Melissa Etheridge meets Rick Warren

[one...two...tree 2,762]

Not everyone is that upset about the choice of Rick Warren to deliver the invocation at President-elect Barack Obama's inauguration. Melissa Etheridge, a longtime advocate for gay rights who is herself a lesbian, recently spoke with Warren, and -- judging from a blog post about the conversation written by Etheridge's wife -- she seems ready to forgive and forget.

An excerpt from Tammy Lynn Michaels' post, which I've left un-edited:

so honey met rick warren last night. well, she spoke to him on the phone beforehand, giving us insight into the man the media has made our latest "HE HATES YOU!" target. if i sit real still and think about it.. it's almost like reverse smear-the-#######... at times, it seems that the media presents us with target after target to smear, as if to say to us, "THIS IS THE GUY HOLDING YOU BACK!! GO GIT 'IM!!!" and it does seem that my lovely gay family is so bruised and bettered and ready to fight back (myself included), that we attack and deem someone ANTI-GAY, and ready to SMEAR, simply when they don't want the word "marriage" brought into our gay ceremonies. now, if the person doesn't want gays AT ALL, then i'm gonna chase that one down. but, i'm starting to think that there are indeed some people... some well-meaning and loving people... who are not at all ANTI-GAY, that's not why they don't want the word marriage used... they are merely RELIGIOUS. and for religious (archaic) reasons, they want to stay safe and respectful to WHAT THEY'VE BEEN TAUGHT.

let me try to differentiate the two.

let's say i am wearing a baseball cap. now what if i want to call it a yamaka? you know- it's basically the same thing, but one is missing the sun visor. i don't call my caps yamakas... cuz that is a religious name for a hat that is worn by religious people. now if i apply that thinking to this situation.... i would like to think of it as.... if they afford us the EXACT SAME RIGHTS, then who cares what it's called? ... joel and hanna can have a piece of paper with the word MARRIAGE on it, and all 1200 rights... and i can have a piece of paper with who-cares on it, and all 1200 rights. the word marriage is a religious, holy, word that people who go to church on sundays are told belongs to them. like yamaka, menorah, or matzo.

rick is not a televangelist. rick is not falwell. rick spoke of some "stupid" things he's said (his word, not mine), some missquotes that were given, and lots of ammunition from the media. all excellent points. (we're all war-minded right now, you know. it's easy for the media to distract us by throwing us into our own verbal wars here at home.) ) what to do, what to do.... the rest of the public is given an animation of rick warren... and then my wife meets the man behind the projections, the quotes, the "OTHER SIDE". and he is warm, caring, effusive, and LOVES gays. since he nearly swallowed honey when he hugged her, i tend to believe him. he wants our gay marriages to be just as respected and embraced as the straight marriages. he just wants to wear his yamaka, and me wear my hat.

― Alex Koppelman

http://www.salon.com/politics/war_room/200...litics/war_room

[rclouse 0]

Yeah, I think the anti Prop 8 people (and I'm one of them) should direct their attention elsewhere. I was reading an article about how he's not well loved by Xtian conservatives and only reluctantly publicly supported Prop 8. He didn't donate money, he didn't hold rallies, all he did was put a post on his website 10 days before the election saying he was voting for 8 and he thought others should too. This guy ain't Robertson or zombie Falwell. Let's hear what he has to say on the 20th. I'm sure it'll be inspiring and conciliatory.

[zqt3344 21]

Hard to believe a Midwest Kansas girl turned out to be a lezzie. She is disgusting. Go Rick, preach it!

Not everyone is that upset about the choice of Rick Warren to deliver the invocation at President-elect Barack Obama's inauguration. Melissa Etheridge, a longtime advocate for gay rights who is herself a lesbian, recently spoke with Warren, and -- judging from a blog post about the conversation written by Etheridge's wife -- she seems ready to forgive and forget.

An excerpt from Tammy Lynn Michaels' post, which I've left un-edited:

so honey met rick warren last night. well, she spoke to him on the phone beforehand, giving us insight into the man the media has made our latest "HE HATES YOU!" target. if i sit real still and think about it.. it's almost like reverse smear-the-#######... at times, it seems that the media presents us with target after target to smear, as if to say to us, "THIS IS THE GUY HOLDING YOU BACK!! GO GIT 'IM!!!" and it does seem that my lovely gay family is so bruised and bettered and ready to fight back (myself included), that we attack and deem someone ANTI-GAY, and ready to SMEAR, simply when they don't want the word "marriage" brought into our gay ceremonies. now, if the person doesn't want gays AT ALL, then i'm gonna chase that one down. but, i'm starting to think that there are indeed some people... some well-meaning and loving people... who are not at all ANTI-GAY, that's not why they don't want the word marriage used... they are merely RELIGIOUS. and for religious (archaic) reasons, they want to stay safe and respectful to WHAT THEY'VE BEEN TAUGHT.

let me try to differentiate the two.

let's say i am wearing a baseball cap. now what if i want to call it a yamaka? you know- it's basically the same thing, but one is missing the sun visor. i don't call my caps yamakas... cuz that is a religious name for a hat that is worn by religious people. now if i apply that thinking to this situation.... i would like to think of it as.... if they afford us the EXACT SAME RIGHTS, then who cares what it's called? ... joel and hanna can have a piece of paper with the word MARRIAGE on it, and all 1200 rights... and i can have a piece of paper with who-cares on it, and all 1200 rights. the word marriage is a religious, holy, word that people who go to church on sundays are told belongs to them. like yamaka, menorah, or matzo.

rick is not a televangelist. rick is not falwell. rick spoke of some "stupid" things he's said (his word, not mine), some missquotes that were given, and lots of ammunition from the media. all excellent points. (we're all war-minded right now, you know. it's easy for the media to distract us by throwing us into our own verbal wars here at home.) ) what to do, what to do.... the rest of the public is given an animation of rick warren... and then my wife meets the man behind the projections, the quotes, the "OTHER SIDE". and he is warm, caring, effusive, and LOVES gays. since he nearly swallowed honey when he hugged her, i tend to believe him. he wants our gay marriages to be just as respected and embraced as the straight marriages. he just wants to wear his yamaka, and me wear my hat.

― Alex Koppelman

http://www.salon.com/politics/war_room/200...litics/war_room

[Ban Hammer 12,841]

Hard to believe a Midwest Kansas girl turned out to be a lezzie. She is disgusting. Go Rick, preach it!

she's from here, leavenworth, kansas. and apparently her sister has a reputation in town for being easy.

[one...two...tree 2,762]

Hard to believe a Midwest Kansas girl turned out to be a lezzie. She is disgusting. Go Rick, preach it!

How did you turn out to be disgusting?

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[zqt3344 21]

Why I beg to differ, I am by God Brilliant and wonderful! Just ask me.

Hard to believe a Midwest Kansas girl turned out to be a lezzie. She is disgusting. Go Rick, preach it!

How did you turn out to be disgusting?

[Sister Fracas 5]

*chortle*

[one...two...tree 2,762]

Why I beg to differ, I am by God Brilliant and wonderful! Just ask me.

Hard to believe a Midwest Kansas girl turned out to be a lezzie. She is disgusting. Go Rick, preach it!

How did you turn out to be disgusting?

So give Melissa Etheridge the same courtesy, jacka$$.

[chri'stina 190]

I kept hearing on CNN yesterday..."you'll be shocked at what Pastor Warren said.." bla bla...it was because he said he loves democrats and republicans, gays and straights. That is not anything new, the media is so dumb sometimes IMO. And people who assume all Christians hate gay people are dumb too if they find that phrase shocking. We are taught to love everyone, even our enemies(no I'm not calling gay people the enemy, even if there are differences among us). We are taught to be kind to even those who hate us and despise us. So what's so shocking about what he said except that people who would be shocked don't know a lot about Christianity and just base it on some rude people they've heard or something.

[Mononoke28 134]

I think Melissa Etheridge is so wonderful, she's an amazing singer and gay activist. I sure hope the gay community ends up getting all the rights they deserve. It's only fair.

Diana

[Ban Hammer 12,841]

Why I beg to differ, I am by God Brilliant and wonderful! Just ask me.

Hard to believe a Midwest Kansas girl turned out to be a lezzie. She is disgusting. Go Rick, preach it!

How did you turn out to be disgusting?

So give Melissa Etheridge the same courtesy, jacka$$.

calm down steven, no need to violate tos.

[w¡n9Nµ7 §£@¥€r 123]

We are taught to love everyone, even our enemies(no I'm not calling gay people the enemy, even if there are differences among us).

are you saying christians are gay for the gheys?

[chri'stina 190]

We are taught to love everyone, even our enemies(no I'm not calling gay people the enemy, even if there are differences among us).

are you saying christians are gay for the gheys?

You're silly.

[w¡n9Nµ7 §£@¥€r 123]

We are taught to love everyone, even our enemies(no I'm not calling gay people the enemy, even if there are differences among us).

are you saying christians are gay for the gheys?

You're silly.

If you can be gay for the gheys, then I'm sure the gheys can be convinced to be gay for Jesus....

And then everyone would be happy.