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Filed: Country: Belarus
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New immigration strategy — Deport yourself

Agency allows immigrants here illegally to avoid raids, prison by turning selves in

By HERNÃN ROZEMBERG San Antonio Express-News

July 30, 2008, 2:37AM

Rather than risk getting caught, turn yourselves in.

That's the latest government strategy in its ongoing effort to dramatically reduce the nation's ballooning population of illegal immigrants.

Scheduled to be unveiled next week, it was announced Sunday by Julie Myers, director of U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement, in an interview with a Spanish-language television network.

Myers told the network that "Operation Scheduled Departure" will allow illegal immigrants without criminal records a chance to literally "self-deport" by turning themselves in to her agents.

She said the idea derived from a common complaint voiced by immigrant detainees: If given the opportunity, they'd rather just go home than be holed up in immigration prisons.

Under the new program, those still walking free will have the chance to walk into ICE offices, be processed and get a few weeks to arrange their affairs, pack their belongings and ship out of the country without being detained.

"The program basically gives an opportunity to those seeking an organized way to self-deport," Myers told Univisión anchor Jorge Ramos.

Myers said the program would allow immigrants to avoid the increasing risks of being picked up in a raid at home or at work, but would offer no additional incentives to turn themselves in — no chance at qualifying for an amnesty, for example.

ICE officials in San Antonio, Dallas and Washington refused to elaborate on the program, saying no details will be made available before the official presentation next week.

Proposal met with scorn

Immigrant advocates called it a laughable charade with little to no chance of succeeding without any carrots to offer self-deportees.

"It's pure fantasy," said Doug Rivlin, spokesman for the National Immigration Forum in Washington. "An attempt to entice people to sign away their rights and get out of the country as quickly as possible before even talking to a lawyer."

If people truly wanted to leave on their own, they'd buy their own bus or plane ticket home without checking in with ICE first, Rivlin said.

Ira Mehlman, spokesman for the Federation for American Immigration Reform, the country's largest anti-illegal-immigration lobby group based in Washington, said he'd have to concede that point.

The government would have to offer some kind of incentive to entice immigrants to sign up, such as telling them that by leaving voluntarily they would be allowed to apply to come back legally, Mehlman said.

The concept of nudging undocumented immigrants into leaving on their own is one his group has long advocated.

"It certainly makes sense to create conditions to make people understand that if they're here illegally, it's not going to benefit them to stick around," he said.

While it remains to be seen whether the idea works for ICE, another federal agency that came up with the idea three years ago claims it has worked well.

"Fugitive Safe Surrender" offers non-violent criminals with arrest warrants a chance to give themselves up to the U.S. Marshals Service instead of being hunted down. So far more than 16,000 have accepted the offer.

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/front/5914689.html#Intro

"Credibility in immigration policy can be summed up in one sentence: Those who should get in, get in; those who should be kept out, are kept out; and those who should not be here will be required to leave."

"...for the system to be credible, people actually have to be deported at the end of the process."

US Congresswoman Barbara Jordan (D-TX)

Testimony to the House Immigration Subcommittee, February 24, 1995

Posted

stupid.

also, the FBI ask all people who committed a crime to turn themselves in/./for a reduced sentence

Peace to All creatures great and small............................................

But when we turn to the Hebrew literature, we do not find such jokes about the donkey. Rather the animal is known for its strength and its loyalty to its master (Genesis 49:14; Numbers 22:30).

Peppi_drinking_beer.jpg

my burro, bosco ..enjoying a beer in almaty

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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Colombia
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Don't hold your breath 'cause I can't picture a whole bunch of illegal immigrants volunteering for this #######. They're illegal, not stupid, there's a big difference.

Diana

CR-1

02/05/07 - I-130 sent to NSC

05/03/07 - NOA2

05/10/07 - NVC receives petition, case # assigned

08/08/07 - Case Complete

09/27/07 - Interview, visa granted

10/02/07 - POE

11/16/07 - Received green card and Welcome to America letter in the mail

Removing Conditions

07/06/09 - I-751 sent to CSC

08/14/09 - Biometrics

09/27/09 - Approved

10/01/09 - Received 10 year green card

U.S. Citizenship

03/30/11 - N-400 sent via Priority Mail w/ delivery confirmation

05/12/11 - Biometrics

07/20/11 - Interview - passed

07/20/11 - Oath ceremony - same day as interview

Posted

How about the simpler method of leaving the country unannounced (without bothering to turn themselves in), since this is easier to enforce and cheaper?

(of course, I'm being sarky)

2005/07/10 I-129F filed for Pras

2005/11/07 I-129F approved, forwarded to NVC--to Chennai Consulate 2005/11/14

2005/12/02 Packet-3 received from Chennai

2005/12/21 Visa Interview Date

2006/04/04 Pras' entry into US at DTW

2006/04/15 Church Wedding at Novi (Detroit suburb), MI

2006/05/01 AOS Packet (I-485/I-131/I-765) filed at Chicago

2006/08/23 AP and EAD approved. Two down, 1.5 to go

2006/10/13 Pras' I-485 interview--APPROVED!

2006/10/27 Pras' conditional GC arrives -- .5 to go (2 yrs to Conditions Removal)

2008/07/21 I-751 (conditions removal) filed

2008/08/22 I-751 biometrics completed

2009/06/18 I-751 approved

2009/07/03 10-year GC received; last 0.5 done!

2009/07/23 Pras files N-400

2009/11/16 My 46TH birthday, Pras N-400 approved

2010/03/18 Pras' swear-in

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As long as the LORD's beside me, I don't care if this road ever ends.

Filed: Country: Indonesia
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If they wanted to go home, they would have done it already.

I-130

Jun 28 2004 : Received at NSC

Oct 25 2004 : Transferred to CSC

Oct 29 2004 : Received at CSC

Nov 8 2004 : Received response from CSC that my file is being requested & review will be done

Nov 10 2004 : Email & online status Approved

Nov 15 2004 : NOA 2 in mail

Dec 16 2004 : NVC assigns case number

Dec 20 2004 : NVC sent DS 3032 to beneficiary, copy of DS 3032 & I-864 fee bill to petitioner

Jan 3 2005 : Petitioner received copy of DS 3032 and I-864 fee bill. Post-marked Dec 23rd.

Jan 11 2005 : Beneficiary received DS 3032 in Indonesia

Jan 31 2005 : Sent DS 3032 to NVC

Feb 8, 2005 : NVC received DS 3032

Feb 21, 2005 : IV fee generated

Feb 25, 2005 : Sent I-864 fee bill

Feb 28, 2005 : I-864 fee bill delivered to St Louis

Mar 3, 2005 : IV fee bill received

Mar 7, 2005 : Sent IV fee bill

Mar 9, 2005 : IV fee bill delivered to St Louis

Mar 28, 2005 : I-864 fee credited against case.

April 6, 2005 : Received I-864 package

April 7, 2005 : Immigrant Visa fee credited against case.

April 11, 2005 : DS 230 is generated

Aug 12, 2005 : I-864 & DS 230 received by NVC

Sep 14, 2005 : RFE on I-864

Nov 3, 2005 : Checklist response received at NVC

Nov 25, 2005 : Case completion

Dec 9, 2005 : Police Cert requested from the Netherlands

Jan 12 2006 : Interview success - Approved !!

Jan 19 2006 : Visa & brown envelope picked up

Filed: Citizen (pnd) Country: Morocco
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I'm sure they are running in hords to turn themselves in. :wacko:

'Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in an attractive and well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways - Chardonnay in one hand - chocolate in the other - body thoroughly used up, totally worn out and screaming 'WOO HOO, What a Ride'

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stupid.

also, the FBI ask all people who committed a crime to turn themselves in/./for a reduced sentence

WHAT??? You mean they don't turn themselves in already??????? :blink::blink::blink:

:lol:

I mean, seriously.... here I am thinking this sweetheart just walked in one day and said: "OK, since you're idiots and cannot catch me after more than 15 murders, I will give you a chance to fry my brains"...

ted.jpg

Filed: Country: Belarus
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Don't hold your breath 'cause I can't picture a whole bunch of illegal immigrants volunteering for this #######. They're illegal, not stupid, there's a big difference.

Diana

Well...let's see...suppose you are an illegal alien from Kazahkstan and you are homesick for the Motherland...haven't seen mama, papa, and the folks back home in years...tired of living the illegal alien lifestyle...and maybe kind of disappointed that the illegal alien amnesty fell through in 2006, 2007, 2008, and uncertain in the future. Lots of stepped up enforcement actions going on. Workplace raids, arrests, jail terms, etc.

How about a free trip back home courtesy of the US taxpayer? It beats spending months in an overcrowded immigration detention prison while your deportation case languishes in administrative hell.

Who's being stupid now? ;)

"Credibility in immigration policy can be summed up in one sentence: Those who should get in, get in; those who should be kept out, are kept out; and those who should not be here will be required to leave."

"...for the system to be credible, people actually have to be deported at the end of the process."

US Congresswoman Barbara Jordan (D-TX)

Testimony to the House Immigration Subcommittee, February 24, 1995

Filed: AOS (apr) Country: Panama
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stupid.

also, the FBI ask all people who committed a crime to turn themselves in/./for a reduced sentence

WHAT??? You mean they don't turn themselves in already??????? :blink::blink::blink:

:lol:

I mean, seriously.... here I am thinking this sweetheart just walked in one day and said: "OK, since you're idiots and cannot catch me after more than 15 murders, I will give you a chance to fry my brains"...

ted.jpg

Good ol' Ted Bundy,what a guy ! :blink:

Don't hold your breath 'cause I can't picture a whole bunch of illegal immigrants volunteering for this #######. They're illegal, not stupid, there's a big difference.

Diana

Well...let's see...suppose you are an illegal alien from Kazahkstan and you are homesick for the Motherland...haven't seen mama, papa, and the folks back home in years...tired of living the illegal alien lifestyle...and maybe kind of disappointed that the illegal alien amnesty fell through in 2006, 2007, 2008, and uncertain in the future. Lots of stepped up enforcement actions going on. Workplace raids, arrests, jail terms, etc.

How about a free trip back home courtesy of the US taxpayer? It beats spending months in an overcrowded immigration detention prison while your deportation case languishes in administrative hell.

Who's being stupid now? ;)

Can I deport myself even if I was born here ? :unsure:

May 7,2007-USCIS received I-129f
July 24,2007-NOA1 was received
April 21,2008-K-1 visa denied.
June 3,2008-waiver filed at US Consalate in Panama
The interview went well,they told him it will take another 6 months for them to adjudicate the waiver
March 3,2009-US Consulate claims they have no record of our December visit,nor Manuel's interview
March 27,2009-Manuel returned to the consulate for another interrogation(because they forgot about December's interview),and they were really rude !
April 3,2009-US Counsalate asks for more court documents that no longer exist !
June 1,2009-Manuel and I go back to the US consalate AGAIN to give them a letter from the court in Colon along with documents I already gave them last year.I was surprised to see they had two thick files for his case !


June 15,2010-They called Manuel in to take his fingerprints again,still no decision on his case!
June 22,2010-WAIVER APPROVED at 5:00pm
July 19,2010-VISA IN MANUELITO'S HAND at 3:15pm!
July 25,2010-Manuelito arrives at 9:35pm at Logan Intn'l Airport,Boston,MA
August 5,2010-FINALLY MARRIED!!!!!!!!!!!!
August 23,2010-Filed for AOS at the International Institute of RI $1400!
December 23,2010-Work authorization received.
January 12,2011-RFE

Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Brazil
Timeline
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:thumbs:



* K1 Timeline *
* 04/07/06: I-129F Sent to NSC
* 10/02/06: Interview date - APPROVED!
* 10/10/06: POE Houston
* 11/25/06: Wedding day!!!

* AOS/EAD/AP Timeline *
*01/05/07: AOS/EAD/AP sent
*02/19/08: AOS approved
*02/27/08: Permanent Resident Card received

* LOC Timeline *
*12/31/09: Applied Lifting of Condition
*01/04/10: NOA
*02/12/10: Biometrics
*03/03/10: LOC approved
*03/11/10: 10 years green card received

* Naturalization Timeline *
*12/17/10: package sent
*12/29/10: NOA date
*01/19/11: biometrics
*04/12/11: interview
*04/15/11: approval letter
*05/13/11: Oath Ceremony - Officially done with Immigration.

Complete Timeline

Filed: AOS (apr) Country: Panama
Timeline
Posted
stupid.

also, the FBI ask all people who committed a crime to turn themselves in/./for a reduced sentence

WHAT??? You mean they don't turn themselves in already??????? :blink::blink::blink:

:lol:

I mean, seriously.... here I am thinking this sweetheart just walked in one day and said: "OK, since you're idiots and cannot catch me after more than 15 murders, I will give you a chance to fry my brains"...

ted.jpg

Good ol' Ted Bundy,what a guy ! :blink:

Don't hold your breath 'cause I can't picture a whole bunch of illegal immigrants volunteering for this #######. They're illegal, not stupid, there's a big difference.

Diana

Well...let's see...suppose you are an illegal alien from Kazahkstan and you are homesick for the Motherland...haven't seen mama, papa, and the folks back home in years...tired of living the illegal alien lifestyle...and maybe kind of disappointed that the illegal alien amnesty fell through in 2006, 2007, 2008, and uncertain in the future. Lots of stepped up enforcement actions going on. Workplace raids, arrests, jail terms, etc.

How about a free trip back home courtesy of the US taxpayer? It beats spending months in an overcrowded immigration detention prison while your deportation case languishes in administrative hell.

Who's being stupid now? ;)

Can I deport myself even if I was born here ? :unsure:

I want to deport myself to Brazil.

May 7,2007-USCIS received I-129f
July 24,2007-NOA1 was received
April 21,2008-K-1 visa denied.
June 3,2008-waiver filed at US Consalate in Panama
The interview went well,they told him it will take another 6 months for them to adjudicate the waiver
March 3,2009-US Consulate claims they have no record of our December visit,nor Manuel's interview
March 27,2009-Manuel returned to the consulate for another interrogation(because they forgot about December's interview),and they were really rude !
April 3,2009-US Counsalate asks for more court documents that no longer exist !
June 1,2009-Manuel and I go back to the US consalate AGAIN to give them a letter from the court in Colon along with documents I already gave them last year.I was surprised to see they had two thick files for his case !


June 15,2010-They called Manuel in to take his fingerprints again,still no decision on his case!
June 22,2010-WAIVER APPROVED at 5:00pm
July 19,2010-VISA IN MANUELITO'S HAND at 3:15pm!
July 25,2010-Manuelito arrives at 9:35pm at Logan Intn'l Airport,Boston,MA
August 5,2010-FINALLY MARRIED!!!!!!!!!!!!
August 23,2010-Filed for AOS at the International Institute of RI $1400!
December 23,2010-Work authorization received.
January 12,2011-RFE

 

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