Easy Countries For Fiance & Spouse Visas

[pushbrk 12,154]

A higher volume of applications means they need more staff and/or may get behind. I'm not equating time with difficulty in obtaining a visa. Waiting is diffucult but the OP had a context to their question and the context was scrutiny due to fraud and/or security risk.

Let's say a Consulate gets 10,000 K1 applications in a year and ends up sending back 1,000 because the relationship was entered into only (in their opinion) to derive an immigration benefit for the applicant. That's 10% fraud. Another country has 50,000 applications and sends back 2000 for fraud. The second country has twice as many fraud cases but the percentage is 4% compared to 10% for the first country. Now lets assume country two has five times the staff to take care of five times the applications. Which one is likely to process applications faster? More importantly, which set of Consular officers is going to be more focused on exposing fraud?

Now let's say a third country has the same application and fraud numbers as country two above but only half the staff. The focus on fraud will remain the same but since they have only half the staff, cases take longer from Consulate in to interview in country three than country two.

Anyway, the "difficulties" we are talking about is scrutiny due to fraud percentages and security risks, not waiting time.

OK, so now lets come full circle on this... does the above explain why from when NVC forwards petition to consulate interview date in Dominian Republic it takes maybe 18 mos? or in Guangzhou or Manila it might take 4-6 months?

Not completely but those are key factors. Certain countries have seen IV unit processed visa applications increase far more rapidly than their staff budget. Add fraud concerns and you add time. Add security concerns and you add time. It's impossible to know which factor is most important in the extra time but easy to conclude they all have significant impact.

There are other factors as well and we're/I'm not privy to them all. One is the difficulty of completing the actual name checks varies with the country as well.

Edited July 5, 2007 by pushbrk

[payxibka 10,044]

Not completely but those are key factors. Certain countries have seen IV unit processed visa applications increase far more rapidly than their staff budget. Add fraud concerns and you add time. Add security concerns and you add time. It's impossible to know which factor is most important in the extra time but easy to conclude they all have significant impact.

There are other factors as well and we're/I'm not privy to them all. One is the difficulty of completing the actual name checks varies with the country as well.

OK but based on this one could conclude that there must be virtually zero concern from a security or fraud point of view in issuing posts such as Indonesia because it is reported that it is only 15 days from receipt to interview

[pushbrk 12,154]

Not completely but those are key factors. Certain countries have seen IV unit processed visa applications increase far more rapidly than their staff budget. Add fraud concerns and you add time. Add security concerns and you add time. It's impossible to know which factor is most important in the extra time but easy to conclude they all have significant impact.

There are other factors as well and we're/I'm not privy to them all. One is the difficulty of completing the actual name checks varies with the country as well.

OK but based on this one could conclude that there must be virtually zero concern from a security or fraud point of view in issuing posts such as Indonesia because it is reported that it is only 15 days from receipt to interview

I don't have enough information to conclude that. First, the number of days would vary depending on whether it is a K or CR/IR visa. I also don't know whether NVC's role is different for Indonesia or anything about their staff to applications ratio. Some security risk countries have short receipt to interview times but the visa issue is delayed for further security checks and/or additional administrative processing/review. The subject is scrutiny and the scrutiny continues until the visa is in hand.

Be careful not to conlude too much with too little data.

[Yodrak 7]

-P,

It indicates that the percentage of fraudulent applications remains the same, which may or may not be true.

The point is, there is no relationship between number of applications and number or percentage of fraudulent applications. The numbers are what they are for each country.

Yodrak

-P,

A higher volume of applications might lead to a higher volume of fraudulent applications, but not to a higher percentage of fraudulent applications.

Yodrak

..... The higher volume of visa applications, would lead one to think that the %-age of fraud also increases...or at least the %-age of the possibility for fraud.

-P

Thanks Yodrak. Math was never my forte, sorry! But I do want to follow your statement up w/ a question. If higher volume of applications = higher volume of fraudulent applications, does that indicate anything, or can one deduce anything from that....w/ regards to the OP's question, and the subsequent discussion?

[payxibka 10,044]

Be careful not to conlude too much with too little data.

Well said!!!!

Thus I think you need to follow your own advice, particularly when generalizing for example, which issuing posts or former groups of issuing posts may or not be in a certain classification.

[pushbrk 12,154]

Be careful not to conlude too much with too little data.

Well said!!!!

Thus I think you need to follow your own advice, particularly when generalizing for example, which issuing posts or former groups of issuing posts may or not be in a certain classification.

We're having a discussion here. Do you have something to add?

[payxibka 10,044]

Be careful not to conlude too much with too little data.

Well said!!!!

Thus I think you need to follow your own advice, particularly when generalizing for example, which issuing posts or former groups of issuing posts may or not be in a certain classification.

We're having a discussion here. Do you have something to add?

Sure, I am just asking that you hold yourself to the same requested standard that you want for us... nothing more, nothing less...

Now, back to topic. Everything we have been discussing so far has been regarding "K" visas.. No reason to add another visa type this late in the discussion. In addition. to further the Indonesia scenario... it has been reported (by members) that approved visas are issued within a day or two of the interview. In addition, I have not read many instances of delays or denials (ie.. additional AP/AR).. so by eliminating those raised concerns from the equation, what if anything can you now conclude about the "scrutiny" a visa applicant receives at this post?

[etripke 0]

Sorry to go off the topic a little here. Pushbrk, which countries are considered "easy" countries?

I don't have a list but Canada and the UK (or the major European Union countries) are far easier than China and the Philippines, for instance. In general, it's the high fraud countries that are most difficult. That tends to include the third world and the middle east as well as the countries that were part of the USSR.

Please don't generalize.....

Thank You!

[pushbrk 12,154]

Be careful not to conlude too much with too little data.

Well said!!!!

Thus I think you need to follow your own advice, particularly when generalizing for example, which issuing posts or former groups of issuing posts may or not be in a certain classification.

We're having a discussion here. Do you have something to add?

Sure, I am just asking that you hold yourself to the same requested standard that you want for us... nothing more, nothing less...

Now, back to topic. Everything we have been discussing so far has been regarding "K" visas.. No reason to add another visa type this late in the discussion. In addition. to further the Indonesia scenario... it has been reported (by members) that approved visas are issued within a day or two of the interview. In addition, I have not read many instances of delays or denials (ie.. additional AP/AR).. so by eliminating those raised concerns from the equation, what if anything can you now conclude about the "scrutiny" a visa applicant receives at this post?

I don't have enough information. When I draw conclusions, I do it based on all the information I have. I don't have enough information on the process in Indonesia.

Again, did you have something to add to the discussion. Do you have an opinion? Do you have a scenario to ask about. Or, do you just want to complain about the opinions of others?

[anitacastillo 0]

OK, so now lets come full circle on this... does the above explain why from when NVC forwards petition to consulate interview date in Dominian Republic it takes maybe 18 mos? or in Guangzhou or Manila it might take 4-6 months?

This is a staffing issue, not a fraud/security issue, IMO. The number of AP/ARs might be a better gauge of fraud potential.

[pushbrk 12,154]

OK, so now lets come full circle on this... does the above explain why from when NVC forwards petition to consulate interview date in Dominian Republic it takes maybe 18 mos? or in Guangzhou or Manila it might take 4-6 months?

This is a staffing issue, not a fraud/security issue, IMO. The number of AP/ARs might be a better gauge of fraud potential.

The percentage would be more important than the number, but yes the percentage of AP/AR is another indicator. The problem is, we don't have a reliable sample of that data.

[texas_bunny 0]

I can generalize an answer also. Any country under the VWP would be the easiest, more difficult for the former eastern block countries, high fraud from countries like Russia and former satelites, P.I's Africa sub-sahara (nigeria), many counties of latin America and the Caribbean, and most difficult from Middle East and Arab countries where all kinds of background checks are required.

Remember, these are general statements and based upon my opinion, just like all of my answers.

There are many islands in the Caribbean, so please don't generalize. I am from the Caribbean and I felt I had a rather quick an easy processing thus far.

Just my 2 cents

Edited August 17, 2007 by texas_bunny

[nivesito 0]

This is an interesting discussion . I really don’t have enough information in order to say anything considering this topic but my questions is; is it maybe that the most visa applications and with that also a lot of visa fraud comes from the countries with big population? For example I’m from Croatia where lives 4, 5 million people and I’ve found just few people from Croatia in this forum (they are all already in the States)? That would be my explanation why is there a lot of visa applications from some countries or?

[desert_fox 32]

I can generalize an answer also. Any country under the VWP would be the easiest, more difficult for the former eastern block countries, high fraud from countries like Russia and former satelites, P.I's Africa sub-sahara (nigeria), many counties of latin America and the Caribbean, and most difficult from Middle East and Arab countries where all kinds of background checks are required.

Remember, these are general statements and based upon my opinion, just like all of my answers.

There are many islands in the Caribbean, so please don't generalize. I am from the Caribbean and I felt I had a rather quick an easy processing thus far.

Just my 2 cents

That is why I used the key words..."many"..which does not mean all countries in the Caribbean. Depends on where you are from.