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Hello everybody...

I finally finished answer for 34.a questions i want you to give me your opinions. any feedback appreciated.

here it is

We first met at --- Lounge/Bar in Miami Beach in July 2009. Till 2011 we kept in touch time by time. Our first initial meeting/going out happened on March 17th to 20th 2011 when (petitioner) travelled to Washington DC to spend time with (beneficiary) and our relationship officially started at that time.

After (beneficiary) moved back to her country (Russia) in April of 2011. We started having long distance relationship via Skype calls, text message, Facebook message, viber message everyday. 3 months after she moved back, we had our first meeting in Turkey from July 20th to August 3rd 2011. We stayed at pet’s family summer house together with pet.’s mother in Turkey. After summer 2011, we couldn’t see each other in winter time of 2012 but we kept in touch everyday via internet/video calls.

Starting from summer 2012, beneficiary and I decided to be together whole summer because we miss each other in winter time a lot.

Summer 2012:

· June 6th to September 3rd 2012: We were in I/ Turkey Summer house.

Total of 90 days together.

· August 1st 2012 for 1 day, we went to Chios Island in Greece.

Winter 2013:

· February 28th to March 6th 2013: We went to Barcelona, Spain. Total of 7 days.

Summer 2013:

· May 28th to August 26th 2013: We met in Istanbul to stay 4 days then we stayed in summer house in Izmir whole summer. Total of 91 days.

· July 24th 2013 for 1 day, we went to Chios Island in Greece.

Winter 2014:

· January 20th to January 27th 2014: We went to Rome and Pisa Italy. Total of 8 days.

Summer 2014:

· June 17th to September 11th 2014: We rented an apartment near sea side in Didim, Turkey to stay for a month. Then we moved to our summer house in Izmir, Turkey. Total of 87 days together.

· August 14th 2014 for 1 day, we went to Chios Island in Greece.

Winter 2015:

· March 17th to March 24th 2015: We went to Punta Cana, Dominican Republic. Total of 8 days.

What do you guys think? I have all the itineraries and passport stamps as well as alot of pictures to support...

i just want to point out that i was married in 2009 and after i divorce my relationship started.. do you think this is bad???

Edited by ce2010

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I can only repeat: We used only the lines in the form itself, no extra sheet:

Met in Sept./Oct. 2014 in Tucson and Dec./Jan 2015 in Houston. Have known each other since pet. was exchange student at UTEP in 1993.

Passed fine with no RFE - but I don't know if Russia is a "high-risk country" that requires more explanation or you have other aspects that might be unusual.

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basically i include how we meet first time to what we did last 2 years in the same document... is it fine ?

It's too much. Pick one meeting within the last two years and list that. Two sentences max. Save the whole summary for the interview.

You don't get extra credit for multiple meetings.

Edited by baron555

Phil (Lockport, near Chicago) and Alla (Lobnya, near Moscow)

As of Dec 7, 2009, now Zero miles apart (literally)!

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I wrote a relationship summary very similar to this. I am only about a month into the process so I have no idea what the outcome will be (RFE or not). I also included photos with dates, airline tickets, visa stamps, other receipts, etc... I'd say just include whatever you have, in whichever format you are comfortable with. All of our relationships are different and that will be reflected in the way we each put our packet together. Good luck!


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When I submitted my petition for my fiancé in November 2014. I wrote a letter in regards to our relationship and I am still waiting for approval. If it makes you feel comfortable by submitting please do so. I did.


 

 

K-1: Texas Service Center

Consulate: HAITI

(L)(L)(L) Met 2/8/2014: In Punta Cana, Dominican Republic (L)(L) (L)

Second Visit: 8 Days: (April 28, 2014--May 5, 2014)

Third Visit: 11 Days: (Sept. 14, 2014--Sept. 24, 2014)

Fourth Visit: 9 Days: (Oct. 28, 2014--Nov. 5, 2014)

Fifth Visit: 4 Days: ( Jan. 19, 2015--Jan. 23, 2015)

Sixth Visit: 9 Days: (May 26, 2015--June 3, 2015)

Seventh Visit: 10 Days: August 23, 2015---September 1, 2015) Birthday Celebration: My fiancé (Aug 24) and mine is (Aug 30)

K-1 Visa Process Started

  • Petitioner
  • I-129F Sent On: 11/17/2014
  • USPS Notice of Delivery: 11/19/2014
  • Received N01 Text Message and Email from USCIS: 11/24/2014 @1204pm CST
  • Hardcopy In Mail: 11/28/2014
  •  No Request for Evidence (RFE
  • Received N02 Email Received Only from USCIS: 05/21/2015 @842pm CST (183 Days Counting Weekends and Holidays Included in Total)
  • Received N02 Hardcopy In Mail: 05/28/2015
  • Received Email Petition was sent to NVC/DOS on: 06/04/2015 @642pm CST(9 Business Days/ No Weekends/Holidays are Included in Total)
  • Received By NVC: 06/12/2015 (6 Business Days/No Weekends/Holidays are Included in Total)
  • Left NVC: 06/15/2015
  • Consulate Received Case: 06/24/2015 (9 Days including Weekends )
  • Sent Email to Consulate for (Package 3) : 07/01/2015 @0115am CST (Package 3 for K-1/K-2 Fiancé Visa in Haiti:(Includes the Welcome Letter, and Instructions for K-1/K-2 Fiancé Visas)
  • Received Email from Consulate with (Package 3 info): 07/02/2015 @1210pm CST
  • DS 160: 06/25/2015
  • Received Letter from NVC and Port-Au-Prince Consulate Welcome Letter and Instructions(Package 3) on: 07/20/2015 (26 Days including Weekends and Holidays)
  • VISA Fee Paid: $265.00 (Once the Embassy has confirmed payment they will send you a email to schedule appointment) Received email on 07/22/2015 @ 3am CST
  • Medical: 07/21/2015 (No Appointment needed for Medical Exam: You will need to have the Visa Fee Payment Confirmation Page (Showing Scheduled Interview Date), or Package 3 for K-1 Visa, Passport ,and Exam Fee)
  • Interview Date: 08/25/2015 @7AM "Your fiancé will need the following items": Appointment Letter, (2) Passport Photos, DS-160 Confirmation Page, Receipt from Sogexpress showing payment of visa fees, Original Copy of Extrait d'Acte de Naissance-Extract of Certificate of Birth (No Translation Needed for interview), Police Certificate (from the Dominican Republic no translation needed), (2) Passport Bio Page, Sealed Medical Exam with Vaccinations/CD and Divorce Decree from both Petitioner and Beneficiary . (Didn't ask for any additional information during the interview like: I-134, Letter of Employment, Tax Returns, Pay Stubs, Photos, and/or Trip Itineraries)
  • :dancing: Approval: YES :dancing:
  • CEAC Web Status Update: "Ready" Case Creation Date: Case Updated September 1, 2015 (Non-Immigrant Visa Application)
  • CEAC Web Status Update: "Issued" Case Updated September 3, 2015
  • According to passportstatus@ustraveldocs.com on September 8, 2015 @604pm CST "Current passport status is in Origination Scan".
  • According to ustraveldocs on September 8, 2015 @ 0705pm " Passport has been received from the consular section, and is currently being processed for delivery ".
  • Received Email from ustraveldocs on September 9, 2015 @0609am CST. "Passport is Ready For Pickup".
  • :dancing: Visa Received: 09/09/2015 :dancing: "My fiancé picked up Passport @10am, from DHL International PAP'. 11 Business Days (Your fiancé will need a copy of the email in order to pickup passport and appointment letter). The Email state(s): "Your document(s) have been collected from the US Embassy/Consulate, The passport number#, You have chosen to have your documents delivered to the following location: DHL International "
  • U.S. Entry: 11/08/2015 (POE ATLANTA)
  • Applied for SSN in Memphis, TN : 11/23/2015
  • Received SSN: 11/30/2015
  • Date of Marriage: 12/31/2015
  • Applied for TN ID: 01/07/2016 (Needed Marriage License, Passport, Social Security Card(His), TN DL (Mine), and Voter Registration Card(Mine) that has my current address).

SINCE THE BEGINNING OF 2015 THE CONSULATE IN HAITI STOPPED USING HAITI MESSENGER; THEY NOW USE DHL INTERNATIONAL THERE ARE (4) LOCATIONS: PORT-AU-PRINCE, CARREFOUR, PETION-VILLE, AND CAP-HAITIEN. THE ADDRESS AND HOURS OF OPERATION ARE LOCATED IN MY PROFILE ABOUT ME.

  •  We stayed 6 days at the Kemael Hotel Tabarre 58, Rue C. Sylvain #4 Tabarre Haiti $80.00USD per night. It is off Boulevard 15 Octobre
  •  Or you can stay at the Le Monte Cristo Hotel & Suites Tabarre 60, Boulevard 15 Octobre, Tabarre Haiti $90.00USD per night

 

 

 

AOS: Memphis, TN

  • Married New Year's Eve 2015 (12/31/2015)
  • New Medical Exam Done On: 03/11/2016 (No Vaccinations Given In Haiti with Medical Exam 07/2015)
  • Received Results On: 03/15/2016
  • Sent by FedEx on: 03/17/2016; I-485, I-131, I-765
  • Email From FedEx Package Received on 03/18/2016 @1015am
  • Received (3) Text Messages on: 03/22/2016 @ 1119pm CST With Receipt Number MSC*****
  • Received NO1 For All Three for I-485, I-765, and I-131 by Mail on March 28, 2016 @4pm
  • Received Biometrics Appointment Date on April 19, 2016 Memphis, TN: Date of Notice April 2,2016; Mailed April 6, 2016: Received Appointment Letter April 10, 2016.
  • Biometrics Appointment 15 minutes and done.
  • Received Text/Email:EAD/AP Approved May 11, 2016
  • Received Approval NO2 for I-765, and I-131 in Mail on May 16, 2016
  • Received EAD/AP Combo Card in Mail on May 18, 2016
  • Received Text/Email: RFE for I-485 on August 31, 2016 we have to respond by September 30,2016
  • Placed on Request online for RFE hardcopy to be sent by mail on September 14, 2016
  • As of October 4, 2016 Still waiting for RFE hardcopy to come in the mail, called USCIS on September 30, 2016 no help.
  • As of November 3, 2016 We received an email in regards to not receiving in the mail the Request for Evidence (RFE) , come to find out they really didn't need any additional information. So now the have to wait another 120 more days before we can get an interview or approval. This is some BS.
  • As of February 7, 2017, We received in the mail Interview Date for AOS on March 20, 2017

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Well, we did describe how we first met, when we visited, and when we got engaged, then made sure to state the dates we had met most recently to fulfill the within two year requirement. However it was no more than a small simple one paragraph statement. I can't fault you for wanting to be descriptive, but you may want to cut out a timeline, it's not really necessary. There's nothing wrong with the initial two small statements you have made, however I think you should reword it to mention the last times you saw each other meeting the within two year requirement. Your divorce has no bearing on the meeting requirement question in particular, as long as your divorce was finalized and you're sending proof of that.


K-1 - AOS & ROC Timeline  - Immigration and the Health Exchange Price of Love in the UK Thinking of Returning to UK?

 

First met: 12/31/04 - Engaged: 9/24/09
Filed I-129F: 10/4/14 - Packet received: 10/7/14
NOA 1 email + ARN assigned: 10/10/14 (hard copy 10/17/14)
Touched on website (fixed?): 12/9/14 - Poked USCIS: 4/1/15
NOA 2 email: 5/4/15 (hard copy 5/11/15)
Sent to NVC: 5/8/15 - NVC received + #'s assigned: 5/15/15 (estimated)
NVC sent: 5/19/15 - London received/ready: 5/26/15
Packet 3: 5/28/15 - Medical: 6/16/15
Poked London 7/1/15 - Packet 4: 7/2/15
Interview: 7/30/15 - Approved!
AP + Issued 8/3/15 - Visa in hand (depot): 8/6/15
POE: 8/27/15

Wedding: 9/30/15

Filed I-485, I-131, I-765: 11/7/15

Packet received: 11/9/15

NOA 1 txt/email: 11/15/15 - NOA 1 hardcopy: 11/19/15

Bio: 12/9/15

EAD + AP approved: 1/25/16 - EAD received: 2/1/16

RFE for USCIS inability to read vax instructions: 5/21/16 (no e-notification & not sent from local office!)

RFE response sent: 6/7/16 - RFE response received 6/9/16

AOS approved/card in production: 6/13/16  

NOA 2 hardcopy + card sent 6/17/16

Green Card received: 6/18/16

USCIS 120 day reminder notice: 2/22/18

Filed I-751: 5/2/18 - Packet received: 5/4/18

NOA 1:  5/29/18 (12 mo) 8/13/18 (18 mo)  - Bio: 6/27/18

 

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We wrote a long explanation about how we met, kind of like yours. Everyone on vj says it should be a couple of sentences. But if you send this in it will go through well. We got our NOA-2 no problem.

Edited by Ksenia1985

Legal Permanent Resident since 09.15.2015

 

ROC timeline

06.19.2017 I-751 mailed

06.22.2017 package delivered to Laguna Niguel PO box

06.23.2017 check cashed

06.27.2017 NOA-1 received dated 06.22.2017

07.14.2017 Biometrics letter received. Notice dated 06.30.2017

07.19.2017 Biometrics appointment 

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The main point is to show an honest and real relationship. With that in mind, you have to use your own judgement about what is appropriate. My wife and I each wrote a one pager at the K1 stage and we had no issues. Others have just gone with one or two lines on the form with no issues as well.

Your choice.

Good Luck!


Visa Received : 2014-04-04 (K1 - see timeline for details)

US Entry : 2014-09-12

POE: Detroit

Marriage : 2014-09-27

I-765 Approved: 2015-01-09

I-485 Interview: 2015-03-11

I-485 Approved: 2015-03-13

Green Card Received: 2015-03-24 Yeah!!!

I-751 ROC Submitted: 2016-12-20

I-751 NOA Received:  2016-12-29

I-751 Biometrics Appt.:  2017-01-26

I-751 Interview:  2018-04-10

I-751 Approved:  2018-05-04

N400 Filed:  2018-01-13

N400 Biometrics:  2018-02-22

N400 Interview:  2018-04-10

N400 Approved:  2018-04-10

Oath Ceremony:  2018-06-11 - DONE!!!!!!!

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As long as you both include an individually written and signed statement stating your intent to marry as you can find in the example guides here, there isn't a need to go in depth with regard to engagement in question 34. I felt comfortable mentioning it on the question but only in reference to the date we became engaged. Do as you feel is prudent.


K-1 - AOS & ROC Timeline  - Immigration and the Health Exchange Price of Love in the UK Thinking of Returning to UK?

 

First met: 12/31/04 - Engaged: 9/24/09
Filed I-129F: 10/4/14 - Packet received: 10/7/14
NOA 1 email + ARN assigned: 10/10/14 (hard copy 10/17/14)
Touched on website (fixed?): 12/9/14 - Poked USCIS: 4/1/15
NOA 2 email: 5/4/15 (hard copy 5/11/15)
Sent to NVC: 5/8/15 - NVC received + #'s assigned: 5/15/15 (estimated)
NVC sent: 5/19/15 - London received/ready: 5/26/15
Packet 3: 5/28/15 - Medical: 6/16/15
Poked London 7/1/15 - Packet 4: 7/2/15
Interview: 7/30/15 - Approved!
AP + Issued 8/3/15 - Visa in hand (depot): 8/6/15
POE: 8/27/15

Wedding: 9/30/15

Filed I-485, I-131, I-765: 11/7/15

Packet received: 11/9/15

NOA 1 txt/email: 11/15/15 - NOA 1 hardcopy: 11/19/15

Bio: 12/9/15

EAD + AP approved: 1/25/16 - EAD received: 2/1/16

RFE for USCIS inability to read vax instructions: 5/21/16 (no e-notification & not sent from local office!)

RFE response sent: 6/7/16 - RFE response received 6/9/16

AOS approved/card in production: 6/13/16  

NOA 2 hardcopy + card sent 6/17/16

Green Card received: 6/18/16

USCIS 120 day reminder notice: 2/22/18

Filed I-751: 5/2/18 - Packet received: 5/4/18

NOA 1:  5/29/18 (12 mo) 8/13/18 (18 mo)  - Bio: 6/27/18

 

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In those lines, I only wrote "We last met in Malaysia in November 2014". Got our NOA2, no problem.

We have known each other for years, lived in the same city for 12+ years when we were growing up, got engaged 2 years ago, traveled to so many different countries together in the past year alone, but I figured it would have been excessive, so I chose to only put our last meeting place, and when.

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