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I'm planning to submit an application for my sister's sibling immigration. 23 years ago, we got notaries that prove our relationship with our (same) parents and an additional notary to prove our sibling relationship back to 2002. All these notaries was prepared by the city public office which was administered by the government. I'm wondering are these notaries still valid? My sister is a Canadian citizen and we have very few chances to go back to our birthplace. Thank you.

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A notary generally verifies signatures, not relationships.

 

If the birth certificates show a common parent and were timely filed (not many years after birth), they alone are generally sufficient for demonstrating a relationship. If not, hoe stay I would just go the DNA route. Just make sure it is a properly certified lab (AABB I believe).


Timelines:

ROC:

Spoiler

7/27/20: Sent forms to Dallas lockbox, 7/30/20: Received by USCIS, 8/10 NOA1 electronic notification received

AOS:

Spoiler

AOS (I-485 + I-131 + I-765):

9/25/17: sent forms to Chicago, 9/27/17: received by USCIS, 10/4/17: NOA1 electronic notification received, 10/10/17: NOA1 hard copy received. Social Security card being issued in married name (3rd attempt!)

10/14/17: Biometrics appointment notice received, 10/25/17: Biometrics

1/2/18: EAD + AP approved (no website update), 1/5/18: EAD + AP mailed, 1/8/18: EAD + AP approval notice hardcopies received, 1/10/18: EAD + AP received

9/5/18: Interview scheduled notice, 10/17/18: Interview

10/24/18: Green card produced notice, 10/25/18: Formal approval, 10/31/18: Green card received

K-1:

Spoiler

I-129F

12/1/16: sent, 12/14/16: NOA1 hard copy received, 3/10/17: RFE (IMB verification), 3/22/17: RFE response received

3/24/17: Approved! , 3/30/17: NOA2 hard copy received

 

NVC

4/6/2017: Received, 4/12/2017: Sent to Riyadh embassy, 4/16/2017: Case received at Riyadh embassy, 4/21/2017: Request case transfer to Manila, approved 4/24/2017

 

K-1

5/1/2017: Case received by Manila (1 week embassy transfer??? Lucky~)

7/13/2017: Interview: APPROVED!!!

7/19/2017: Visa in hand

8/15/2017: POE

 

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Posted (edited)
2 minutes ago, geowrian said:

A notary generally verifies signatures, not relationships.

 

If the birth certificates show a common parent and were timely filed (not many years after birth), they alone are generally sufficient for demonstrating a relationship. If not, hoe stay I would just go the DNA route. Just make sure it is a properly certified lab (AABB I believe).

AABB labs will only do immigration testing with a request and reference number from uscis/DoS (and the results are sent directly to uscis/DoS/embassy etc). At least as far as current policy stands, you can’t do this pre-emptively. So they would have to submit what they have, and then if it is not found to be satisfactory then the RFE will be used to get a dna test.

Edited by SusieQQQ

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5 minutes ago, SusieQQQ said:

AABB labs will only do immigration testing with a request and reference number from uscis/DoS (and the results are sent directly to uscis/DoS/embassy etc). At least as far as current policy stands, you can’t do this pre-emptively. So they would have to submit what they have, and then if it is not found to be satisfactory then the RFE will be used to get a dna test.

Good to know.


Timelines:

ROC:

Spoiler

7/27/20: Sent forms to Dallas lockbox, 7/30/20: Received by USCIS, 8/10 NOA1 electronic notification received

AOS:

Spoiler

AOS (I-485 + I-131 + I-765):

9/25/17: sent forms to Chicago, 9/27/17: received by USCIS, 10/4/17: NOA1 electronic notification received, 10/10/17: NOA1 hard copy received. Social Security card being issued in married name (3rd attempt!)

10/14/17: Biometrics appointment notice received, 10/25/17: Biometrics

1/2/18: EAD + AP approved (no website update), 1/5/18: EAD + AP mailed, 1/8/18: EAD + AP approval notice hardcopies received, 1/10/18: EAD + AP received

9/5/18: Interview scheduled notice, 10/17/18: Interview

10/24/18: Green card produced notice, 10/25/18: Formal approval, 10/31/18: Green card received

K-1:

Spoiler

I-129F

12/1/16: sent, 12/14/16: NOA1 hard copy received, 3/10/17: RFE (IMB verification), 3/22/17: RFE response received

3/24/17: Approved! , 3/30/17: NOA2 hard copy received

 

NVC

4/6/2017: Received, 4/12/2017: Sent to Riyadh embassy, 4/16/2017: Case received at Riyadh embassy, 4/21/2017: Request case transfer to Manila, approved 4/24/2017

 

K-1

5/1/2017: Case received by Manila (1 week embassy transfer??? Lucky~)

7/13/2017: Interview: APPROVED!!!

7/19/2017: Visa in hand

8/15/2017: POE

 

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Filed: Timeline

Thank you for all your responses. I think I didn't make it clear that I have the notarized Birth Certificate. My question is since it's very old, more than 20 years, will it be treated as a valid document or do we have to get an updated notarization to support my sister's application?

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20 minutes ago, csiq said:

Thank you for all your responses. I think I didn't make it clear that I have the notarized Birth Certificate. My question is since it's very old, more than 20 years, will it be treated as a valid document or do we have to get an updated notarization to support my sister's application?

It depends, for my country, the older documents are handwritten and the US consulate will only accept updated computerized printouts. You probably need to check if any local specifics like this exist for your country.  If the format of the document is acceptable then it should be fine regardless of the age of printout/notarization.

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I would refer to the reciprocity website for validity of a birth certificate: https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/us-visas/Visa-Reciprocity-and-Civil-Documents-by-Country.html


Timelines:

ROC:

Spoiler

7/27/20: Sent forms to Dallas lockbox, 7/30/20: Received by USCIS, 8/10 NOA1 electronic notification received

AOS:

Spoiler

AOS (I-485 + I-131 + I-765):

9/25/17: sent forms to Chicago, 9/27/17: received by USCIS, 10/4/17: NOA1 electronic notification received, 10/10/17: NOA1 hard copy received. Social Security card being issued in married name (3rd attempt!)

10/14/17: Biometrics appointment notice received, 10/25/17: Biometrics

1/2/18: EAD + AP approved (no website update), 1/5/18: EAD + AP mailed, 1/8/18: EAD + AP approval notice hardcopies received, 1/10/18: EAD + AP received

9/5/18: Interview scheduled notice, 10/17/18: Interview

10/24/18: Green card produced notice, 10/25/18: Formal approval, 10/31/18: Green card received

K-1:

Spoiler

I-129F

12/1/16: sent, 12/14/16: NOA1 hard copy received, 3/10/17: RFE (IMB verification), 3/22/17: RFE response received

3/24/17: Approved! , 3/30/17: NOA2 hard copy received

 

NVC

4/6/2017: Received, 4/12/2017: Sent to Riyadh embassy, 4/16/2017: Case received at Riyadh embassy, 4/21/2017: Request case transfer to Manila, approved 4/24/2017

 

K-1

5/1/2017: Case received by Manila (1 week embassy transfer??? Lucky~)

7/13/2017: Interview: APPROVED!!!

7/19/2017: Visa in hand

8/15/2017: POE

 

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