Shoot Em Straight

Please dont get my humor wrong but this post should now be called
Think Really Hard Before Marrying Someone from MENA...Beauty for Ashes did.
Girlfriend, I am very sorry about your situation but I dont quite understand why you are quoting my entry and then not addressing things I wrote.
I addressed my entry to

Tany because she apologized for her opinion (she is going through personal H E ~double hockey sticks for her Mena man) and she is entitled to voicing her opinion
then to the fact that it was good advice from OP if we take it or not...
Mrs Basta!! Just to let her know I am reading with interest in her input

But I am confused with your quoting????
So this is my input....Sorry OP and thank you for the post. I took it to heart and will watch out!!!
And good luck Beauty for Ashes...you can help people on her with you massive experience.

MozMoz11 was attempted with assistance even in Arabic by another VJ member..Maybe he can post his questions to him again???...this is now a little circus and sadly getting worse.
If YOU cant help...then it is hard to imagine any better info!!!

Yeah seems the OP is totally confused or his stories aren't straight. And people wonder how and why they get denied. One would think that a life changing thing like immigration would be taken a bit more seriously.

Ummm Charles,, Ummm yes, Yesterday I was ATTEMPTING to play the game.
It helps the time pass without thinking of Visa issues
and you shut it down
Please can we play again??
I said nothing about MENA men, or how much I adore learning about Islam or that I think an OP is a fake
Whaaaa happened?
Can we play again...pleeeeeeeeeeeease?

this is the kinda of post that the VJ moderator people need to be reviewing or even deleting.. yes, no one wants to judge or offend if its real, but if it smells bad, it is bad.. why would you have people responding/aideing post thats so suspicious as this? instead the moderators are going around deleting and removing other comments... riduclous..
let me guess, maybe when the OP's "cousin" said passed away, they really don't mean died, right... just that the person moved along and she ran into someone else... OP, when did ur cousin meet the new guy? was it at the wake-keeping or the funeral or when she was place flowers by the grave? real relationships are getting stuck at embassies...

Our email was definately aimed at reminding folks with new info to update their timelines and remove those gaps you mentioned. Hopefully we had a lot of good info added in the last few days!

My hubby (Moroccan) and I have an age difference of 21 years and no kids, but we're still together after 10 years. We had our 6 years wedding anniversary last month.
Sorry about Debbie and all the other couples that don't make it

One point not yet made is in regard to the conclusion that the OP (if she left) would have to go back to her home country -- where she says she's afraid to go.
As long as she left the U.S., she could go to any country that would admit her.

It's highly unprofessional. I can tell you beyond a shadow of a doubt that if during an interview I asked a female prospective employee if she has had sex/got pregnant out of wedlock I would be fired. In fact, I wouldn't even want to work for an employer that wouldn't fire an employee for asking that question. Before I am allowed to interview anyone I'm supposed to review some document with a list of questions and question-types that I absolutely must not ask. Most of the questions listed by the OP would fall into those categories. I'm positive I'm not alone.

When hubby and I were in the "getting to know you" phase, he let me know he wanted a child, if I didn't, then we wouldn't work. Thankfully, I've always wanted another child. During that phase, we both put out what we expected for our individual futures, and what we expected in a significant other. I'm just saying from my experience. They are very family oriented there. His mom has been waiting patiently for grand kids, but we have chosen to wait until he is here, and give us some adjustment time before we have a child. Thankfully everyone understands. In the end, it's a personal choice, and I don't feel comfortable saying "all" of them want kids, or big age differences are doomed.

Good thoughts to all in MENA forum ...March does feel hopeful.
My daughter just asked me how to spell epiphany ...what a great word!!!
Just thought I would share
Thank you to all that help on here.

Good thoughts to all in MENA forum ...March does feel hopeful.
My daughter just asked me how to spell epiphany ...what a great word!!!
Just thought I would share
Thank you to all that help on here.

Katheryn your first warning came before I posted, while i was writing...sorry for this
I honestly did not know I could not voice my opinion that I dont believe the OP is real.
There was no malice in my post towards her at all or judgement. If you read what I wrote..I was not judging her, I was questioning the big holes in her story by the time frame she wrote in her own words. Never did I say anything about her personally.
In fact I conveyed my honest feelings that if it is true I hope she gets the help she needs. I remain this way
Also if all the posts must stick to only constructive advice then maybe mine did not fall under this rule.

Katheryn your first warning came before I posted, while i was writing...sorry for this
I honestly did not know I could not voice my opinion that I dont believe the OP is real.
There was no malice in my post towards her at all or judgement. If you read what I wrote..I was not judging her, I was questioning the big holes in her story by the time frame she wrote in her own words. Never did I say anything about her personally.
In fact I conveyed my honest feelings that if it is true I hope she gets the help she needs. I remain this way
Also if all the posts must stick to only constructive advice then maybe mine did not fall under this rule.

Amen! Its kind of like American men who say they just want to "treat a girl like a princess." In my experience, phrases like that almost always indicated they absolutely DID NOT know how to treat women well!
After reading this thread I do want to make another observation. Sadly there are cheaters and scumbags in all cultures. And there are cultural difference even between people from the same country. I think all things in love HAVE to be taken on a case by case basis.
I had dated many men before I met my "now" husband while traveling in Morocco. Within a few hours of interacting and talking to him I could feel that he was one of the best men I had ever met. He was my tour guide there and so I was fortunate to have the chance to build the foundation of our relationship in person. And as I got to know him, I was able to observe more than just how respectful and thoughtful he was towards me. I saw how he interacted with other people, and how thoughtful and genuinely kind and good-natured he was with everyone.
I'm in my 30's now but I loved to travel solo in my 20's and have encountered the amorous attention of men in many cultures. I can say that the attention of my (now)husband was absolutely nothing like any of the "I just wanna get some from an American Girl" kind of attention I got from random men I met in my travels. Combine that with my experience with American men, and I feel that I had become a relatively good judge of character. Trust me I was watching like hawk for any little red flag. Marriage is a one time, eternal commitment for me. As our interaction continued via email, skype and visits to Morocco, my husband was ever thoughtful, honest, loving and consistent in his treatment and interaction with me, his family and his friends.....more so than any man I have ever met. Its hard not to sound cliche but its true. And believe me, if I had a dollar for everytime someone asked me if I had seen "Not without my Daughter," I'd be rich! But my husband is NOT that kind of man, MENA man or not, he is NOT an abusive, womanizing cheater. I married him, because I knew without a doubt I would never find a better man. And now, married, he is just as wonderful, considerate, loving and good as he was the first day I met him. Of course he is a man and of course he is not perfect. But because in his core is good and genuine and honest and sensitive, we figure these little things out, just like all married couples.
I married my "MENA" man because he was, by leaps and bounds, the best man I have ever met. It makes me sad that the OP and others have been hurt by men from this region of the world, and my heart goes out to them. The sad things is, we could start a whole thread of women who have been hurt by American men, or European men, or Australian men. I just want to add my experience to the others that have had a positive experience with their "MENA" man. I will admit that my husband seems to have bypassed many of the cultural cliches, and I don't deny they exist. But they are not inherent in all MENA men. And I know there are many out there who are the kindest and best of men...my husband is living proof.

Is there a reason why you don't return to your home country? I'm not being rude, just wondering what's stopping you. If it's money your embassy may be able to help.

Absolutely!

And what country would that be? Since you have been freely expressing your political opinions over the internet, I am sure you could tell us what country it is that you hail from?

Hi Jackie
To the newer people on here...please share how you are and some experience if any you can give as a woman with a MENA man...
I would appreciate more input from the people who went through the process ahead of me.

Doesn't OP "marry or not" have to leave before the legal Visitor Visa expires???
Then they would file Spousal visa and wait like the rest of us. Right?

Congratulations on your marriage
and Good Luck on this next journey
We went through the same and the meaningful thing I have learned is the waiting has strengthened our relationship instead of falling apart.
God works in his own ways.

Hi
I hope you have a wonderful trip!!!
I too am blessed to be going back again this month!!
PHOTOS everywhere of you two together and with his family.
When you get there...I never showed their custom officers anything but my passport and answered a few simple questions. Never heard of their government interested in our petition.
God bless

Sorry to hear your story...but it sounds like it is over and she saved you some money by telling you now. Dont chase anyone...if you ask her one last time and it is over. Move on, it is not meant to be. Why would you want to work on this for 5 months?

Congratulations on your marriage
and Good Luck on this next journey
We went through the same and the meaningful thing I have learned is the waiting has strengthened our relationship instead of falling apart.
God works in his own ways.

Good thoughts to all in MENA forum ...March does feel hopeful.
My daughter just asked me how to spell epiphany ...what a great word!!!
Just thought I would share
Thank you to all that help on here.