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Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: India
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I dont think it is worth the time to try this one. I received the actual fee bill one week after generated and I just got off the phone with NVC and told them I was concerned about the IV fee because I had mailed it over 2 weeks ago and it still had not been cashed, should I stop payment on that one and send another? they first told me that it was sent back because the barcoded sheet was missing (it was there just not with the bottom barcode). I told them I sent it, the operator said just a moment and when she returned she said it is ok, it wasnt sent back and to call back in 2 weeks. I clarified that it would be processed and I should hear something on the automated system in a week or 2? she confirmed yes.

This has been a very unsettling 2 weeks for me but I am thankful to know that the payment was kept and will be processed, but I think they are making me wait to continue because of the missing barcode. But I have to also say it didnt slow down my process because we had some unexpected paperwork issues to deal with, I have to wait for maybe 2 weeks for that to be ready and I am sure I wont need to try the last DS-230 shortcut either, I will have the barcode from them by that time :wacko: .

06/11/2007 Married

07/23/2007 Sent I-130 (priority date)

08/02/2007 NOA-1

12/21/2007 Approval (checked online)Merry Christmas

12/26/2007 NAO-2 postmarked

NVC

01/07/2008 NVC received case number assigned

01/28/2008 NVC generates and mails DS-3032 and AOS bill

01/29/2008 (DS-3032 request emailed by husband and fee paid using James shortcuts)

02/01/2008 AOS fee bill received by NVC

02/05/2008 I-864 packet generated (called NVC for this information)

02/09/2008 mailed I-864 packet priority mail

02/11/2008 IV Fee bill generated and paid IV bill using experimental shortcut

02/19/2008 recieved IV fee bill

03/24/2008 DS-230 generated (NVC operator informed me)

04/21/2008 CASE COMPLETE/ interview date JUNE 6th

06/06/2008 AP

12/15/2008 case returned for further review

10/01/2009 USCIS REAFFIRMS APPROVAL CASE SENT TO DOS

11/09/2009 CASE BACK IN CHENNAI

12/10/2009 2ND INTERVIEW rescheduled twice, now Feb. 12th 2010

02/19/2010 Passport with IR-1 visa recieved

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I dont think it is worth the time to try this one. I received the actual fee bill one week after generated and I just got off the phone with NVC and told them I was concerned about the IV fee because I had mailed it over 2 weeks ago and it still had not been cashed, should I stop payment on that one and send another? they first told me that it was sent back because the barcoded sheet was missing (it was there just not with the bottom barcode). I told them I sent it, the operator said just a moment and when she returned she said it is ok, it wasnt sent back and to call back in 2 weeks. I clarified that it would be processed and I should hear something on the automated system in a week or 2? she confirmed yes.

This has been a very unsettling 2 weeks for me but I am thankful to know that the payment was kept and will be processed, but I think they are making me wait to continue because of the missing barcode. But I have to also say it didnt slow down my process because we had some unexpected paperwork issues to deal with, I have to wait for maybe 2 weeks for that to be ready and I am sure I wont need to try the last DS-230 shortcut either, I will have the barcode from them by that time :wacko: .

Yeah, today was the day to start inquiring more seriously about it.

Probably your payment will post this week, now that they know you are following up on it. If so, you didn't really lose any time for trying this, though I agree trying an experimental shortcut like this can be an unsettling time.

Your experience evidences that automated processing did not occur on this type of defective payment coupon. Without automated processing, it is not a shortcut! I will add a comment into the proposed shortcut thread shortly about your approach that did not work and how you resolved the matter (when you finally get the payment posted).

IR-5 Immediate relative parent of adult U.S. citizen, §201(b)

I-130 [100 Days] (+10 days transiting)

03/30/07 Naturalization oath

03/30/07 I-130 sent to VSC priority mail

04/09/07 NOA "Received Date"

05/08/07 NOA1 issued by CSC, rcvd 05/11/07

07/18/07 I-130 approved!

07/23/07 NOA2 received

NVC [73 Days] (+23 days transiting) ** using James' NVC Shortcuts 2.0 **

08/10/07 NVC received, case number MOS*** assigned

08/20/07 DS-3032 & I-864 fee bill generated

08/23/07 DS-3032 delivered to NVC

08/23/07 I-864 payt delivered to St. Louis

08/27/07 IV fee bill generated

08/28/07 I-864 payt processed

09/03/07 I-864 package generated

09/08/07 IV fee bill received & payt sent

09/11/07 IV payt delivered to St. Louis

09/13/07 I-864 entered onto case

09/17/07 IV payt processed

09/24/07 DS-230 generated

09/25/07 I-864 RFE issued

10/01/07 I-864 RFE & DS-230 delivered to NVC

10/04/07 I-864 RFE & DS-230 entered onto case

10/22/07 Case complete at NVC!

12/10/07 NVC schedules the interview, finally!

12/17/07 Case left NVC

Embassy (Moscow)

12/20/07 Medical exam

01/10/08 Interview APPROVED!

01/15/08 Visa rcvd!

01/26/08 Entered USA

02/04/08 SSN card rcvd (from DS-230 appl./EAE)

02/16,21,25/08 OS155A msg. from TSC

02/28/08 PR card rcvd!

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Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: India
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I will post as soon as the check is cashed...I will be calling the bank again tomorrow and the day after that ect...till I hear it has cleared. and of course I will be checking automated system on friday night/saturday morning and tuesday morning as usual (maybe inbetween times too :P ).

06/11/2007 Married

07/23/2007 Sent I-130 (priority date)

08/02/2007 NOA-1

12/21/2007 Approval (checked online)Merry Christmas

12/26/2007 NAO-2 postmarked

NVC

01/07/2008 NVC received case number assigned

01/28/2008 NVC generates and mails DS-3032 and AOS bill

01/29/2008 (DS-3032 request emailed by husband and fee paid using James shortcuts)

02/01/2008 AOS fee bill received by NVC

02/05/2008 I-864 packet generated (called NVC for this information)

02/09/2008 mailed I-864 packet priority mail

02/11/2008 IV Fee bill generated and paid IV bill using experimental shortcut

02/19/2008 recieved IV fee bill

03/24/2008 DS-230 generated (NVC operator informed me)

04/21/2008 CASE COMPLETE/ interview date JUNE 6th

06/06/2008 AP

12/15/2008 case returned for further review

10/01/2009 USCIS REAFFIRMS APPROVAL CASE SENT TO DOS

11/09/2009 CASE BACK IN CHENNAI

12/10/2009 2ND INTERVIEW rescheduled twice, now Feb. 12th 2010

02/19/2010 Passport with IR-1 visa recieved

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Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: China
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what i am thinking, if anyone trying to do this experiment is post the different payment coupon

so that we can see that different in the number at the end of the case number.

if we can crack that number i believe the payment will process.

Marriage : 2006-05-17

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I-130 Sent : 2007-06-12
I-130 Approved : 2007-12-05
Status: Take 179 days to complete, because of notarize marriage certificate(RFE).

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NVC Process
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NVC Received : 2007-12-06
Case Completed at NVC : 2008-03-13 Case Complete Forward to Embassy
Case Left NVC : 2008-03-18
Status: Take 97 days to complete, because of the tax return and w2 (RFE),

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Consulate Process
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Consulate Received : 5/12/2008 Eligible for interview, waiting for notice (Per DOS)
Packet 4 Received : 6/11/2008
Interview Date : 7/10/2008 interview at 7:15am (Per DOS)
Blue - Required Overcome. Overcome send 7/24
8/19/2008 Going back to GUZ to get visa stamp
Visa Received : 8/22/2008
US Entry : 10/17/2008 JFK Port of Entry

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N-400 Filed: 11/25/2012

Interview Date: 1/2013 (Passed)

Ceremony: 03/2013

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Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: India
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hi,

Shortcuts are costly my friend, there is always a fear. Short cuts dont click for all. I will pray you get out of this mess.

Jigi

Feb 1,2007 - I-130 Reached USCIS.

Feb 4,2007 - I-130 accepted > Get USCIS case Number NOA1.

May 8 ,2007- GET NVC Case Number > NOA2.

June 16 ,2007- Get Order from NVC to pay 70$.

July 2 ,2007- Get DS-3032 in India.

July 7,2007 - DS-3032 choice of address agent entered in NVC.

July 14 ,2007- Get I-864.

July 18 ,2007- I-864 Enters NVC.

July 29 ,2007- Get Order to Pay 380$ fee.

Aug 3 ,2007- 380$ Fee Reached St Louis.

Aug 25,2007 - NVC & St Louis People receive photocopy of my payment with USPS receipt.

After WAITING for 37 days.

Sept 10,2007 - 380$ fee encashed.

Sept 24,2007 - Receive DS-230 in Mail.

Sept 25,2007 - DS-230 despatched.

Sept 26,2007- DS-230 Delivered.

Oct 1,2007 - NVC has DS-230.

Oct 12, 2007 - DS-230 Reviewed. Case Complete

Oct 16, 2007 - Case at Embassy.

Oct 25, 2007- Interview Letter Despatched from Embassy.

Nov 3, 2007 - Recieved Interview Letter.

Dec 1, 2007 - Medical Exam .

I GOT IT

Jan 16 - I am in USA

April 15 2008 - Get my Drivers License.

I-751 Lifting Conditions at California Service Center

November 12, 2009 - I-751 Sent via USPS Express Mail

November 13, 2009 - Receipt of I-1751 Fee

November 20, 2009 - Arrested on Domestic Battery(Had argument with wife)

December 18, 2009 - Biometrics Completed at 9 am.

January 13, 2010 - Receive I-797E Notice for more evidence

February 16, 2010 - Mail reaches Californa Service Center( Next day of Preseidents Day)

February 19, 2010 - Card Production Ordered. Status now IR1

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We should all give a big thanks for having the guts to give it a try. +1 to you man (or lady :P).

Hopefully, they won't take forever with your processing.

Edited by KyanWan


The moral of my story: Stick with someone who matches your own culture.

( This coming from an Arab who married an Arab from overseas... go figure. )

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I dont think it is worth the time to try this one. I received the actual fee bill one week after generated and I just got off the phone with NVC and told them I was concerned about the IV fee because I had mailed it over 2 weeks ago and it still had not been cashed, should I stop payment on that one and send another? they first told me that it was sent back because the barcoded sheet was missing (it was there just not with the bottom barcode). I told them I sent it, the operator said just a moment and when she returned she said it is ok, it wasnt sent back and to call back in 2 weeks. I clarified that it would be processed and I should hear something on the automated system in a week or 2? she confirmed yes.

This has been a very unsettling 2 weeks for me but I am thankful to know that the payment was kept and will be processed, but I think they are making me wait to continue because of the missing barcode. But I have to also say it didnt slow down my process because we had some unexpected paperwork issues to deal with, I have to wait for maybe 2 weeks for that to be ready and I am sure I wont need to try the last DS-230 shortcut either, I will have the barcode from them by that time :wacko: .

Yeah I dont think its worth it but I thank you for trying. I know you just took one for the team.

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I thought of this, and I am a person who had the opportunity.

No one would want to post their case numbers on a public forum, but I applied for my wife and daughter at the same time.

Their USCIS numbers were 26 apart, and their NVC number were only 2 apart.

Sadly when they barcode for IV bill came, the extra number had no correlation.

I tried summing, subtracting, computing crc, many different algorithms, and nothing matched.

I really think the 4 digits are just some number they tack onto the end.

I thought of this, and I am a person who had the opportunity.

No one would want to post their case numbers on a public forum, but I applied for my wife and daughter at the same time.

Their USCIS numbers were 26 apart, and their NVC number were only 2 apart.

Sadly when they barcode for IV bill came, the extra number had no correlation.

I tried summing, subtracting, computing crc, many different algorithms, and nothing matched.

I really think the 4 digits are just some number they tack onto the end.

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I am sure there are many before us that have questioned what those mystery numbers are, and from what I have read it was decided that they were random, it may have to do with the number of bills printed on that day in that month(?????) I dont think there is anyway to really find out.

I thought about the risk I was taking and talked with my husband at length before undertaking this. we both decided that some times we have to stretch the limits in order to achieve better results (shortcuts are not always a bad thing, you have to use a little common sense in deciding if the risk outweighs the benifit). I think all of us are tired of being seperated from our loved ones and if there is a way to make the wait shorter without jeapordizing everything we would do what it takes. Some people are more conservative and thats ok for them. I dont judge anyone for wanting to take the safe road.

If it only takes a week for the IV fee bill to arrive after being generated all the time then there is no reall reason for a short cut on this one. But I do know that my method was not a good one(nothing ventured nothing gained).

I didnt lose anything by trying this, as I said we are waiting some unexpected documents anyway.

06/11/2007 Married

07/23/2007 Sent I-130 (priority date)

08/02/2007 NOA-1

12/21/2007 Approval (checked online)Merry Christmas

12/26/2007 NAO-2 postmarked

NVC

01/07/2008 NVC received case number assigned

01/28/2008 NVC generates and mails DS-3032 and AOS bill

01/29/2008 (DS-3032 request emailed by husband and fee paid using James shortcuts)

02/01/2008 AOS fee bill received by NVC

02/05/2008 I-864 packet generated (called NVC for this information)

02/09/2008 mailed I-864 packet priority mail

02/11/2008 IV Fee bill generated and paid IV bill using experimental shortcut

02/19/2008 recieved IV fee bill

03/24/2008 DS-230 generated (NVC operator informed me)

04/21/2008 CASE COMPLETE/ interview date JUNE 6th

06/06/2008 AP

12/15/2008 case returned for further review

10/01/2009 USCIS REAFFIRMS APPROVAL CASE SENT TO DOS

11/09/2009 CASE BACK IN CHENNAI

12/10/2009 2ND INTERVIEW rescheduled twice, now Feb. 12th 2010

02/19/2010 Passport with IR-1 visa recieved

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We discussed that number in the original thread, when Chris was thinking about making the IV fee bill.

Indianheart good for you for giving it a go! Anyway, I used an RFE shortcut that didn't pan out, not sure why, but my advice to to you would be to wait a week - then get a supervisor at NVC involved. To do this you just have to be firm, don't need to give the original operator many details, just let them know that your IV fee bill is taking a ridiculously long time, if you are firm they will put you through.

The operators at NVC told me to ignore the message that another RFE was being sent (for the piece of information that I sent using a shortcut) - my file sat there doing nothing for 5 weeks. Now whether I should have ignored the second RFE or not I don't know, I ended up sending the info again when I got that 2nd hard copy RFE.

In my case I believe they actually sat on our file because I used a shortcut. (no relation to James's shortcuts btw).

Anyway, good luck to you!

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Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: India
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We discussed that number in the original thread, when Chris was thinking about making the IV fee bill.

Indianheart good for you for giving it a go! Anyway, I used an RFE shortcut that didn't pan out, not sure why, but my advice to to you would be to wait a week - then get a supervisor at NVC involved. To do this you just have to be firm, don't need to give the original operator many details, just let them know that your IV fee bill is taking a ridiculously long time, if you are firm they will put you through.

The operators at NVC told me to ignore the message that another RFE was being sent (for the piece of information that I sent using a shortcut) - my file sat there doing nothing for 5 weeks. Now whether I should have ignored the second RFE or not I don't know, I ended up sending the info again when I got that 2nd hard copy RFE.

In my case I believe they actually sat on our file because I used a shortcut. (no relation to James's shortcuts btw).

Anyway, good luck to you!

I got the impression that it was being sat on just as you say. I asked if I should cancel the check and send another and they said just a min and put me on hold, when they returned they first said it was sent back because they didnt get the barcoded paper with the check and I said I sent the barcoded paper with it. They again said "just a min", when they return to the line they said it is ok no need to send another. I am assuming from that they are going to process it and I asked specifically if I would hear that change in the automated system and they said yes. so I feel like it is going to be processed but I will keep calling the bank for varification of the check to clear and of course I have NVC phone number memorized...I will be giving the system a call tomorrow and sat, if no change a call to operator monday.

thanks for the kudos, someone has to step out occasionally and if not for the brave souls that have gone before we would all be waiting years to get through this.

06/11/2007 Married

07/23/2007 Sent I-130 (priority date)

08/02/2007 NOA-1

12/21/2007 Approval (checked online)Merry Christmas

12/26/2007 NAO-2 postmarked

NVC

01/07/2008 NVC received case number assigned

01/28/2008 NVC generates and mails DS-3032 and AOS bill

01/29/2008 (DS-3032 request emailed by husband and fee paid using James shortcuts)

02/01/2008 AOS fee bill received by NVC

02/05/2008 I-864 packet generated (called NVC for this information)

02/09/2008 mailed I-864 packet priority mail

02/11/2008 IV Fee bill generated and paid IV bill using experimental shortcut

02/19/2008 recieved IV fee bill

03/24/2008 DS-230 generated (NVC operator informed me)

04/21/2008 CASE COMPLETE/ interview date JUNE 6th

06/06/2008 AP

12/15/2008 case returned for further review

10/01/2009 USCIS REAFFIRMS APPROVAL CASE SENT TO DOS

11/09/2009 CASE BACK IN CHENNAI

12/10/2009 2ND INTERVIEW rescheduled twice, now Feb. 12th 2010

02/19/2010 Passport with IR-1 visa recieved

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We discussed that number in the original thread, when Chris was thinking about making the IV fee bill.

Indianheart good for you for giving it a go! Anyway, I used an RFE shortcut that didn't pan out, not sure why, but my advice to to you would be to wait a week - then get a supervisor at NVC involved. To do this you just have to be firm, don't need to give the original operator many details, just let them know that your IV fee bill is taking a ridiculously long time, if you are firm they will put you through.

The operators at NVC told me to ignore the message that another RFE was being sent (for the piece of information that I sent using a shortcut) - my file sat there doing nothing for 5 weeks. Now whether I should have ignored the second RFE or not I don't know, I ended up sending the info again when I got that 2nd hard copy RFE.

In my case I believe they actually sat on our file because I used a shortcut. (no relation to James's shortcuts btw).

Anyway, good luck to you!

It could have been a case of:

"Hmm, this person isn't using an attorney yet they know what's going on ... suspicious......."

Knowing too much can be a double edged sword at times.


The moral of my story: Stick with someone who matches your own culture.

( This coming from an Arab who married an Arab from overseas... go figure. )

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the numbers on the IV bill, which follow the NVC case number are sequential, not random. we have two applicants who have NVC case numbers one digit apart (e.g. 123 and 124). the mystery numbers on the IV bill were also one apart.

btw did we really need 3 (three) threads about this? i thought it'd make more sense to put everything in C. Parker's original thread on the topic. also, to me it seems a bit early to deem this experiment a failure but whatever..

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Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: India
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Finally the check was cashed on the 21st of march....nearly 6 weeks later. What a relief finally to be back on track again :thumbs:

06/11/2007 Married

07/23/2007 Sent I-130 (priority date)

08/02/2007 NOA-1

12/21/2007 Approval (checked online)Merry Christmas

12/26/2007 NAO-2 postmarked

NVC

01/07/2008 NVC received case number assigned

01/28/2008 NVC generates and mails DS-3032 and AOS bill

01/29/2008 (DS-3032 request emailed by husband and fee paid using James shortcuts)

02/01/2008 AOS fee bill received by NVC

02/05/2008 I-864 packet generated (called NVC for this information)

02/09/2008 mailed I-864 packet priority mail

02/11/2008 IV Fee bill generated and paid IV bill using experimental shortcut

02/19/2008 recieved IV fee bill

03/24/2008 DS-230 generated (NVC operator informed me)

04/21/2008 CASE COMPLETE/ interview date JUNE 6th

06/06/2008 AP

12/15/2008 case returned for further review

10/01/2009 USCIS REAFFIRMS APPROVAL CASE SENT TO DOS

11/09/2009 CASE BACK IN CHENNAI

12/10/2009 2ND INTERVIEW rescheduled twice, now Feb. 12th 2010

02/19/2010 Passport with IR-1 visa recieved

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