K1 Visa for Ukraine Fiancee

[1HappyGuy 46]

Lots of good information for you to digest here on VJ. Some of the basics are really pretty simple but need repeating from time to time. You must provide evidence of meeting within the past two years of filing your application for fiance(ee) visa on form 129F. This involves travel documents that tie to your narrative about meeting and falling in love. You will need photos of the two of you together along with many different types of evidence of you and her at the place of meeting during the time stated.

You should understand that if she is pregnant, that does not increase your time for approval or assist you in anyway. Also, getting married before applying will change the type of visa and probably slow everything down.

If you choose to use an attorney (a personal choice), then find one that has extensive experience in this area. You are not guaranteed the process will be quicker because of an attorney only that you will pay them in addition to the fees for applying.

The one caution I would suggest is to make sure your intended is actually wanting to come to America to marry you. Unfortunately there are still people that will take advantage of your heart and draw from you everything they can until the very end. I have some personal experience with this and only suggest you open up your eyes to any inconsistencies.

Remember, this process is intended to be for marriage and hopefully for your life, so proceed carefully and completely. You can prepare all the documents necessary with the help of VJ and get much information.

[payxibka 10,048]

I read that statistic somewhere in my google journeys...hehe. Soo much interesting information on this topic. My congrats to all of you that have been approved for the visa, or are waiting for it:) I was unaware of the two year comment made, but is not real concrete im sure. Most of what Ive read seems to be alot of mishaps on completing or incorrectly filling out forms ect...Hence creating a backlog of the visa once again. This could be a tedious process and wating period from what ive mostly read, just due to a typo or some other unfortunate overlooked additions to the various sections on the paperwork. Thx for the input once again....Please keep it coming:)

Thx

Incomplete or missing information does not mean an automatic denial... In the petition process, this type of situation will result in the petitioner receiveing a Request for Evidence (RFE) in order to cure the situation. At the consulate stage, the visa applicant will most likely receive a Form 221g with opportunity to cure.... If the situation is cured/curable then the process will continue.

It depends on what is missing. Missing proof of meeting and missing or incorrect fees are the big ones.

What part of "IF the situation is cured/curable then the process will continue" did you not understand?

None of it. But I also understood this....

"Incomplete or missing information does not mean an automatic denial... In the petition process, this type of situation will result in the petitioner receiveing a Request for Evidence (RFE) in order to cure the situation."

No worries.

From what I have read.... Missing or inadequate proof of meeting evidence results in an RFE needing to be attended too. Missing or incorrect fee results in a return of the entire submission being returned, while not the "normal" RFE but the entire packet being returned is a pretty big indicator of something needing to be attended too.

Edited September 17, 2007 by fwaguy

[VegasHeat 0]

I was thinking of giving her copies in case it was a while before my next trip. I thought if she had these on hand it would be easier. I was thinking of filing after I made the first trip, so I could have copies of my trails when I returned. I was assuming that I had to make a couple of trips to make this process go a little more smoothly before filing, and her doing the part that she needs to also on her end.

Thx

I am not from Ukraine but my wife is....

I take it from your first post that no petition is currently filed with the USCIS. Will you file the petition before your next trip in 4 weeks time? If not, then why are you going with copies of phone records and messenger conversations? Taking pics and saving receipts (itinerary, boarding passes, etc..) is a very good idea. The ongoing relationship memorabilia is most important between the petition filing and the interview.....

Obviously you are from the Ukraine, and are going thru the same process. I appreciate all the input fwaguy. I will be making a trip there in about 4 weeks, with my copies of phone records, and messenger copies....although im still a little skeptical on those, but will have copies of the ongoing coversations as well for good measures:) I will also be taking lots of pics and saving reciepts...ect....I was wondering about the messneger conversations also, if this is a big factor or not, but I would imagine any information of an on going relationship, and/or coversations couldnt hurt:)

Thx

[payxibka 10,048]

OK, so you and this lady have never met, correct? If that is the case then the most important evidence time frame is from that meeting forward....

Several trips to visit are not required but certainly do not hurt your situation....

If you think this is a possibility (becoming your fiancee) then understand that most documents in the initial petition submission can be copies of originals except three. The I-129f petition itself (which you prepare), G-325a biographical data form (four page/part form) & the statement of intent to marry (one each from both of you). They need to be original due ot the signature reqirement. So, take several copies of the g-325a's with you for her to sign.... Also have her prepare and sign a letter if intent to marry for you to carry it back. All other documents can be scanned & e-mailed to you.

I was thinking of giving her copies in case it was a while before my next trip. I thought if she had these on hand it would be easier. I was thinking of filing after I made the first trip, so I could have copies of my trails when I returned. I was assuming that I had to make a couple of trips to make this process go a little more smoothly before filing, and her doing the part that she needs to also on her end.

Thx

[pushbrk 14,514]

I read that statistic somewhere in my google journeys...hehe. Soo much interesting information on this topic. My congrats to all of you that have been approved for the visa, or are waiting for it:) I was unaware of the two year comment made, but is not real concrete im sure. Most of what Ive read seems to be alot of mishaps on completing or incorrectly filling out forms ect...Hence creating a backlog of the visa once again. This could be a tedious process and wating period from what ive mostly read, just due to a typo or some other unfortunate overlooked additions to the various sections on the paperwork. Thx for the input once again....Please keep it coming:)

Thx

Incomplete or missing information does not mean an automatic denial... In the petition process, this type of situation will result in the petitioner receiveing a Request for Evidence (RFE) in order to cure the situation. At the consulate stage, the visa applicant will most likely receive a Form 221g with opportunity to cure.... If the situation is cured/curable then the process will continue.

It depends on what is missing. Missing proof of meeting and missing or incorrect fees are the big ones.

What part of "IF the situation is cured/curable then the process will continue" did you not understand?

None of it. But I also understood this....

"Incomplete or missing information does not mean an automatic denial... In the petition process, this type of situation will result in the petitioner receiveing a Request for Evidence (RFE) in order to cure the situation."

No worries.

From what I have read.... Missing or inadequate proof of meeting evidence results in an RFE needing to be attended too. Missing or incorrect fee results in a return of the entire submission being returned, while not the "normal" RFE but the entire packet being returned is a pretty big indicator of something needing to be attended too.

Yes, but you can only provide evidence that is available. If you don't have the evidence, you will be denied whether an RFE came in the interim or not. The most common reasons for denial is that are still lack of evidence of meeting and missing or incorrect fee. For statistical purposes, these are denials, even though the couple may later succeed. A third common reason for outright petition denial is divorces not being final. Again, RFE or not, if a divorce wasn't final on the petition date, the result is denial. Amazingly, I've seen this several times. At least twice when the petitioner was from MA.

[VegasHeat 0]

This would be correct....Have not met yet...I will get these G-325a like you stated and bring them..I would like to go as often as I can, but like most people.....Money and time off work is an issue..But I will at least make to trips within 6 months I believe

Thx again for all you information, as you seem to be very knowledgable in this same situation, and having a wife now from the same country:) anything else you can think of please contact me. I believe email can be sent to me also, which is listed as and option to be reached:)

OK, so you and this lady have never met, correct? If that is the case then the most important evidence time frame is from that meeting forward....

Several trips to visit are not required but certainly do not hurt your situation....

If you think this is a possibility (becoming your fiancee) then understand that most documents in the initial petition submission can be copies of originals except three. The I-129f petition itself (which you prepare), G-325a biographical data form (four page/part form) & the statement of intent to marry (one each from both of you). They need to be original due ot the signature reqirement. So, take several copies of the g-325a's with you for her to sign.... Also have her prepare and sign a letter if intent to marry for you to carry it back. All other documents can be scanned & e-mailed to you.

I was thinking of giving her copies in case it was a while before my next trip. I thought if she had these on hand it would be easier. I was thinking of filing after I made the first trip, so I could have copies of my trails when I returned. I was assuming that I had to make a couple of trips to make this process go a little more smoothly before filing, and her doing the part that she needs to also on her end.

Thx

[payxibka 10,048]

Yes, but you can only provide evidence that is available. If you don't have the evidence, you will be denied whether an RFE came in the interim or not.

What part of cured or curable did you not understand?

The most common reasons for denial is that are still lack of evidence of meeting and missing or incorrect fee. For statistical purposes, these are denials, even though the couple may later succeed.

These are NOT denials until the petitioner does not respond to the RFE and cure the deficiency... If you do not cure then you will receive (or are suppose to receive) a NOID notice

Missing or incorrect fees is not a denial because the petition is never accepted in the first place... How can they deny something that never was?

[VegasHeat 0]

Yes....My divorce is finalized:) all paperwork can be presented when needed.

Thx push

I read that statistic somewhere in my google journeys...hehe. Soo much interesting information on this topic. My congrats to all of you that have been approved for the visa, or are waiting for it:) I was unaware of the two year comment made, but is not real concrete im sure. Most of what Ive read seems to be alot of mishaps on completing or incorrectly filling out forms ect...Hence creating a backlog of the visa once again. This could be a tedious process and wating period from what ive mostly read, just due to a typo or some other unfortunate overlooked additions to the various sections on the paperwork. Thx for the input once again....Please keep it coming:)

Thx

Incomplete or missing information does not mean an automatic denial... In the petition process, this type of situation will result in the petitioner receiveing a Request for Evidence (RFE) in order to cure the situation. At the consulate stage, the visa applicant will most likely receive a Form 221g with opportunity to cure.... If the situation is cured/curable then the process will continue.

It depends on what is missing. Missing proof of meeting and missing or incorrect fees are the big ones.

What part of "IF the situation is cured/curable then the process will continue" did you not understand?

None of it. But I also understood this....

"Incomplete or missing information does not mean an automatic denial... In the petition process, this type of situation will result in the petitioner receiveing a Request for Evidence (RFE) in order to cure the situation."

No worries.

From what I have read.... Missing or inadequate proof of meeting evidence results in an RFE needing to be attended too. Missing or incorrect fee results in a return of the entire submission being returned, while not the "normal" RFE but the entire packet being returned is a pretty big indicator of something needing to be attended too.

Yes, but you can only provide evidence that is available. If you don't have the evidence, you will be denied whether an RFE came in the interim or not. The most common reasons for denial is that are still lack of evidence of meeting and missing or incorrect fee. For statistical purposes, these are denials, even though the couple may later succeed. A third common reason for outright petition denial is divorces not being final. Again, RFE or not, if a divorce wasn't final on the petition date, the result is denial. Amazingly, I've seen this several times. At least twice when the petitioner was from MA.

I also wanted to add, the Biological paperwork states work ethics ect...If she hasnt worked, then what would they want there? I mean there are areas to fill in ect...But she would just put in she doestn work?

Thx

OK, so you and this lady have never met, correct? If that is the case then the most important evidence time frame is from that meeting forward....

Several trips to visit are not required but certainly do not hurt your situation....

If you think this is a possibility (becoming your fiancee) then understand that most documents in the initial petition submission can be copies of originals except three. The I-129f petition itself (which you prepare), G-325a biographical data form (four page/part form) & the statement of intent to marry (one each from both of you). They need to be original due ot the signature reqirement. So, take several copies of the g-325a's with you for her to sign.... Also have her prepare and sign a letter if intent to marry for you to carry it back. All other documents can be scanned & e-mailed to you.

I was thinking of giving her copies in case it was a while before my next trip. I thought if she had these on hand it would be easier. I was thinking of filing after I made the first trip, so I could have copies of my trails when I returned. I was assuming that I had to make a couple of trips to make this process go a little more smoothly before filing, and her doing the part that she needs to also on her end.

Thx

[pushbrk 14,514]

Yes....My divorce is finalized:) all paperwork can be presented when needed.

Thx push

I also wanted to add, the Biological paperwork states work ethics ect...If she hasnt worked, then what would they want there? I mean there are areas to fill in ect...But she would just put in she doestn work?

Thx

The G325a and visa applications ask for work history for 5 and then 10 years. If she has never worked or not worked during the indicated time periods, you can write "none" but be prepared to answer any interview questions about how she supported herself. Perhaps the answers are simple.

[Bill y Bella 0]

Since you have not met yet, I suggest you might want to be careful not to get so wrapped up in the visa process. Take some time to think about if this is what you really want to do after you meet her in person.

I can tell you from experience that if you have made up your mind that you will propose in advance of the trip, it is very easy to ignore any little warning signs that might pop up. By no means do I mean to imply that there is a problem with your relationship. I am only saying to keep your eyes open and take time to listen to any little voices in your head who might be asking some questions you prefer to ignore.

Best of luck to you.

[VegasHeat 0]

Yes....I was concered that she hasnt worked, they would shoot her down with thinking she just wanted to flee her country....But obviously is not the case...

Thx push

Yes....My divorce is finalized:) all paperwork can be presented when needed.

Thx push

I also wanted to add, the Biological paperwork states work ethics ect...If she hasnt worked, then what would they want there? I mean there are areas to fill in ect...But she would just put in she doestn work?

Thx

The G325a and visa applications ask for work history for 5 and then 10 years. If she has never worked or not worked during the indicated time periods, you can write "none" but be prepared to answer any interview questions about how she supported herself. Perhaps the answers are simple.

[pushbrk 14,514]

Yes....I was concered that she hasnt worked, they would shoot her down with thinking she just wanted to flee her country....But obviously is not the case...

Thx push

Then your mission, should you choose to accept it, is to prepare her to make that fact obvious to the Consular officer at interview. This is not necessarily a simple task. Depending on the reason(s) she hasn't worked, it could be daunting indeed.

[VegasHeat 0]

Thank you HappyGuy:)

Lots of good information for you to digest here on VJ. Some of the basics are really pretty simple but need repeating from time to time. You must provide evidence of meeting within the past two years of filing your application for fiance(ee) visa on form 129F. This involves travel documents that tie to your narrative about meeting and falling in love. You will need photos of the two of you together along with many different types of evidence of you and her at the place of meeting during the time stated.

You should understand that if she is pregnant, that does not increase your time for approval or assist you in anyway. Also, getting married before applying will change the type of visa and probably slow everything down.

If you choose to use an attorney (a personal choice), then find one that has extensive experience in this area. You are not guaranteed the process will be quicker because of an attorney only that you will pay them in addition to the fees for applying.

The one caution I would suggest is to make sure your intended is actually wanting to come to America to marry you. Unfortunately there are still people that will take advantage of your heart and draw from you everything they can until the very end. I have some personal experience with this and only suggest you open up your eyes to any inconsistencies.

Remember, this process is intended to be for marriage and hopefully for your life, so proceed carefully and completely. You can prepare all the documents necessary with the help of VJ and get much information.

[VegasHeat 0]

Thx again 'push'

Yes....I was concered that she hasnt worked, they would shoot her down with thinking she just wanted to flee her country....But obviously is not the case...

Thx push

Then your mission, should you choose to accept it, is to prepare her to make that fact obvious to the Consular officer at interview. This is not necessarily a simple task. Depending on the reason(s) she hasn't worked, it could be daunting indeed.

[payxibka 10,048]

Yes....I was concered that she hasnt worked, they would shoot her down with thinking she just wanted to flee her country....But obviously is not the case...

Thx push

Then your mission, should you choose to accept it, is to prepare her to make that fact obvious to the Consular officer at interview. This is not necessarily a simple task. Depending on the reason(s) she hasn't worked, it could be daunting indeed.

Kyiv is not Guanzhou.... My wife put on her bio data as "unemployed".... She got asked zero questions at her interview. None. Nada. I am not telling you to not to be prepared, but don't spin yourself into a possible uneeded frenzy either ...... Your experience may not be the same as yours but it is a reference point and should be accepted as such...