AKSinghSingh79

hey jimmy, here's a notion. if this thread pisses you off so much, don't come here either. No one is forcing you to give your opinion.
You talk about gun to the head. Do you have any idea what love is? Did you take a foreign bride for kicks?
I'm not doing a K1 to "immigrate". That's just a technicality. I just want to be with her. I'm doing this for her. not the country. got that? Her. NOT the country. geeze.
We have looked into all other options. I can't get a tourist visa precisely because she's my fiancée. She can't leave the US because she has to finish college. The K1 was the fastest way. If she came here we'd be apart for another year at least. We can't bear that.
But then again, what we do with our lives is none of your frigging business, now is it? It shouldn't be the business of the US Government either. We fell in love and all they see is a threat to their borders. I am pissed at the US immigrations laws, I'm not going to hide it. who wouldn't be? All the hoops they make you jump through.
Yes. I wonder why that is too. Why are you even asking? Are you ironically trying to suggest that people in that region deserve to be denied more that others?
I'll admit I was angrier when I posted this thread so I guess my wording was as angry. But about the proving stuff in court, here's what you fail to understand:
If a petition is started, it has to raise valid points.
When facing a policy change on that level (USCIS, State Department, etc.), merely appealing to common sense may not work. It must have some legal weight. Referring to the other case I gave a link to might be sufficient. here it is again: http://www.prweb.com/releases/K1-Fiance-Visa/US-Embassy-Consulate/prweb4157054.htm It's a class action suit. From what I understand it means there's no one single plaintiff but a large group with a common interest rather. They do mention "contradictory and unlawful practices of the agencies have caused class members to be subjected to arbitrary, capricious, and unlawful visa denials and therefore been deprived of their due process of law".
Kenya is undeniably a dangerous country, especially for US assets. The consulate there has even been attacked by Al Queada before. The consulate there is a harsh one with seemingly arbitrary denials and stressful interviews. There's a vicious circle here. The emotional bond between the interviewee and the petitioner in the US is such that the latter would feel compelled to travel to Nairobi to offer support (that's what people in love tend to do).
Do those conditions put people (including US Citizens) at higher risk of danger? Yes. People are hostage to their emotions in a way. If the Sate Department isn't aware of that, they should damn well be made aware of it.
THe solution: referring to the class action suit, part of the solution would be making the interviews conducted in the Nairobi consulate fair and civilised. The other part would be to decentralise that consulate. Part of the K1 applicants could be redirected to Mauritius if it's closer or to their own countries if consulates there can handle the extra interviews.
It is true that a petitions that would actually work is hard to set in motion. Probably should be a group effort. But it is a worthy idea to make the path to happiness easier for everybody.
Okay, what is wrong with you? This isn't a race. I'm going to ignore any further comment you make because seriously, your way of thinking is disturbing.

Picked her out of an online catalog, cost to me was $99.

We were introduced by a mutual acquaintance at a karaoke bar (Party World in Shanghai, Wooo Hooo!). She took one look and had to have me.

My fiancé and I met on a business trip...We work for the same company...He came to the US and then I went to India for 2 weeks. By the end of my business trip, we were smitten and developed a great friendship...10 months and 3 more trips later, we were engaged and starting our visa process!

I met my husband at an international high school in Nigeria. My parents were missionaries. Took me 20 years but finally convinced him to marry me!

Perhaps his answer is correct, but there's no reason to be so rude about it when the OP is obviously upset about the situation. They made a mistake. Humans tend to do that. It's not fun to go somewhere for advice on what to to do next and be treated as if you're an idiot.

That's because we feel compelled to buy things we don't need with money we don't have to impress people we don't like.

Unfortunately in certain countries it is true.. or at least delayed due to the age difference.. For the phillipines its quite common for a man 20yrs or more older to marry a younger woman and bring her to USA.. in places like Nigeria, pakistan Egypt etc.. we are looked on more closely as it whether is a real relationship or not because being older by more than a couple of years is definitely a red flag for these countries. Im still child bearing age but our age diff is 15 yrs.. we were questioned at length about that... but my husband said isn't it better to love the mother of your children or love the woman you married and have no children than it is to be in a marriage you dont like just to have children. He's right.. we both suffered from past relationships that were hurtful to us.. we plan to try to have our own child but only God can make that decision but neither one of us wants to live without eachother...adoption is always an option..
but.. for these countries its considered a sons duty to have children so thats why the CO looks unfavorably at these relationships... its not often you see an older woman and her younger fiance or spouse get the visa right away.. usually ap is always done in these cases and sometimes it results in a denial even if its a real relationship

I understand this is discrimination but this is something you and your husband should have been prepared for as this is what happens all the time. And many fraud marriages got approved and the US spouse never sees it coming, they always go into it in love. Everyone always says that will never happen to me but honestly it happens more times then we know, and I'm not saying your marriage is fraud, you obviously love him very much to get this upset, but your husbands response to those questions is what put you in this position. Proof is on paper and anyone can smile for a picture and put a happy front forward. It's your husbands answers and reaction to each question that will go above and beyond the paper proof. And now its all just his word against the embassies word. This is nothing against you the US citizen, this is against your husband who is going outside his culture for what they want to prove is love not just the US.

I see you haven't studied the culture there much. Even of the law states otherwise you will find that women in Nigeria are chattel. You do not inherit, you need your husbands permission to travel outside the country. The embassy is used to seeing the local cafe scammers talk some lonely older ( usually white ) women into parting with her money and her heart. They are probably 100% sure you believe the relationship is real. What they doubt is your husbands intentions. Half the people that get marriage based visas from Nigeria don't last more than 2 years after the Nigerian steps foot in the US. The stats for older woman / younger man are half that. What did you present above and beyond the basic requirements to show them your relationship is two way and for real. Personally I don't want anymore undie bombers or silly little boys that use fake boarding passes in the US. Maybe they need to raise the bar even higher.

If a situation is outside the cultural norms of the local society, the CO is within reason to question it.

Vegas Baby!! So I guess what happened in Vegas DIDN'T stay in Vegas

Love it!!! I saw your cute post on fb ... I hope to hear good news from you guy SOON.
In summary, I was on Student Visa, we went to same college, I had to take a silly science class as a requirement ... so I took Astronomy ... The proffessor made this class so difficult that I had to schedule an appointment with the Astronomy tutor for a class... and then I went for another tutoring class... and then for ANOTHER I think I was the only student taking his time... It was the best class ever in my life!!! AND I fell in love with the astronomy tutor under the night sky
Here is the link of our story in spanish: http://www.visajourney.com/forums/user/106804-angiesteven/

I think it's because the media bends over backwards to try to make us feel sorry for the ones who didn't immigrate here legally. I don't doubt it's difficult and expensive to pay a coyote to walk you across the US border, but I think it's far more difficult, time consuming, and expensive to immigrate legally. I don't see the media asking us to feel sorry for them.
I think it's sad because legal immigrants deserve a little sympathy for what they go through in order to immigrate. Illegal immigrants deserve nothing, and it's disgusting for the media to try to make it appear as if they are the victims of a cruel government. I completely understand the motives for someone to walk across the border and live illegally in the US. If I were a peasant in Mexico then I'd probably strongly consider doing the same thing. However, I would know the risk I was taking when I did it, and I wouldn't be crying on television trying to pull on the heart strings of idealistic liberals after I got caught.

Most of these 'undocumented' immigrants (or whatever PC term you wish to use) know full well the difference between right and wrong, lying and telling the truth, the minimal requirements for obtaining an H1B (college degree, generally) and other basic categories. They also know that they cannot meet those qualifications, hence their ethically challenged motivation to lie, cheat or steal their way into this land of opportunity. But we have requirements and limitations on the number of people who may arrive here legitimately...for a reason....for the protection of the health and well being of you and I and our fellow Americans....and people like the OP believe they should be exempt from our rules for reasons they can never fully explain nor certainly justify.
Compassion? Why? Suppose tomorrow, a colleague of yours at work got laid off, only to be replaced by the OP (or one of the 14M just like her) because the boss wants to save $$....would compassion really describe how you would feel about this situation? Or worse...suppose YOU got the pink slip, then found out later your replacement was a visa cheat??? Would compassion be the first thing on your mind, or instead a call to ICE?
I do not believe that compassion should be extended to those who have decided to thumb their collective noses at our laws....because somewhere out there is an unemployed American citizen (or LPR) who has lost the opportunity for the job she currently occupies (her parents are nowhere near wealthy enough to send her money with which to 'hang out' and watch TV....if they had those resources, she would have had a better education and access to opportunities in her own country).
Illegal immigration is illegal immigration....it cannot be sugar coated.
thanks for listening, though we disagree on a couple of points.

If the visa fee were raised to $2000 everywhere in the world then there would be no basis to complain. If the visa fee were raised to $2000 only in Mauritius then I'm sure the OP and his US citizen fiancee would both be complaining, and I would too, just as you would if the fee were raised only in Manila.
And please read again what I wrote - this has nothing to do with policy or law. The OP isn't asking to change either one. In most countries in the world the US has at least one consular post that handles immigrant visas. For whatever reason, they've decided not to handle them at the embassy in Mauritius, and instead require applicants to travel to mainland Africa to apply for a visa. It's not unreasonable for the OP or his US citizen fiancee to ask that this be changed. It doesn't require a change in law or policy, and it won't cost the taxpayers a dime because visa services are funded by visa applicants. You act as if the OP is demanding the right to burn the US flag on your front lawn when all they're asking for is to be treated like everyone else.

I don't think that's fair criticism. The OP was simply asking if it was possible to petition someone so that the US consulate in their country could provide the same services they routinely provide in other countries. I tend to agree that it's asking a lot for someone to travel from an island nation off the coast of Africa to Kenya in order to interview for a visa when most consulates make a very big deal out of visa applicants applying in their own home country. The OP isn't asking for any special treatment or for any US laws to be changed. They're asking for more or less the same treatment that visa applicants get in most of the rest of the world.
How would you feel if the US Embassy in Manila told you that you had to travel to China to interview for your visa?

You have serious issues, dude. Yes your story has changed. And the lady dying has nothing to do with the story. Your story is short: you got fixed to marry a USC, paid her, ####### happened in the US and you got caught. The End.

Agreed, I think all of us understand that no amount of advice anyone can offer here will be a viable solution to this person who is clearly in a huge immigration mess. Hence the advice to seek qualified legal assistance.
To the OP, I'm sorry but I don't buy the whole "I can't afford an immigration attorney". Where there's a will there's a way. If you truly want to be together as much as you say you do then you would do whatever it takes even if it means you or your fiancee getting a second job or selling a few material items. I could definitely afford an attorney on my salary which isn't by any means extraordinary and I've also seen people afford attorneys who earned much less than me.
The advice you receive here is no substitution for an experienced attorney especially in a case as extreme as yours.

Agreed, I think all of us understand that no amount of advice anyone can offer here will be a viable solution to this person who is clearly in a huge immigration mess. Hence the advice to seek qualified legal assistance.
To the OP, I'm sorry but I don't buy the whole "I can't afford an immigration attorney". Where there's a will there's a way. If you truly want to be together as much as you say you do then you would do whatever it takes even if it means you or your fiancee getting a second job or selling a few material items. I could definitely afford an attorney on my salary which isn't by any means extraordinary and I've also seen people afford attorneys who earned much less than me.
The advice you receive here is no substitution for an experienced attorney especially in a case as extreme as yours.

I don't mean to sound harsh, but it sounds like you're blaming USCIS for not accommodating your own fixed schedule. They process far too many petitions to be that accommodating.
I don't know why you got an RFE. Most RFE's are because the petitioner either forgot something, or the evidence they submitted wasn't enough to convince the adjudicator. It's impossible to compile a list of every possible thing they could ask for because it changes dramatically from one case to another. The guides here tell you the essential elements that comprise a complete petition package, but it's purposefully vague on some of the evidence. It would be pointless, for example, to tell everyone they absolutely needed copies of passport pages with entry/exit stamps since many people (those with Canadian fiance's, for example) won't have those. Likewise, a birth certificate isn't proof of citizenship for someone who became a citizen through naturalization.
As "full of fluff" as the pinned RFE thread is, it's still useful. A list of scanned RFE's isn't much good unless you know what the petitioner provided in response, and whether or not it was successful. You'd also need to know specifics about what the petitioner originally submitted, and their particular circumstances. Some people are asked for things that the overwhelming majority wouldn't be asked for because they have a unique situation.
Anyway, it's not the fault of USCIS that your fiance has a firm schedule in his home country that overlaps the immigration process. It's also not their fault that your biological clock is ticking away. You'll find the whole process dramatically less stressful if you just presume that each milestone in the immigration process will happen in it's own time, and be prepared to alter your plans accordingly as you pass each milestone. For example, if he's ready to respond to packet 3 but it's obvious he won't be able to complete AOS before he needs to return for his fall semester then notify the consulate that you'd like them to extend the approval of the petition and give you more time. You can put off the interview this way for up to a year. That way, he won't be interviewing for the visa until he's ready to come to the US and stay here.
Also, he shouldn't return for a four month semester using AP. You could be scheduled for an AOS interview, and he'd have to return to the US for the interview or risk abandoning his adjustment of status with no visa to reenter the US. Many people aren't approved at the interview, and have to wait days, weeks, or even months for a decision. It would be risky to leave the US during this time because the AP will be canceled when a decision is made on the AOS. A K1 shouldn't leave the US with an approved AP unless their schedule is flexible enough that they can drop whatever they're doing and return to the US.

How sure are we that this person is not trying to get us to help him to commit another fraud? He lied to a CO thats why he was denied.
When I have a 2yr old daughter at home and have to be finding evidence of a 4 yr old relationship so that my daughter can have her father in her life every single day I am not gonna help someone who went through the wrong tunnel find his way to the right one. He should have done things legally like everyone else... If his new relationship is real be honest on every single application. Don't lie. That's what got you where you are right now. If you are honest then everything will work out for the best

New Delhi is known for never sending packet 3. How did you send packet 3?
Did you email the forms or send them via courier?
By the way, when you type in all caps it makes it very annoying to read.
Good luck.

Are you really asking this question?
*sniff* *sniff* I smell fraud
We don't marry for green cards here, we marry for love

Thank you VACrimefighter,
Like I said, I understand the protective nature of a prenup. I understand that %50 of marriages end in divorce. I understand there may be other parties involved (children, ex-spouses, etc.) But not matter how many good things come out of a prenup, at it's core it is making plans for what will happen in case of a divorce.
My understanding of love and marriage is exactly what you said. Living up to the vows you say during your wedding. That means living up to my vows and trusting her to live up to hers. I am saying that if neither of us do that, I have entered into this marriage knowing I could lose everything. That is my statement of love for my wife. She now owns everything I am. Is she mistreats that, then I am out of luck because that is how much I love her. I will not let fear of this world (money, security, success) dictate how much I chose to love my wife right now. I do not believe marriage is a decision based on money, security, family or even logic. There are few advantages to being married. It is a decision that should be based on love.
Like I said, this is not every ones view of love and marriage, but that is OK.
Anyway. I believe I have gone quite off topic. I apologize to the OP who is looking for practical advise.