Latest Minneapolis shooting

[Ban Hammer 14,936]

[speedster 84]

47 minutes ago, Ban Hammer said:

Do you need a breakdown of the video? Or do you need a reminder of the position Alex Pretti was in? Let me help you:

 

  

 

DHS approached him, DHS tackled him, DHS hit him with the canister, and then DHS murdered him. Oh btw, the second picture of Kyle was after the shooting and everyone was yelling that Kyle shot someone, why didn't DHS do that then since you're going down with that excuse? Next on the excuse mill please.

[speedster 84]

1 hour ago, Dashinka said:

Yeah, that is not how investigations work, but feel free to believe the first thing you see on X, Bluesky, or from the MSM, I will do my own research.

 

The Rittenhouse analogy just shows how out-of-touch the extremist left are.  Rittenhouse was not protesting, he was protecting property from the unhinged extremist left who has no problem with infringing on other’s rights.

 

Lastly, again I will ask (not expecting an answer), why is this just happening in Minneapolis?  

 

Oh great so DHS and CBP won't be the investigators, right?

 

Do you think that whoever doesn't align with your thinking is a "extremist left". But for Kyle he was exercising his 2A, he was not hired for help, he went on his own to Kenosha. And he was called a hero for exercising his 2A at a protest.

 

How is the Rittenhouse situation much different than the Alex Pretti situation? I know how, Pretti was on the ground tackled by several DHS officers and disarmed before he was shot. Let me know when your investigating is complete because of the multiple angles of videos, it's very clear. Oh and did you see the snippet of the DHS officer clapping after Pretti was shot? Yeah pretty distasteful huh

 

"Why is this just happening in Minneapolis?" DHS admitted that there is a large presence than any other city. Sowing chaos is what they want, and extorting the government of MN. Where is this surge in Miami?

[Ban Hammer 14,936]

18 minutes ago, speedster said:

Do you need a breakdown of the video? Or do you need a reminder of the position Alex Pretti was in? Let me help you:

 

  

 

DHS approached him, DHS tackled him, DHS hit him with the canister, and then DHS murdered him. Oh btw, the second picture of Kyle was after the shooting and everyone was yelling that Kyle shot someone, why didn't DHS do that then since you're going down with that excuse? Next on the excuse mill please.

so rittenhouse was surrendering to dhs?
as for your pictures, they are selective.  nice try.
 

[speedster 84]

 

Oh look at that, the federal government appears to have taken measures that directly led to the destruction of evidence.

3 minutes ago, Ban Hammer said:

so rittenhouse was surrendering to dhs?
as for your pictures, they are selective.  nice try.
 

Explain how they're selective

[Ban Hammer 14,936]

13 minutes ago, speedster said:

Oh look at that, the federal government appears to have taken measures that directly led to the destruction of evidence.

Explain how they're selective

or they had all the evidence they needed.
1 drawing and two pictures do not tell the whole story.  

[Pooky 3,959]

To everyone arguing the circumstances and responsibility for what is happening in Minneapolis, you’re missing the big picture. And that’s the point.

 

Have you heard about the ICE-related deaths in Louisiana? No? Why not? Because there haven’t been any. Why not? ICE have been there for 30 days and there has been nothing in the news. Why not?

 

The reason is simple. There was no reason for the mainstream media to publicise the Louisiana enforcement actions. Why not?

 

Because no-one in Louisiana needs distracting from $9+ billion in fraud in which the Governor of their state is implicated.

 

The incitement from the Governor, the State AG and the Mayor is a desperate attempt to deflect attention and the media are complicit. And it they are allowed to succeed, this country will be in serious trouble.

 

ETA, if Governor Walz mobilises the National Guard to oppose ICE, the Seditious Six may find their treasonous words coming back to bite them big time. The irony would be delicious. ☠️

 

[speedster 84]

1 minute ago, Ban Hammer said:

or they had all the evidence they needed.
1 drawing and two pictures do not tell the whole story.  

 

"From a law enforcement perspective, this is astonishing. The federal government's actions are a sharp departure from normal best practices and procedure, in which every effort is taken to preserve the scene and the evidence it contains."

 

You're right, it doesn't tell the whole story but it sure shows the only 2 different positions his body was in. The thread is there

 

 

[Ban Hammer 14,936]

3 minutes ago, speedster said:

 

You're right, it doesn't tell the whole story but it sure shows the only 2 different positions his body was in. The thread is there

 

which does not mean the whole story.  i'll wait for more to come out instead of being spun up by left wing social media posts.

[speedster 84]

22 minutes ago, Ban Hammer said:

which does not mean the whole story.  i'll wait for more to come out instead of being spun up by left wing social media posts.

 

Deep dive investigations on videos that are very much publicly available are now left wing? Sure, Jan

 

"The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command."

[S2N 664]

As I said on the other thread, let’s have a full investigation and see where it shakes out.

 

I think it’s incredibly stupid to bring a firearm with you to a protest for any number of reasons. From what I recall though it is legal, and one of the reasons given for the expansive gun rights we have in this country by those who support a broad second amendment is that it protects from government tyranny.  I think that’s a bad argument, but if that’s what we’re going with it seems odd to me that him having a legal firearm that it looks like he never took out is being used by the government as justification for killing him.

 

We’ll see where the investigation goes. As I said on the other one, I would prefer an independent investigation commissioned by Congress because I have zero faith in the federal government to investigate itself after the last year. The MAGA crowd wouldn’t trust a local investigation and there’s supremacy clause issues there as well.

[S2N 664]

Also, if people prefer an analysis of the videos by a right-leaning source here’s the WSJ analysis.

[speedster 84]

49 minutes ago, S2N said:

I think it’s incredibly stupid to bring a firearm with you to a protest for any number of reasons. From what I recall though it is legal, and one of the reasons given for the expansive gun rights we have in this country by those who support a broad second amendment is that it protects from government tyranny.  I think that’s a bad argument, but if that’s what we’re going with it seems odd to me that him having a legal firearm that it looks like he never took out is being used by the government as justification for killing him.

 

We’ll see where the investigation goes. As I said on the other one, I would prefer an independent investigation commissioned by Congress because I have zero faith in the federal government to investigate itself after the last year. The MAGA crowd wouldn’t trust a local investigation and there’s supremacy clause issues there as well.

 

Loads of people can disagree about the 2A and that's fine, but with the current standing of how it's interpreted with courts and the constitution having a firearm on you doesn't mean you deserve the death penalty. Supremacy clauses are beyond gone in this situation, there was no law enforcement situation happening, that agent approached them on his own prerogative without merit. Letting this go without proper investigation is giving a blank cheque saying federal agents can shoot and kill whoever they don't like

 

40 minutes ago, S2N said:

Also, if people prefer an analysis of the videos by a right-leaning source here’s the WSJ analysis.

 

Nonsense that video is AI and the WSJ is antifa, radical extremist left, and domestic terrorist.

[S2N 664]

11 minutes ago, speedster said:

Loads of people can disagree about the 2A and that's fine, but with the current standing of how it's interpreted with courts and the constitution having a firearm on you doesn't mean you deserve the death penalty.

We agree. I think having a gun on you in these circumstances is stupid, but that isn’t reason to shoot someone. I also think it’s odd that many of the people who supported an expansive 2A reading previously are not using this as justification for killing him. The current law is if you have a permit, you can concealed carry. Even if you’re going to be around LEOs.

 

11 minutes ago, speedster said:

Supremacy clauses are beyond gone in this situation, there was no law enforcement situation happening, that agent approached them on his own prerogative without merit. Letting this go without proper investigation is giving a blank cheque saying federal agents can shoot and kill whoever they don't like

The issue with state/local investigations is that DOJ could have any potential charges removed to federal court and then dismiss it. I’m for an independent investigation, but I’m also aware of the reality that if the state or local government does it, DOJ will override any investigation. That’s why I’d prefer Congress to get involved.

Edited 11 hours ago by S2N

[Ban Hammer 14,936]

2 hours ago, speedster said:

 

Deep dive investigations on videos that are very much publicly available are now left wing? Sure, Jan

 

"The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command."

if you wish to believe everything you see on X, feel free.
as for the 1984 comment, that's amusing as 1984 was about communism and fascim...........