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1 minute ago, malajoe said:

NO we Won't..  I just wanna ###### scream..lol

no kidding, i think this AOS application is probably the hardest thing I've ever done in my life.

Just now, Buma said:

So now we will get denied because they changed it after they received our package with the 2021 forms? This is insane

I think if you have submitted the forms already, don't panic just yet. It is still all speculation on our sides that 2021 forms may be rejected. As long as your edition date is still 10/15/19, it should (should!) still be accepted.

Just now, Buma said:

I'm confused! We downloaded those forms and now all of a sudden it's 10/31/2020?? Then why would they have the 10/31/2021 on their website to download?

Apparently the 2021 was there till the end of last week. It changed to the 10/31/2020 after.

1 minute ago, malajoe said:

Yes just change the first page. I doubt it will be rejected. They made a bunch on changes on the 20th so please check everything. I just saw them put up some new instruction for the EAD.

 

Not sure just the first page is sufficient as the bar codes at the bottom are different between the 2020 and 2021 versions. If the codes at the bottom are different from page 1 and the rest of the pages I am not sure whether this cause any issues.

Then again, does anyone know what the bar code is there for?

1 minute ago, susanav25 said:

Im sorry but I got kind of confused. Which is the I-485 form that we should summit? The one that says 10/31/2021 on expiration date? 
 

Thank you 🙂

According to USCIS the edition date should be 10/15/19.

But the latest version on their website expires 10/31/2020. I used that version this morning before I submitted. Have you done up your form?

Just now, malajoe said:

Im glad you caught it . I resent everything on Saturday. We were focused on making the corrections on the i 944. 

I was looking the i-944 over and since I can't tell what's wrong about it (they didn't send it back), I just added more stuff to the credit report part, and updated the assets part. Then added N/As to every possible blank space. What did you add in the end?

 Feels kinda ominous really and I really hope they accept it after the sweat and tears.

4 minutes ago, malajoe said:

Both have the same edition date so why would they accept the 2020 one and reject the 2021. Did this happen to you? I filed a first time with the 2021 my paperwork was returned because my i 944 was incomplete but there was no mention of using the wrong version of the form. I guess I will have to wait and see. I see their goal of fraustration people is really starting to work.

It really is annoying. I was all ready to resubmit this morning when I read the post. We then checked the barcodes on the 2020 and 2021 versions and they are different. So to be safe I re-downloaded the i-485 again and redid all of that.

If someone's application gets rejected based on that its just unacceptable. The USCIS holds so many people's lives and futures in their hands... and to have that feeling of being played around is just... yeah.

On 4/17/2020 at 9:45 PM, weelisa said:

So my AOS package was just returned saying that the petition was not complete as I did not include forms I-944 and I-864. Trouble is, I did include these forms and the huge amount of evidence they require,AND they were in the package they returned to me!  I had also listed everything carefully on my cover letter.

 

Has anyone else had a similar experience? I can't see any issues with the forms and can only conclude that it's an admin error, but I'm a bit worried about just returning the same package. Can't get anyone on the phone because of COVID 19.

Hiya! My rejected petition came back to me yesterday too, stating the same reason as yours. I had submitted everything as well, and they rejected me because i didn't. My i-944 didnt come back, along with the supporting documents, so its been annoying to reprint everything again. Have a suspicion they lost it since they said they sent back everything.

Called USCIS and they simply said to refile, and they dont have any record of my submission or rejection receipt in the system so im just weirded out now. If you want to try calling, the fastest route is their number (800-375-5283) and hit 1 1 2 2 in quick succession.

I am seeing quite a few of similar cases happening on the forum, rejected with the same reason although all forms were submitted.

22 minutes ago, Bjh said:

There have been multiple cases similar to yours reported in the last 1-2 months. USCIS is indeed making a lot of mistakes lately. My guess is the absurd amount of evidence needed for the I-944.

 

This sounds like a great idea. OP, do this when you re-send everything.

The most annoying thing is that I had written a three page cover letter detailing every single item in our petition. And they returned everything except the i944 and the evidence. That was a lot of reprinting lol. 

Reading the posts in this site, im reading strange posts of people getting rejected because they haven't submitted the i944 when they clearly had.

On a hunch I went to the USCIS tracker and input the rejection receipt number and nothing was found. Neither could the USCIS officer find anything about my rejection receipt when I called in. Just feels super strange and I'm just frustrated and worried that we are going to be rejected again. 

Hi Guys,

Urgently require some help on this question in the i-944 form. It is under Part 3, Page 11, Question 25: "Did you withdraw your application(s) before being certified to receive the public benefit(s)?

What should I put for this question if i had neither submitted an application for benefits or withdrew any application?

Thanks!

Dear all, need some help. I'm preparing the forms to refile again tomorrow. Regarding the benefits section under Part 3, Page 11, Question 25, what should I put for it since it does not apply to me? 

Yes would mean i had filed for benefits and I had withdrew application, but NO would mean that I applied for something. What did you guys put? Thanks!

14 minutes ago, Sarge2155 said:

For all those submitting the I-944, I'm  sure you will see the form again so please keep your records. I'm  sure that you'll see it again during the interview phase should you have one. I'm sure they will ask questions based on the form.

Noted the signature at interview section at the back of the i-944, am inferring from that form onwards everyone adjusting will need to have an interview.

@Sarge2155, could you kindly advise if AOS applicants from K1 are certified to receive public benefits in the future? Still hesitating over my previous answer.

2 minutes ago, Sarge2155 said:

Its asking if you ever had a public  benefit and then canceled or terminated it. This is an important question because if it's TRUE and you answer yes you have to supply the date and that's  how the adjudicator makes his decision on your case based on the time frame you had the said public benefit. If you never had any public benefits that are considered under the public charge then answer NO!

1 minute ago, Sarge2155 said:

Good answer, that question is kinda tricky.

This was what I had entered for my first submission:

As someone adjusting from K1, are we certified to receive public benefits in the future?

7 minutes ago, malajoe said:

I got the same rejection letter because A lot my I 944 wasn't completed. They sent back everything tho.  Because of the incomplete I 944 the I 484 was rejected, my i 130 was rejected because the category i'm filing requires the i 485. 

I feel like the i-944 is just designed to trip people up, especially the public benefits part.

In your rejection notice, did they say that it is due to an incomplete i-944 or that it is required?

I'm filling out a fresh copy of the i-944, am deliberating over this question about benefits again. What did you check for this question?:

9 minutes ago, kec523 said:

That is so frustrating.  Sounds like you got the same rejection letter that I got both times, but when my stuff was returned, it was all there and intact each time - just reorganized.  SO strange that that stuff isn't there.  I have found that when I call they do try to help me, but they can't really give any specific information.  I think it's worth trying to call.  

 

Do not worry about the I-94 expiring.  That happened to us too and we freaked out momentarily before people here and from USCIS reassured us that it does not matter.  As long as you got married within the 90 days you are fine, and don't ned to resubmit any differently.  The only difference once the I-94 expires is that you might have more of a hassle if you did ever get stopped and asked about status.  

 

Deep breaths, just regroup and restart.  

I called USCIS, and even got transferred to tier 2 before they told me to just refile everything. They were helpful, but were still awfully vague about why my application was rejected. Guess they can't just outright admit stuff got lost in the process in case of liability issues?

When you got your rejection letter, did you do anything differently when you eventually refiled? Aside from the I-944 and documentation that didnt get returned, as far as I can tell all my forms were checked, N/A'ed, and signed, otherwise they would have provided additional reasons it was rejected, no?

It will feel super weird/worrying to resubmit the exact same thing knowing it got rejected the first time round.

Hi guys, I filed on 4/14/20, and just got a rejection notice in the mail today. The evidence was kinda trashed and they even messed up the cheque. Everything was returned except for the i-944/supporting evidence, plus my AP and EAD forms.

The rejection notice said that "Form I-944 and Form i-864/i-864EZ are required". No other rejection reason was provided, and it is starting to make me think that USCIS had lost my I-944 and documentation. Has anyone had such an issue before? If we call them up, will they even entertain our request to do a search?

Since i didnt get back my AP and EAD forms, should i assume they are lost and resubmit those again?

One more thing. My I-94 expires after the end of today... will that be a problem when i refile?

Thanks in advance for any help and advice.

2 minutes ago, NancyNguyen said:

USCIS makes a lot of mistakes recently. Reprint whole set of your AOS documents, don't assume they have anything left from your 1st submission. 

 

Double check everything, consider making a check-list for them. Good luck.

Thanks. They didnt return my AP and EAD forms but they had returned all 6 passport photographs we sent. Does this mean I should be re-filing for AP and EAD too?

It is near impossible they would have missed my i-944, the evidence we submitted was the thickest part of the package. Reprinting them is ugh.

I am considering reusing evidence that they did return, would that be okay?

Hi guys, urgently need help about my AOS application. Sent it out on the 14th, and i just got a rejection notice today.

On the rejection notice, it said that i-944 and i-864 was required. But I submitted both of the forms with tons of supporting evidence so I am unable to tell what is wrong? Also N/A'ed all the appropriate sections that didnt apply to me.

One thing that bugs me is that they returned the i-485, i-864 and i-864a, but my entire i-944 and supporting documents was not. Is it possible that it got lost inside the system?

Also, I had file for AP and EAD at the same time, but those forms and documents were not returned to me either. When i refile my AOS package, would I have to refile these forms as well?

Any advice on the above would be really appreciated.

4 hours ago, Sarge2155 said:

No you are ok, they took what they wanted and or needed. Just keep the rest just in case.

Great, will keep that in mind. Thanks for the advice!

4 hours ago, Sarge2155 said:

Yes they return a portion of you K1 packet to you the rest they forward digitally to USCIS, if it is not already in your file.. Insofar as the medical information are you talking about the sealed envelope (brown) I think its marked US health services (or similar wording). As long as you have a copy of the DS3025 you are good. Just keep everything in case you will need it at a later date, you can always take it with you to the interview.

Thanks for the reply.

It wasn't marked US health services or anything related... the medical reports (DS-2054, DS-3030, and DS-3025 originals) was in one singular yellow envelope, unmarked in a mishmash of documents all stacked together uncategorised. The pile of documents includes our Skype logs, some bank statements, a copy of our i-129F petition and other misc. stuff like paper clips we had used in the original i-129F submission. So it was not sealed in a separate envelope like they are important documents or anything.

Strangely, the CBP officer also gave me back the torn yellow envelope to hold all the returned documents as well.

I've read that usually the envelope just gets surrendered whole to the CBP and people don't get anything back, so I'm just confused as hell lol.

Just now, Letspaintcookies said:

Yea I would wait now. As long as you don't have a case number it's too risky to send anything. Wait if there will be a RFE and if not ( and I really want to believe that CBP knew what they're doing ) just take everything with you to the interview. 

The CBP guy seemed to know what he was doing and I asked him three times to be sure and he kept saying no. Didn't want to risk irritating him and getting sent home at POE 😅

Thanks so much for your replies, really appreciate it. Have a great rest of the evening.

On 3/12/2020 at 6:52 AM, remotercharm said:

 

 

So do they mean US only tax returns, not the previous country's tax return?

Under the i-944 instructions they did say you can provide your foreign tax returns if you don't have any US ones. This is under page 4 of the instructions:

For me under that question about filing taxes I had checked 'No", then I explained that I was a foreign resident until recently. I then supplemented with my 2017-2019 foreign tax returns. 

25 minutes ago, Letspaintcookies said:

I remember a couple of people reporting something like that and the CBP telling them that they don't need the paper file because everything was submitted online.

If you're not sure what to do then send it in together with your AOS application and a note explaining what happened. 

Thanks very much for the reply. Unfortunately I had submitted my AOS application last week on the 14th so that ship has kinda sailed. Was lurking around VJ being all anxious about not getting the NOAs before I saw the stuff about the medical report originals.

In this case, do you think I should wait and see if I get an RFE before I do anything, like send the originals to USCIS? I am just remembering the advice of several threads which advise against sending follow-up documentations and info too quickly (before getting RFEs) since that might be confusing to officers handling the application. 

2 hours ago, Ayrton said:

The embassy might have sent a digital version of your packet. If they didn't, then I don't get why the officer did that.

Thanks. I am looking into this Consolidated Consular Database (CCD) that electronic files about visas are stored. Also contacted the Singaporean embassy to try and find out whether they sent anything electronically.

I'm just worried that this would cause gaping holes in my A-file. Has anyone else had a similar experience? Or whether I need to contact someone to fix this?

Hi all, been something bugging me since POE, and was wondering if anyone else encountered similar issues.

I came in to the US via San Francisco (SFO) on a K1 visa on January 29th 2020. At POE, the officer opened the yellow packet given to me by the embassy, and returned some documents like evidence of relationship, photographs etc.

They also returned my medical documents back to me. At that time, I thought it was abit odd, but was just relieved that the POE was smooth to question. I asked the officer whether they don't need the medical, and he said no.

Just wondering if anyone knows if these records are copied into the USCIS system or anything. And if there is anything I should do on my end.