now going crazy over a potential green card fraud. Sheeeesh

you can call ICE 24/7. Go to the government website and check it out yourself and then make a call yourself. USCIS is shut down after a certain hour, not ICE nor the fbi

Has anyone ever thought about that maybe....since he has her password and access to her email that he in turn created another email account and is just causing problems?????

Plus.....its off an email as well....emails unfortunately get created by alot of people just to cause other people problems

excuse me?

I made the email up? to cause problems? hello???? I found this email after being married a couple of months now. So if i did the initial writing why would I then need to steal her password?

Dude how old are you? What is your educational level? Obviously if i had been messing with her I would have no need to hack into her email account.

...............yeah, who knows if he was abusing her as well and she was looking for advice.....

and for your knowledge wanksta....i am educated!

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...............yeah, who knows if he was abusing her as well and she was looking for advice.....

and for your knowledge wanksta....i am educated!

ya, thats it, i abused her...idiot

god, you must be a loon. She recieved this letter in November, her visa interview was in December, we were married in December. So how was I to abuse someone who was in a different country? It is a clear plan.

think before you speak, you sound like an idiot

[MaxOnline 0]

FBI >> Divorce >> Deportation!

[MaxOnline 0]

and check her sent folder to know what did she write to him... but I have a question, are you abusive? have you ever beaten her?

[Malarie 0]

The FBI will not take any action on this. I have several good friends that are FBI agents and through personal immigration knowledge, can confidently assure you that this is out of their jurisdiction.

The proper reporting avenue would be the USCIS. If appropriate, you should forward all available evidence to USCIS on this case and withdraw any petitions/documents outstanding.

i just got off the phone

this is an ICE issue, I did not file a report. It is a deal ender to the marriage if I make a report...instant deportation I suspect. She wouldnt even fight it I am sure and just leave on her own.

but my main question

HOW DO I PROTECT MYSELF FINANCIALLY if I remain married and this bombshell is dropped on me?

From personal experience .... If you have not yet gone for your AOS interview - DO NOT GO!! Write a letter of withdrawl for the Affidavit of support and any/every other petition you filed -- you want to be sure that you cover all bases.

You will be OK if you have not yet attended the AOS interview - this is key.

I wish you good luck and yes this makes me sick to my stomach.

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and check her sent folder to know what did she write to him... but I have a question, are you abusive? have you ever beaten her?

NO

real men do not abuse women

[Aussielad 37]

cabrón que tu eres! y la tuya también jackofalltrades!

and check her sent folder to know what did she write to him... but I have a question, are you abusive? have you ever beaten her?

NO

real men do not abuse women

real men....you sure your one?....double check that

[bhajishah 4]

She a tred or what. and what is geezers problem?? he delusional LOL proof they bait and string quite a few props @ the same time. WOWza

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real men....you sure your one?....double check that

much more than you to sling out moronic attempts at an insult, so enough with it already boy