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Since you do not meet the physical presence requirement to pass on citizenship to your son, you can not file a CRBA to report the birth of a US citizen.  He's not a US citizen, so you can't file the CRBA.

 

You file an I-130 to start the immigration process.  Follow the Guides on VJ.

 

How old is your son?

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Moved from IR-1/CR-1 Progress Reports to Brining Family Members of US Citizens to America forum.

Our journey:

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September 2007: Met online via social networking site (MySpace); began exchanging messages.
March 26, 2009: We become a couple!
September 10, 2009: Arrived for first meeting in-person!
June 17, 2010: Arrived for second in-person meeting and start of travel together to other areas of China!
June 21, 2010: Engaged!!!
September 1, 2010: Switched course from K1 to CR-1
December 8, 2010: Wedding date set; it will be on February 18, 2011!
February 9, 2011: Depart for China
February 11, 2011: Registered for marriage in Wuhan, officially married!!!
February 18, 2011: Wedding ceremony in Shiyan!!!
April 22, 2011: Mailed I-130 to Chicago
April 28, 2011: Received NOA1 via text/email, file routed to CSC (priority date April 25th)
April 29, 2011: Updated
May 3, 2011: Received NOA1 hardcopy in mail
July 26, 2011: Received NOA2 via text/email!!!
July 30, 2011: Received NOA2 hardcopy in mail
August 8, 2011: NVC received file
September 1, 2011: NVC case number assigned
September 2, 2011: AOS invoice received, OPTIN email for EP sent
September 7, 2011: Paid AOS bill (payment portal showed PAID on September 9, 2011)
September 8, 2011: OPTIN email accepted, GZO number assigned
September 10, 2011: Emailed AOS package
September 12, 2011: IV bill invoiced
September 13, 2011: Paid IV bill (payment portal showed PAID on September 14, 2011)
September 14, 2011: Emailed IV package
October 3, 2011: Emailed checklist response (checklist generated due to typo on Form DS-230)
October 6, 2011: Case complete at NVC
November 10, 2011: Interview - APPROVED!!!
December 7, 2011: POE - Sea-Tac Airport

September 17, 2013: Mailed I-751 to CSC

September 23, 2013: Received NOA1 in mail (receipt date September 19th)

October 16, 2013: Biometrics Appointment

January 28, 2014: Production of new Green Card ordered

February 3, 2014: New Green Card received; done with USCIS until fall of 2023*

December 18, 2023:  Filed I-90 to renew Green Card

December 21, 2023:  Production of new Green Card ordered - will be seeing USCIS again every 10 years for renewal

 

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10 hours ago, aaron2020 said:

Since you do not meet the physical presence requirement to pass on citizenship to your son, you can not file a CRBA to report the birth of a US citizen.  He's not a US citizen, so you can't file the CRBA.

 

You file an I-130 to start the immigration process.  Follow the Guides on VJ.

 

How old is your son?

Thanks. I read online that I must first prove that he is not eligible for transfer of US citizenship by applying for the CRIBA and getting a rejection letter before I can go ahead with applying for an immigrant visa.  My child is 8 months 

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40 minutes ago, Kingmoves said:

Thanks. I read online that I must first prove that he is not eligible for transfer of US citizenship by applying for the CRIBA and getting a rejection letter before I can go ahead with applying for an immigrant visa.  My child is 8 months 

That’s not true. 

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It is usually true.  That you need to prove that your child is not eligible for citizenship through CRBA before they can process an immigrant visa for him.  That's why you still need to apply and get an official rejection letter before to proceed.  I know people (irl,  not just from forums) That went on this process. Right at the interview they were asked to apply for a crba first get denied before they can approve their visa.  

 

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2 hours ago, pinaydiver said:

It is usually true.  That you need to prove that your child is not eligible for citizenship through CRBA before they can process an immigrant visa for him.  That's why you still need to apply and get an official rejection letter before to proceed.  I know people (irl,  not just from forums) That went on this process. Right at the interview they were asked to apply for a crba first get denied before they can approve their visa.  

 

I also know people “IRL” who have applied for i130 for kids without having to go through CRBA first. Is there any Dept of State documentation you can refer to that says the process first needs to apply and pay for something they know they are not eligible for?

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On 4/4/2021 at 4:32 AM, aaron2020 said:

Since you do not meet the physical presence requirement to pass on citizenship to your son, you can not file a CRBA to report the birth of a US citizen.  He's not a US citizen, so you can't file the CRBA.

 

You file an I-130 to start the immigration process.  Follow the Guides on VJ.

Also, it is not clear to me he is domiciled in the U.S.  That might need to be addressed.

Spouse

Nov. 29th, 2020: I-130 submitted online, NOA 1 Nov. 30th, 2020

Feb. 19th, 2021: Case Is Being Actively Reviewed By USCIS

Feb. 19th, 2021: I-130 Approved 😊

Feb. 25th, 2021: Welcome letter from NVC

Mar. 9th, 2021:  Received Hard Copy NOA 2 I-797 in mail

October, 2021: One Year Postponement of Move, Visa Completion On Hold

Feb. 4th, 2022: Submitted DS 260

 

Stepdaughter

Nov. 29th, 2020: I-130 submitted online, NOA 1 Nov. 30th, 2020

Dec. 9th, 2020: Case Is Being Actively Reviewed By USCIS

Feb. 19th, 2021: Case Is Being Actively Reviewed By USCIS

Feb. 19th, 2021: I-130 Approved 😊

Feb. 25th, 2021: Welcome letter from NVC

Mar. 9th, 2021:  Received Hard Copy NOA 2 I-797 in mail

October, 2021: One Year Postponement of Move, Visa Completion On Hold

Feb. 4th, 2022: Submitted DS 260

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8 hours ago, pinaydiver said:

It is usually true.  That you need to prove that your child is not eligible for citizenship through CRBA before they can process an immigrant visa for him.  That's why you still need to apply and get an official rejection letter before to proceed.  I know people (irl,  not just from forums) That went on this process. Right at the interview they were asked to apply for a crba first get denied before they can approve their visa.  

 

Wow. Maybe I need to email the embassy 

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6 hours ago, SusieQQQ said:

I also know people “IRL” who have applied for i130 for kids without having to go through CRBA first. Is there any Dept of State documentation you can refer to that says the process first needs to apply and pay for something they know they are not eligible for?

Yes I would love to see official documentation on this 

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3 minutes ago, Kingmoves said:

Right at the interview they were asked to apply for a crba first get denied before they can approve their visa.

 

6 hours ago, SusieQQQ said:

I also know people “IRL” who have applied for i130 for kids without having to go through CRBA first. Is there any Dept of State documentation you can refer to that says the process first needs to apply and pay for something they know they are not eligible for?

 

4 minutes ago, Kingmoves said:

Wow. Maybe I need to email the embassy 

If I were you I would e-mail the embassy and get something in writing, including the documentation that references the rules.  I have a hard time believing that someone would have to apply for a CRBA to prove that they don't qualify.

Spouse

Nov. 29th, 2020: I-130 submitted online, NOA 1 Nov. 30th, 2020

Feb. 19th, 2021: Case Is Being Actively Reviewed By USCIS

Feb. 19th, 2021: I-130 Approved 😊

Feb. 25th, 2021: Welcome letter from NVC

Mar. 9th, 2021:  Received Hard Copy NOA 2 I-797 in mail

October, 2021: One Year Postponement of Move, Visa Completion On Hold

Feb. 4th, 2022: Submitted DS 260

 

Stepdaughter

Nov. 29th, 2020: I-130 submitted online, NOA 1 Nov. 30th, 2020

Dec. 9th, 2020: Case Is Being Actively Reviewed By USCIS

Feb. 19th, 2021: Case Is Being Actively Reviewed By USCIS

Feb. 19th, 2021: I-130 Approved 😊

Feb. 25th, 2021: Welcome letter from NVC

Mar. 9th, 2021:  Received Hard Copy NOA 2 I-797 in mail

October, 2021: One Year Postponement of Move, Visa Completion On Hold

Feb. 4th, 2022: Submitted DS 260

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On 4/7/2021 at 2:29 PM, seekingthetruth said:

 

 

If I were you I would e-mail the embassy and get something in writing, including the documentation that references the rules.  I have a hard time believing that someone would have to apply for a CRBA to prove that they don't qualify.

This is the response I received from the US embassy 

 

Greetings,
 
Thank you for your email.  Please go to https://ng.usembassy.gov/u-s-citizen-services/birth/ for more information about the required documents.  Please keep in mind we cannot make a citizenship decision until the application is submitted and the evidence is reviewed.  It is the responsibility of the parents to provide the requested evidence to prove the child was a citizen at the time of birth.  If the officer decides the child does not qualify at that time or you do not meet the Consular Report of Birth Abroad requirements, you can initiate or continue with the visa process.  
 
Best Regards,

 

I am not sure what it means 

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2 minutes ago, Kingmoves said:

This is the response I received from the US embassy 

 

Greetings,
 
Thank you for your email.  Please go to https://ng.usembassy.gov/u-s-citizen-services/birth/ for more information about the required documents.  Please keep in mind we cannot make a citizenship decision until the application is submitted and the evidence is reviewed.  It is the responsibility of the parents to provide the requested evidence to prove the child was a citizen at the time of birth.  If the officer decides the child does not qualify at that time or you do not meet the Consular Report of Birth Abroad requirements, you can initiate or continue with the visa process.  
 
Best Regards,

 

I am not sure what it means 

I'm not sure how you worded your questions, but that is a typical vague answer.

 

How many years have you lived in the U.S.?  Where were you born?   I'm just wondering if you are close to 5 years or very far away.  You know, it does not have to be continuous, right?

 

One of the reasons I am moving from Philippines to the U.S. is so my Philippine born USC kids can get that 5 years under their belt and never have to worry about passing their U.S. Citizenship on to their kids.

Spouse

Nov. 29th, 2020: I-130 submitted online, NOA 1 Nov. 30th, 2020

Feb. 19th, 2021: Case Is Being Actively Reviewed By USCIS

Feb. 19th, 2021: I-130 Approved 😊

Feb. 25th, 2021: Welcome letter from NVC

Mar. 9th, 2021:  Received Hard Copy NOA 2 I-797 in mail

October, 2021: One Year Postponement of Move, Visa Completion On Hold

Feb. 4th, 2022: Submitted DS 260

 

Stepdaughter

Nov. 29th, 2020: I-130 submitted online, NOA 1 Nov. 30th, 2020

Dec. 9th, 2020: Case Is Being Actively Reviewed By USCIS

Feb. 19th, 2021: Case Is Being Actively Reviewed By USCIS

Feb. 19th, 2021: I-130 Approved 😊

Feb. 25th, 2021: Welcome letter from NVC

Mar. 9th, 2021:  Received Hard Copy NOA 2 I-797 in mail

October, 2021: One Year Postponement of Move, Visa Completion On Hold

Feb. 4th, 2022: Submitted DS 260

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9 minutes ago, seekingthetruth said:

I'm not sure how you worded your questions, but that is a typical vague answer.

 

How many years have you lived in the U.S.?  Where were you born?   I'm just wondering if you are close to 5 years or very far away.  You know, it does not have to be continuous, right?

 

One of the reasons I am moving from Philippines to the U.S. is so my Philippine born USC kids can get that 5 years under their belt and never have to worry about passing their U.S. Citizenship on to their kids.

I asked since I don’t qualify to pass citizenship to my child so I still have to go through the CRIBA process and a get a rejection letter before I file an immigration petition.

 

I am no where near the 5 year mark. I’m about 1 year. It makes a lot of sense 

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