Passport revoked!

[tom&tata 2]

It'd make more sense to hire a solid lawyer to fight these things, especially when they are clearly in the wrong.

But I do know that if someone couldn't pay their child support they have zero business sponsoring someone for immigration. And anyone who would trust a foreign spouse to tell you the truth is asking for a lot of trouble. Long distance hides a lot of things and when there are giant red flags, I'd require a lot more than just his word for why things are as they are.

Past that, the poster implies that he has two children by two different mothers. That's another red flag. Two babies. Two different mothers, and now he wants to bring someone from another country into the mix. If you love drama, this guy sounds like a real winner.

What red flag? What is a problem with having 2 children with 2 different mothers? How about a woman having children with 2 different guys? Shessshhh.

To the OP, good luck. I do not have experience with child support system in US myself so I do not have advise to give.

[psiprez 3]

Falling behind on child support does not make one a dead beat dad. Really tired of this automatic connection always being made.

Google "definition of deadbeat dad" and see what comes up...

"a father who defaults on his obligation to provide financial support for his offspring "

"Deadbeat Dad is a pejorative term (primarily U.S.) that refers to men who have fathered a child but fail to pay child support ordered by a family law court or statutory agency such as the Child Support Agency."

Losing his passport simple serves to emphasize that he needs to take care of the family obligations he already has before assuming new ones with a new wife.

[Canuck78 0]

Gosh people can be SO judgmental without even knowing what is REALLY going on! It is easy to call someone a deadbeat dad when you don't know the details of the case.

My husband was in a very similar situation as az110965 and I was here to witness it, so I know it's the truth. My stepson's mom finally moved out of her mother's house and decided that the arrangement she had with my DH wasn't cutting it anymore and she wanted back child support for $7000. He did not owe her that money. We had to take the whole thing to Court where the judge finally agreed that she wasn't owed that money and actually told her that she was money hungry and you can't make an agreement with someone and then come back on it as "pay-back" (won't get into the whole story but had to do with custody battle). Anyways, it took months to get it all straightened out and he got some money garnished that shouldn't have been while waiting for the court date. He didn't have a passport at the time, but if he had, he would've been on the list.

So yeah don't be so quick to judge. Sometimes things are not as they seem.

[DanielParul 50]

Whatever the reasons.. he is still behind on his CS and has the money to court and marry another woman and sponsor her???

Sounds like, he needs to get his priorities right and she needs to seriously give it time and a lot of thinking....

Not to be judgemental, but right now isn't the priority to catch up on his CS than to be trying to get a new wife to the US

Just my $.02

Edited April 2, 2008 by DanielParul

[MsZ 6]

I'm not overly keen on women who have children with multiple men, either.

The point is one of responsibility. So let's talk red flags -- if he were married to both of them, the new woman would be Mrs. #3. That's a red flag. If he didn't marry either of them, he is irresponsible by making not just one mistake, but two and then not living up to his obligations. That's a red flag. One baby out of wedlock, OK. I'll give that a pass. But two? Sorry. No pass. And further, birth control. It is readily available. So, he had sex without protection. (And we can get into a lot of discussions about forms of birth control but if he'd have used a condom he would not only minimise the spread of STDs but more than likely would have prevented two babies he can't afford to take care of.)

And how much you want to bet he can't wait to make a baby with his new woman?

Riddle me this -- would you tell your daughter that this guy is a good risk, good enough to leave your home country for?

[Giskat09 2]

thanks.. everyone deserves a second chance....

i trust my husband and he is now paying off his debts... i am patiently waiting and him too... were too young still (25)... so im not in a hurry to fly to USA...

It takes time...

[✿Ice Rain✿ 0]

Hey girl, message me back.

[JaEnglishGirl 34]

His passport was revoked because of his unsettled debts in his child support.

My question is, Can he file me for a spouse visa even his passport was revoked? I mean, he can submit his birth certificate along with I-I30.

If ever he paid his balance, he can get his new passport. How long does it take for him to get a new passport? Some says, 3 months some 6 months... i dunn o the real deal....

Please help....

How comes he has money to file for YOU but not to pay his CHILD SUPPORT????

I'm sure he had them before you came about, so he needs to worry about that first.

[JaEnglishGirl 34]

Falling behind on child support does not make one a dead beat dad. Really tired of this automatic connection always being made.

I hear exactly what your saying. But in today's entitlement society CS is handed down as a punishment and there is no accountability for those who receive the funds. Furthermore if a person gets sick, is in between jobs or some other life changing event the system simply does not care. Sure a person can get the CS reduced if out of work but the problem is by the time the reduction is granted most are already in arrears. No matter what the situation is the person paying the CS is always labled a deadbeat.

Now dont get me wrong if someone out there is purposely avoiding the CS and making every attempt to skirt the collection then they should get hammered.

Makes me wonder if some who have posted here are angry because they didnt receive a few payments. Well all I gotta say to that is if your relying soley on the CS to make ends meet then you have got more serious problem than depending on that tax free check to help pay your bills.

I paid CS for over 15 years and not once did I ever fall behind but I have seen many instances where people have had valid reasons for falling behind only to be punished and branded a dead beat.

Sofargone

ACTUALLY, my son's dad is perilously close to losing his house and I've told him not to pay until he CAN, so much for YOUR theory....If he WAS sick or unemployed, fair enough, he can WAIT until he has PAID the money he OWES, and THEN sponsor the OP.

you dont know the story..... dont ever judige my husband!

I would lay money on YOU not knowing the FULL story either

I am sorry to hear that you have been trying to get CS for 20 years now.

May I ask why you even bother trying to collect after such a long period of time and the children involved must be in their 20's by now ? I assume they know they werent supported and as such made their own decisions on how to deal with it being adults now.

Dont get me wrong you were supposed to have received CS but after 20 years why even bother ?

Sofargone

Because she's OWED it????????

#######???

Suppose someone owed YOU $30, 000 for over 20 years, you'd just write it off????????????????

I sure as hell wouldn't.

[MsZ 6]

thanks.. everyone deserves a second chance....

i trust my husband and he is now paying off his debts... i am patiently waiting and him too... were too young still (25)... so im not in a hurry to fly to USA...

It takes time...

A second chance? Seems he had two chances not to make a baby and instead, he made two of them.

And he's only 25? Great. I'm sure your parents are very happy to know that their son-in-law is such a responsible person. Further, do you want a family? If so, how is he going to be able to afford one when he's already paying two different women for the families he already has?

To me, you are far too young to be involved with someone who has this kind of history and baggage because you're going to be paying along side of him for what he's done in the past. You are going to have some mighty large arguments with him over money and this issue and you're going to resent that his irresponsibility will prevent you from having the kind of life you'd like.

The only thing this guy has to offer is entry into the US. And by all rights, he shouldn't even be able to do that since that money is owed elsewhere.

[DanielParul 50]

A second chance? Seems he had two chances not to make a baby and instead, he made two of them.

And he's only 25? Great. I'm sure your parents are very happy to know that their son-in-law is such a responsible person. Further, do you want a family? If so, how is he going to be able to afford one when he's already paying two different women for the families he already has?

To me, you are far too young to be involved with someone who has this kind of history and baggage because you're going to be paying along side of him for what he's done in the past. You are going to have some mighty large arguments with him over money and this issue and you're going to resent that his irresponsibility will prevent you from having the kind of life you'd like.

The only thing this guy has to offer is entry into the US. And by all rights, he shouldn't even be able to do that since that money is owed elsewhere.

[Giskat09 2]

would you all still love your spouse if ever he/she has a love child???

Me? I DO and its not about the past of the person you love, its you and him how to have a good and better future... In rich and in poorer, till death do us part... Thats the covenant we made and me or either him wont try to break that...

I'm not after USA.... its just a country and one day all of us will die and turn into dust. We can't bring any bucks or gold that we have in our own coffin except one thing our SOUL...

May you have a good soul and legacy while you're still alive and kicking in these wicked world... Life is short so be good to all men....

Hope all of you have a a great day..

[✿Ice Rain✿ 0]

Geez!! I just cant believe some people here. Anyway, their words/answers reflects to what kind of person they are.

And for you Jiskat, good luck to you and your husband, you'll surpass this, everything will be okay, its just a matter of time..

And its just a test of how strong your love is for each other.

And to some other people here , ESPECIALLY BAD POSTERS, you knew who you are. WISHING YOU SUCCESS in your loved ones.

[pushbrk 12,119]

hello sir,

i read your reply in my post PASSPORT REVOKED... and actually many people here are throwing criticism to my husband and they really dont know what is story behind and the reason why my husband didn't able to pay the support..

Anyways at this time he is paying it off so it takes time for him to pay it in full but i still do believe that he can get me maybe next year i can fly in USA.. All im asking is help not criticism.

GOD bless you and thank you for sharing ur story about ur situation.. add me here sir if u want.

Kathy

The answer to your original question is yes, your husband can send a copy of his birth certificate as evidence of citizenship. You probably already know that but I haven't seen it posted as a straight answer.

Why the VJ moderators allow such judgmental off topic rants to remain visible baffles my mind.

[MsZ 6]

A love child? How about a can't keep it in his pants child? Or make that children. Or how about a doesn't have responsible sex child?

And no, if my husband cheated and had a child outside of the marriage, I would divorce him so fast he wouldnt' know what hit him. But you married him after the fact. This guy wouldn't even be on my radar because he is not a suitable partner. But enjoy living in denial believing that love is all that matters. You'll soon find out that is far from the truth.

As for people who think that exercising judgement is a bad thing, again I challenge you to tell whether you'd recommend this guy to your daughter.