(Illegal) Immigrant groups set to march in Houston on May 1

[peejay 327]

There is nothing wrong with enforcing employment verification and one person using one Social Security number. However, my reading of the OP was that the protesters would like to see comprehensive immigration reform - in this instance I understand that to mean making those who are illegal legal. You see this as 'rewarding bad behaviour' - which it may be - however other people see this as a good way of resovling the problem of 12? million illegal immigrants currently in the US. You are entitled to your opinion of course, but so are those protesters who are US citizens.

There has already been numerous "Comprehensive Immigration" reforms. Most Americans are tired of the lies.

Comprehensive Immigration Reform = AMNESTY

Here is the list of the 7 illegal alien amnesties starting in 1986 to present:

Congress has passed 7 amnesties for illegal aliens, starting in 1986.

1. Immigration and Reform Control Act (IRCA) Amnesty, 1986: A blanket amnesty for some 2.7 million illegal aliens

2. Section 245(i) Amnesty, 1994: A temporary rolling amnesty for 578,000 illegal aliens

3. Section 245(i) Extension Amnesty, 1997: An extension of the rolling amnesty created in 1994

4. Nicaraguan Adjustment and Central American Relief Act (NACARA) Amnesty, 1997: An amnesty for close to one million illegal aliens from Central America

5. Haitian Refugee Immigration Fairness Act Amnesty (HRIFA), 1998: An amnesty for 125,000 illegal aliens from Haiti

6. Late Amnesty, 2000: An amnesty for some illegal aliens who claim they should have been amnestied under the 1986 IRCA amnesty, an estimated 400,000 illegal aliens

7. LIFE Act Amnesty, 2000: A reinstatement of the rolling Section 245(i) amnesty, an estimated 900,000 illegal aliens

None of this stupidness has secured the border or stopped illegal immigration. It has only encouraged more illegal immigration and rewarded illegal aliens for breaking numerous US laws. Why go there again?

Insanity is doing the same stupid stuff over and over and over.........and expecting a different result.

[Peikko 1,575]

I can't imagine why anyone would think an amensty would secure the border or stop illegal immigration. There are immigration reforms that would, but certainly not amnesty on its own. Whether these amnesties were stupid or not rather depends on who you are I would imagine, certainly I know your view is that amnesty 'rewards bad behaviour' and that may be true. However, there are people out there who are legal US citizens who take a different view.

[mawilson 2,133]

I can't imagine why anyone would think an amensty would secure the border or stop illegal immigration. There are immigration reforms that would, but certainly not amnesty on its own. Whether these amnesties were stupid or not rather depends on who you are I would imagine, certainly I know your view is that amnesty 'rewards bad behaviour' and that may be true. However, there are people out there who are legal US citizens who take a different view.

Amnesty is also bad for business. Their labor is cheap only because it's illegal. Legalise them

and it won't be cheap anymore. It's best to keep them underground and exploit them until

they've had enough and are ready to go home.

[Ban Hammer 12,835]

I like illegals they make my life easier and cheaper

oops

Why the edit?

It was supposed to be a PM.

unless someone has a record of it, it didn't happen.

It happened. It's a record.

if so, then where is it?

[LaL 418]

Mawilson using PMs? News to me!

[mawilson 2,133]

Mawilson using PMs? News to me!

True, never used PMs.

I do use e-mail, however.

[Amby 490]

Mawilson using PMs? News to me!

True, never used PMs.

I do use e-mail, however.

oh yeah my bad...email

[pedroh 21]

oh lordie lord.. here we go again

[almaty 19]

posted by the vj Commies for Christ....

it is a relevant as this thread

[Gaby&Talbert 1]

There is nothing wrong with enforcing employment verification and one person using one Social Security number. However, my reading of the OP was that the protesters would like to see comprehensive immigration reform - in this instance I understand that to mean making those who are illegal legal. You see this as 'rewarding bad behaviour' - which it may be - however other people see this as a good way of resovling the problem of 12? million illegal immigrants currently in the US. You are entitled to your opinion of course, but so are those protesters who are US citizens.

Enforce first, resolve later - very simple.

Otherwise 20 years from now we will have to "resolve" another 40 million illegals.

Secure first, then enforce, then resolve. Enforcement without securing the border would be useless as well. If they can get here but only work illegally they will be forced into slavery, crime, poverty, and despair.

What are the motives behind the way our government is currently enforcing immigration laws? Is Ice being stepped up just to make the American public happy that something is being done now unlike before? If the motive is to deport all here illegally then why not just pass a law everyone in the US has to check in with Ice and if you don't they are coming door to door across the US to take you away period.

The government needs to decide what it wants and then do it 100%, doing it little by little is like torture. Or are the doing it the way they are so the public can see how deporting people for all different reasons and then letting the lawmakers determine if there is enough sympathy for certain groups? Should young adults that have been here since they were a baby be allowed to stay? Should a wife of a US citizen that died before their 2nd wedding anniversary be allowed to stay? Maybe these stories of deportation have to come out before our law makers can decide what is acceptable and what is not before the can pass anytype of immigration reform law?

[EstebanTrabajos 7]

[mawilson 2,133]

The government needs to decide what it wants and then do it 100%, doing it little by little is like torture. Or are the doing it the way they are so the public can see how deporting people for all different reasons and then letting the lawmakers determine if there is enough sympathy for certain groups? Should young adults that have been here since they were a baby be allowed to stay? Should a wife of a US citizen that died before their 2nd wedding anniversary be allowed to stay? Maybe these stories of deportation have to come out before our law makers can decide what is acceptable and what is not before the can pass anytype of immigration reform law?

Doing it little by little strikes fear in the hearts of illegals everywhere. They fear they will be next.

This strategy is called "enforcement by attrition".

Don't bring wives of U.S. citizens into this - they fall into a completely different immigration category

and you know it.

[Gaby&Talbert 1]

The government needs to decide what it wants and then do it 100%, doing it little by little is like torture. Or are the doing it the way they are so the public can see how deporting people for all different reasons and then letting the lawmakers determine if there is enough sympathy for certain groups? Should young adults that have been here since they were a baby be allowed to stay? Should a wife of a US citizen that died before their 2nd wedding anniversary be allowed to stay? Maybe these stories of deportation have to come out before our law makers can decide what is acceptable and what is not before the can pass anytype of immigration reform law?

Doing it little by little strikes fear in the hearts of illegals everywhere. They fear they will be next.

This strategy is called "enforcement by attrition".

Don't bring wives of U.S. citizens into this - they fall into a completely different immigration category

and you know it.

But that is still part of immigration reform that is needed. An immigrant wife of a USC who dies before their 2nd wedding anniversary will be deported. Also what about long waits on FBI name checks, what about long visa wait times, what about long delays that cause children to age out before an approval, these are still part of immigration reform that is needed aren't they?

[GaryC 7]

The government needs to decide what it wants and then do it 100%, doing it little by little is like torture. Or are the doing it the way they are so the public can see how deporting people for all different reasons and then letting the lawmakers determine if there is enough sympathy for certain groups? Should young adults that have been here since they were a baby be allowed to stay? Should a wife of a US citizen that died before their 2nd wedding anniversary be allowed to stay? Maybe these stories of deportation have to come out before our law makers can decide what is acceptable and what is not before the can pass anytype of immigration reform law?

Doing it little by little strikes fear in the hearts of illegals everywhere. They fear they will be next.

This strategy is called "enforcement by attrition".

Don't bring wives of U.S. citizens into this - they fall into a completely different immigration category

and you know it.

But that is still part of immigration reform that is needed. An immigrant wife of a USC who dies before their 2nd wedding anniversary will be deported. Also what about long waits on FBI name checks, what about long visa wait times, what about long delays that cause children to age out before an approval, these are still part of immigration reform that is needed aren't they?

That isn't true. A wife of a USC that dies can still remove conditions as long as they can prove the marriage was real and in good faith. Shoot, divorced immigrant women still remove conditions every day. The burden of proof is the same as those that are still married.