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[OriZ 3,165]

8 minutes ago, Teddy B said:

You and I are not talking about ss disability, we're talking about the retirement part of ss. People who are under retirement age and need or want ss disability payouts are a different ball game. The abuse of the ss system on the disability level is enormous, that part of the system needs a complete overhaul. SS disability has become an extension of unemployment benefits for many who can work but chose not to and there are far too many fraudulent cases of people who aren't truly disabled. The amount of fraud makes it very hard for the people who truly need the disability payments to get them.

Well actually one of my first posts in this thread was about disability, so yeah I was talking about SS in general not only retirement. I understand there is abuse in the system, but for the people who really need it, it's not working. First you almost automatically get denied, then you have to get an attorney, and 2 years later after giving them a chunk of your money you might end up with something, and again the whole credits thing - just dumb. Anyway now I'm really going to do some work lol

Edited March 17, 2017 by OriZ

[smilesammich 10,727]

sorry but, life is chaos. choices are great and we do have them but at the same time, stuff happens. life happens. some people have, through no choice of their own, financial responsibilities to people other than themselves. it seems absurd to me to think that personal financial choices should be lone predictor of a person's quality of life during working years and "retirement". it's totally unrealistic. it all comes down to how uncontrollable factors AND personal choices manipulate a person's 'prime working years'. 

[Teddy B 17,252]

36 minutes ago, Nature Boy Flair said:

Wow you at work early. Wife kick you out ?  Its ST Pat's day no Fed Holiday ?

Up here in the blue state of Mass we get the whole month of March off to celebrate St. Patricks Day.

 

We're all hangin at the spa today, come on in!

 

[Teddy B 17,252]

Here's an eye opener of just how many elderly people depend on ss to live.

 

Quote

Fact Sheet

SOCIAL SECURITY

Ø In 2016, nearly 61 million Americans will receive approximately $918 billion in Social Security benefits.

 

Snapshot of a Month: June 2016 Beneficiary Data

ο Retired workers               40.7 million      $55 billion         $1,348 average monthly benefit dependents        

ο Disabled workers             8.9 million          $10.3 billion       $1,166 average monthly benefit dependents       

                      ο Survivors                        6.1 million          $6.8 billion       

 

 

Ø  Social Security is the major source of income for most of the elderly. ο Nearly nine out of ten individuals age 65 and older receive Social Security benefits. ο Social Security benefits represent about 34% of the income of the elderly.

ο Among elderly Social Security beneficiaries, 48% of married couples and 71% of unmarried persons receive 50% or more of their income from Social Security. ο Among elderly Social Security beneficiaries, 21% of married couples and about 43% of unmarried persons rely on Social Security for 90% or more of their income.

 

Ø  Social Security provides more than just retirement benefits.

ο Retired workers and their dependents account for 71% of total benefits paid. ο Disabled workers and their dependents account for 16% of total benefits paid.

  About 90 percent of workers age 21-64 in covered employment in 2016 and their families have protection in the event of a long-term disability.

  Just over 1 in 4 of today’s 20 year-olds will become disabled before reaching age 67.

  67% of the private sector workforce has no long-term disability insurance.

 ο Survivors of deceased workers account for about 13% of total benefits paid.

  About one in eight of today’s 20-year-olds will die before reaching age 67.

  About 96% of persons aged 20-49 who worked in covered employment in 2016 have survivors insurance protection for their young children and the surviving spouse caring for the children.

 

Ø  An estimated 171 million workers are covered under Social Security.  

ο 51% of the workforce in private industry has no private pension coverage.

ο 31% of workers report that they and/or their spouse have no savings set aside specifically for retirement.

SSA Press Office  440 Altmeyer Bldg  6401 Security Blvd.  Baltimore, MD 21235  410-965-8904  FAX 410-966-9973

 

Ø  In 1940, the life expectancy of a 65-year-old was almost 14 years; today it is about 20 years.

 

Ø  By 2035, the number of Americans 65 and older will increase from approximately 48 million today to over 79 million.

 

Ø  There are currently 2.8 workers for each Social Security beneficiary.  By 2035, there                               will be 2.2 covered workers for each beneficiary.

https://www.ssa.gov/news/press/factsheets/basicfact-alt.pdf

 

[spookyturtle 9,466]

If you can't afford children, you should have your tallywhacker chopped off. 

[smilesammich 10,727]

5 minutes ago, spookyturtle said:

If you can't afford children, you should have your tallywhacker chopped off. 

further, if poor folk secretly have a child and cannot prove their financial superiority the general public can assume this offspring carries insuperior poor genes, passed on by their financially weak parents. nothing can be done but a monthly sweep of all ghettos, wherein any and all children found without proper parental financial worth will be gathered in a common area and exterminated via firing squad for all the poor still tallywhackered folks to see. probably should make a reality show out of it. live? like that new cops show?

and trump saw what he hath made, and it was good

[Teddy B 17,252]

10 minutes ago, spookyturtle said:

If you can't afford children, you should have your tallywhacker chopped off. 

Fish food!

 

[Teddy B 17,252]

2 minutes ago, smilesammich said:

further, if poor folk secretly have a child and cannot prove their financial superiority the general public can assume this offspring carries insuperior poor genes, passed on by their financially weak parents. nothing can be done but a monthly sweep of all ghettos, wherein any and all children found without proper parental financial worth will be gathered in a common area and exterminated via firing squad for all the poor still tallywhackered folks to see. probably should make a reality show out of it. live? like that new cops show?

and trump saw what he hath made, and it was good

If you work two jobs to support your family, feed them and keep a roof over their heads but fail to invest properly for retirement, you might just be expendable.

[smilesammich 10,727]

17 minutes ago, Teddy B said:

If you work two jobs to support your family, feed them and keep a roof over their heads but fail to invest properly for retirement, you might just be expendable.

i believe we have established that working people are expendable until proven otherwise. born rich, you ain't got to prove a damn thing.

 

[smilesammich 10,727]

i forgot to mention, bullets for the firing squad will be paid for out of a poor tax which is to be levied upon the grandparents of the too poor to live babies lest we worker bees forget poverty is generational.

[Teddy B 17,252]

10 minutes ago, smilesammich said:

i forgot to mention, bullets for the firing squad will be paid for out of a poor tax which is to be levied upon the grandparents of the too poor to live babies lest we worker bees forget poverty is generational.

It has been established in this thread that the word "poverty" is now replaced with the phrase "poor choices". This will help alleviate any guilt that may be felt by the firing squads when they execute people who are no longer poor, but have simply made "poor choices".

Edited March 17, 2017 by Teddy B

[spookyturtle 9,466]

36 minutes ago, Teddy B said:

If you work two jobs to support your family, feed them and keep a roof over their heads but fail to invest properly for retirement, you might just be expendable.

Might?

[OriZ 3,165]

This thread has gone downhill fast...

[spookyturtle 9,466]

Just now, OriZ said:

This thread has gone downhill fast...

It's kinda hard to go downhill slow.

[OriZ 3,165]

2 minutes ago, spookyturtle said:

It's kinda hard to go downhill slow.

Especially here in VJ. This place has got some wicked hills I tell ya.

Edited March 17, 2017 by OriZ