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Due to a terminal illness for my mother, we got my parents expedited this week to the US Embassy in London from NVC (second expedite request). 

Their interview is April 28th, medical April 29th. 

My question is one I'm having a hard time figuring out ... the 14 day regional travel ban. Assuming they are approved and sent passports back in mid-May after their interview, will they be able to travel? It seems unsure to me whether they are considered visa holders before they are admitted the first time by CBP? Can anyone advise their experiences or how we can answer this? They plan on asking at the embassy but we aren't sure whether they will be forthcoming with an answer or not

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I asked this in a June 2020 question but wasn't sure if I should make a new post or not. 

Due to a terminal illness for my mother, we got my parents expedited this week to the US Embassy in London from NVC (second expedite request). 

Their interview is April 28th, medical April 29th. 

My question is one I'm having a hard time figuring out ... the 14 day regional travel ban. Assuming they are approved and sent passports back in mid-May after their interview, will they be able to travel? It seems unsure to me whether they are considered visa holders before they are admitted the first time by CBP? Can anyone advise their experiences or how we can answer this? They plan on asking at the embassy but we aren't sure whether they will be forthcoming with an answer or not

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10 minutes ago, ArkansasExile said:

It seems unsure to me whether they are considered visa holders before they are admitted the first time by CBP?

They are visa holders. CBP stamps their passports as LPRs when they allow their admission on the visa.

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15 minutes ago, ArkansasExile said:

Due to a terminal illness for my mother, we got my parents expedited this week to the US Embassy in London from NVC (second expedite request). 

Their interview is April 28th, medical April 29th. 

My question is one I'm having a hard time figuring out ... the 14 day regional travel ban. Assuming they are approved and sent passports back in mid-May after their interview, will they be able to travel? It seems unsure to me whether they are considered visa holders before they are admitted the first time by CBP? Can anyone advise their experiences or how we can answer this? They plan on asking at the embassy but we aren't sure whether they will be forthcoming with an answer or not

Hi! I'd recommend creating your own topic about this, as you posted it as a reply to mine, and it's old, so a new one will get more visibility.

 

But! I always got a decent response from the embassy by using this https://uk.usembassy.gov/visas/iv-contact_form/ link. 

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Things could change quite a bit, when are they looking at moving?

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11 minutes ago, Boiler said:

Things could change quite a bit, when are they looking at moving?

As soon as they know they are greenlit by the embassy they'd be looking to book flights within a couple of weeks. 

Assuming 5 days (excluding May 3rd Bank Holiday) for the medical to arrive (due to expedite the medical is Thursday 29th and interviews is Wednesday 28th) and then some time for the embassy to process it we'd be maybe expecting to maybe receive documents back mid-late week of the 10th or the 17th of May. They are trying to give proper notice to their employer's and coordinate flights (Jersey has pretty limited flights to get to England to then get to the USA) but possibly late May or early June assuming all goes reasonably smoothly. 

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43 minutes ago, Wuozopo said:

They are visa holders. CBP stamps their passports as LPRs when they allow their admission on the visa.

So the visa page in passport is enough? Is there a way to confirm that ahead of time? Will the embassy give them any assurance there? They are just nervous about getting to the CBP and then not (or one of them not) being admitted. I think like many we are maybe overly scared of the CBP/entry process. 

 

Appreciate your speedy response! 

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43 minutes ago, ayestaci said:

Hi! I'd recommend creating your own topic about this, as you posted it as a reply to mine, and it's old, so a new one will get more visibility.

 

But! I always got a decent response from the embassy by using this https://uk.usembassy.gov/visas/iv-contact_form/ link. 

Appreciate it - I did create my own topic. 

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They should not make any plans until they get their passports back with the immigration visas.  The US Embassy warn people not to quit their jobs or make travel plans until they get their visas and review them for any mistakes.

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Just now, aaron2020 said:

They should not make any plans until they get their passports back with the immigration visas.  The US Embassy warn people not to quit their jobs or make travel plans until they get their visas and review them for any mistakes.

Appreciate that - it's not the question really here though. 

They wouldn't book anything until they got it back - just eyeballing flights. 

Either way they are likely close to retirement given the ALS/MND diagnosis and progression regardless 

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7 minutes ago, ArkansasExile said:

So the visa page in passport is enough? Is there a way to confirm that ahead of time? Will the embassy give them any assurance there? They are just nervous about getting to the CBP and then not (or one of them not) being admitted. I think like many we are maybe overly scared of the CBP/entry process. 

 

Appreciate your speedy response! 

Seems like you might be mixing up being a visa holder vs being a green card holder.

The immigrant visas will be enough for them to fly to the US.  There's no way to confirm this as the airline will have to check their visas before letting them board.  The US Embassy can not give any assurance that the airline will let them board.

CBP will review their immigrant visas upon arrival.  CBP will admit your parents unless your parents have an inadmissibility that the US Embassy missed. 

You are overly scared.  I have never heard of an immigrant visa holder being refused entry when immigrating.  

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5 minutes ago, ArkansasExile said:

Appreciate that - it's not the question really here though. 

They wouldn't book anything until they got it back - just eyeballing flights. 

Either way they are likely close to retirement given the ALS/MND diagnosis and progression regardless 

Hopefully, you have figured out the cost of health insurance for them.  

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1 minute ago, aaron2020 said:

Hopefully, you have figured out the cost of health insurance for them.  

Yup. 

4 minutes ago, aaron2020 said:

Seems like you might be mixing up being a visa holder vs being a green card holder.

The immigrant visas will be enough for them to fly to the US.  There's no way to confirm this as the airline will have to check their visas before letting them board.  The US Embassy can not give any assurance that the airline will let them board.

CBP will review their immigrant visas upon arrival.  CBP will admit your parents unless your parents have an inadmissibility that the US Embassy missed. 

You are overly scared.  I have never heard of an immigrant visa holder being refused entry when immigrating.  

Appreciate that - I just had concern whether it was considered "done" until CPB admitted. That was the root of my concern/confusion

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