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Hello,

 

My wife became a US citizen in 2023 and would like to petition for her mother to get permanent resident status in the fairly near future.  In the meantime, we wanted to apply for her to get a B1-B2 visa to visit us in the US.

 

I've heard that having an active application for green card would prejudice the Embassy to refuse a B1-B2 application.  So we would probably apply for a B1-B2 visa first in case we get it.

 

My question is:  would her having applied and/or succeeded in getting a B1-B2 visa in any way reduce her chances of getting a her green card application approved?  (assuming she returns to her home country and doesn't overstay her visa.)  Could we even submit the petitioning paperwork while she is in the US?

 

Thanks in advance for any replies.

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I-130 filed online:  July 8, 2022
I-485, 765 and 131 filed:  July 12, 2022
NOA1/I-797 received:  July 22, 2022
Biometrics appointment scheduled:  July 23, 2022

Biometrics appointment: August 11, 2022

EAD approved:  August 14, 2022

EAD returned to sender (USCIS):  August 31, 2022

EAD re-sent and delivered:  September 23, 2022

Approval of AOS:  October 11, 2022

Permanent Resident Status card received in the mail:  October 18, 2022

I-131 filed for Re-entry permit:  Nov 23, 2022

NOA1/I-797 for Re-entry permit:  Nov. 27, 2022

Submitted N-400 application for naturalization:  April 19, 2023

Naturalization interview:  July 31, 2023

Oath taking ceremony:  August 1, 2023

Filed: K-1 Visa Country: United Kingdom
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Posted

My guess is that it would be similar logic to gaining an ESTA and then subsequently applying for an immigrant visa. Yes, the immigrant intent can muddy things, but as long as there is appropriate evidence to show that she will return, there is usually not much to worry about. 

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Posted
53 minutes ago, smilingstone said:

My guess is that it would be similar logic to gaining an ESTA and then subsequently applying for an immigrant visa. Yes, the immigrant intent can muddy things, but as long as there is appropriate evidence to show that she will return, there is usually not much to worry about. 

 

Right, so I'm not sure if I communicated this well, but we would apply for the B1/B2 first.  So at the time of applying for that, they would not know she intends to apply for an immigrant visa.

 

But then when she's applying for her immigrant visa, would that in any way be affected by the fact that she had already applied for the B1-B2 visa?

 

Thank you for your reply!

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I-130 filed online:  July 8, 2022
I-485, 765 and 131 filed:  July 12, 2022
NOA1/I-797 received:  July 22, 2022
Biometrics appointment scheduled:  July 23, 2022

Biometrics appointment: August 11, 2022

EAD approved:  August 14, 2022

EAD returned to sender (USCIS):  August 31, 2022

EAD re-sent and delivered:  September 23, 2022

Approval of AOS:  October 11, 2022

Permanent Resident Status card received in the mail:  October 18, 2022

I-131 filed for Re-entry permit:  Nov 23, 2022

NOA1/I-797 for Re-entry permit:  Nov. 27, 2022

Submitted N-400 application for naturalization:  April 19, 2023

Naturalization interview:  July 31, 2023

Oath taking ceremony:  August 1, 2023

Posted
12 minutes ago, SalishSea said:

With immigrant intent, she will need to convince them of her ties to home and plan to return home after vacation.

 

Thanks for your reply!  So, my question is not about getting the B1-B2 visa (which is probably a long shot).

 

My question is, will having applied for a B1-B2 visa (and potentially succeeding), affect her chances of getting the immigrant visa?

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I-130 filed online:  July 8, 2022
I-485, 765 and 131 filed:  July 12, 2022
NOA1/I-797 received:  July 22, 2022
Biometrics appointment scheduled:  July 23, 2022

Biometrics appointment: August 11, 2022

EAD approved:  August 14, 2022

EAD returned to sender (USCIS):  August 31, 2022

EAD re-sent and delivered:  September 23, 2022

Approval of AOS:  October 11, 2022

Permanent Resident Status card received in the mail:  October 18, 2022

I-131 filed for Re-entry permit:  Nov 23, 2022

NOA1/I-797 for Re-entry permit:  Nov. 27, 2022

Submitted N-400 application for naturalization:  April 19, 2023

Naturalization interview:  July 31, 2023

Oath taking ceremony:  August 1, 2023

Posted (edited)
22 minutes ago, lovinglive said:

 

Right, so I'm not sure if I communicated this well, but we would apply for the B1/B2 first.  So at the time of applying for that, they would not know she intends to apply for an immigrant visa.

 

If you plan this, it can be viewed as immigration fraud

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Posted
21 minutes ago, OldUser said:

If you plan this, it can be viewed as immigration fraud

We're not planning to use the B1-B2 visa to get an immigrant status.  She would return to her home country before/at the end of her B1-B2 visa while waiting for the immigrant visa to be processed.

 

But thanks for noting that as I'll have to make clear that they can't overstay.

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I-130 filed online:  July 8, 2022
I-485, 765 and 131 filed:  July 12, 2022
NOA1/I-797 received:  July 22, 2022
Biometrics appointment scheduled:  July 23, 2022

Biometrics appointment: August 11, 2022

EAD approved:  August 14, 2022

EAD returned to sender (USCIS):  August 31, 2022

EAD re-sent and delivered:  September 23, 2022

Approval of AOS:  October 11, 2022

Permanent Resident Status card received in the mail:  October 18, 2022

I-131 filed for Re-entry permit:  Nov 23, 2022

NOA1/I-797 for Re-entry permit:  Nov. 27, 2022

Submitted N-400 application for naturalization:  April 19, 2023

Naturalization interview:  July 31, 2023

Oath taking ceremony:  August 1, 2023

Filed: K-1 Visa Country: United Kingdom
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Posted (edited)
1 hour ago, lovinglive said:

But then when she's applying for her immigrant visa, would that in any way be affected by the fact that she had already applied for the B1-B2 visa?

 

That was my point.

 

Before my K1, I had a valid ESTA and used it to visit my now-husband. Once my 129F had been filed, approved and sent to NVC, it was all in the system and it was a risk (albeit low, for me) to travel at that stage as CBP could see my immigrant intent. However, I went to the POE fully loaded with evidence that I would return (employment, property lease, etc). The application in itself does not affect things, she will not face denial purely because she applied for/gained a tourist visa. It is all about how it is perceived.

 

If your MIL is ever asked at B1-B2 stage if she plans to immigrate to the US, she must be honest.

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Posted
1 hour ago, smilingstone said:

 

That was my point.

 

Before my K1, I had a valid ESTA and used it to visit my now-husband. Once my 129F had been filed, approved and sent to NVC, it was all in the system and it was a risk (albeit low, for me) to travel at that stage as CBP could see my immigrant intent. However, I went to the POE fully loaded with evidence that I would return (employment, property lease, etc). The application in itself does not affect things, she will not face denial purely because she applied for/gained a tourist visa. It is all about how it is perceived.

 

If your MIL is ever asked at B1-B2 stage if she plans to immigrate to the US, she must be honest.

 

Yes, great point,  If she's asked if she intends to immigrate in the interview, she must be honest. 

 

Is it true that immediate family members of USCs (like parents) are pretty much guaranteed to receive an immigrant visa?  In this discussion, no one has indicated that the B1-B2 visa could affect her chances of getting the immigrant visa, which seems to indicate it is pretty safe.

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I-130 filed online:  July 8, 2022
I-485, 765 and 131 filed:  July 12, 2022
NOA1/I-797 received:  July 22, 2022
Biometrics appointment scheduled:  July 23, 2022

Biometrics appointment: August 11, 2022

EAD approved:  August 14, 2022

EAD returned to sender (USCIS):  August 31, 2022

EAD re-sent and delivered:  September 23, 2022

Approval of AOS:  October 11, 2022

Permanent Resident Status card received in the mail:  October 18, 2022

I-131 filed for Re-entry permit:  Nov 23, 2022

NOA1/I-797 for Re-entry permit:  Nov. 27, 2022

Submitted N-400 application for naturalization:  April 19, 2023

Naturalization interview:  July 31, 2023

Oath taking ceremony:  August 1, 2023

Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Taiwan
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Posted
4 minutes ago, lovinglive said:

Is it true that immediate family members of USCs (like parents) are pretty much guaranteed to receive an immigrant visa?

No more so than anyone else...

5 minutes ago, lovinglive said:

no one has indicated that the B1-B2 visa could affect her chances of getting the immigrant visa,

A B2 will not affect an immigrant visa.

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Posted
4 minutes ago, Crazy Cat said:

No more so than anyone else...

A B2 will not affect an immigrant visa.

All right, thanks Crazy Cat!

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I-130 filed online:  July 8, 2022
I-485, 765 and 131 filed:  July 12, 2022
NOA1/I-797 received:  July 22, 2022
Biometrics appointment scheduled:  July 23, 2022

Biometrics appointment: August 11, 2022

EAD approved:  August 14, 2022

EAD returned to sender (USCIS):  August 31, 2022

EAD re-sent and delivered:  September 23, 2022

Approval of AOS:  October 11, 2022

Permanent Resident Status card received in the mail:  October 18, 2022

I-131 filed for Re-entry permit:  Nov 23, 2022

NOA1/I-797 for Re-entry permit:  Nov. 27, 2022

Submitted N-400 application for naturalization:  April 19, 2023

Naturalization interview:  July 31, 2023

Oath taking ceremony:  August 1, 2023

Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Poland
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Posted

I think having your MIL visit on a B2 Visa is an excellent idea. She will have a taste of life in the US.  Honestly, I have seen so many cases where the US citizen child sponsors a in elderly parent without fully considering if the parent truly wants to live here. It is hard for an older person to adjust to a new life. No extended family or friends. 

 

Additionally, you should research cost of healthcare in your state for an elderly LPR. This may also affect your decision. Good luck!

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6/18/13 - EAD went to production

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7/18/13 - got email about interview

7/20/13 - got hard copy interview letter

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09/03/13 - card arrived

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05/27/2016 - N-400 mailed

06/02/2016 - NOA date

06/24/2016 - biometrics appointment

11/28/2016 - interview scheduled for January 9th, 2017

01/09/2017 - interview passed

01/20/2017 - Oath Ceremony

Posted
16 hours ago, discoverusa said:

I think having your MIL visit on a B2 Visa is an excellent idea. She will have a taste of life in the US.  Honestly, I have seen so many cases where the US citizen child sponsors a in elderly parent without fully considering if the parent truly wants to live here. It is hard for an older person to adjust to a new life. No extended family or friends. 

 

Additionally, you should research cost of healthcare in your state for an elderly LPR. This may also affect your decision. Good luck!

Hi Discover USA, those are some good things to consider.  It wouldbe a good chance for her to consider a totally different lifestyle.

 

Hopefully her B1-B2 would be approved but it's very difficult. 

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I-130 filed online:  July 8, 2022
I-485, 765 and 131 filed:  July 12, 2022
NOA1/I-797 received:  July 22, 2022
Biometrics appointment scheduled:  July 23, 2022

Biometrics appointment: August 11, 2022

EAD approved:  August 14, 2022

EAD returned to sender (USCIS):  August 31, 2022

EAD re-sent and delivered:  September 23, 2022

Approval of AOS:  October 11, 2022

Permanent Resident Status card received in the mail:  October 18, 2022

I-131 filed for Re-entry permit:  Nov 23, 2022

NOA1/I-797 for Re-entry permit:  Nov. 27, 2022

Submitted N-400 application for naturalization:  April 19, 2023

Naturalization interview:  July 31, 2023

Oath taking ceremony:  August 1, 2023

 
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