Issues with Birth Certificate - Italy

[anna.us 31]

Hey everyone! I am having a little issue with my comune di residenza.

 

I requested my birth certificate some time ago, making sure to cite Article 3 of Presidential Decree of May 2, 1957 (No. 432) (as stated on travel.state.gov, in the section dedicated to Birth and Death Certificates required by the Italian consulate), however, the clerk gave me my Estratto di nascita, without any reference to the article above.

Therefore, two days ago I requested my birth certificate again. Due to the current situation, I had to schedule an appointment via email, so I made sure to request the certificate with the correct citation, including screenshots from the website and even an example of a birth certificate reporting the article.

 

Once I went to the comune to pick everything up, I realized they gave me my Estratto di nascita without any citation AGAIN.

They told me, “very kindly”, that they just release the Estratto and they do not know anything about the citation I need.

 

I know that people around Italy are able to obtain the correct version fairly easily… I just wonder if someone can help find a way to get it. The email I wrote was thorough and comprehensive, showing exactly what I need, but they were refusing to take any extra step to provide me the correct version. This already happened twice and I am really frustrated.

 

Also, in case my comune won’t release the Certificato with the citation, will Estratto work as well?

[Alesacil8 26]

Ciao Anna!

 

I am sorry they treated you like that! I have had problems in the past with the Anagrafe and the clerks too, it seems like they will do anything in their power NOT to help you out  Anyways, I have always used my "Estratto di nascita" even for previous visas and it has always worked. I made sure to ask one with my parent's names on it and also the "modello internazionale" which shows translation in many languages below. I am not sure weather for the interview they will need one with a specific citation or not, I am not informed on that, and I was going to use my estratto di nascita anyways. Let me know if you find out something new! 

[anna.us 31]

11 minutes ago, Alesacil8 said:

Ciao Anna!

 

I am sorry they treated you like that! I have had problems in the past with the Anagrafe and the clerks too, it seems like they will do anything in their power NOT to help you out  Anyways, I have always used my "Estratto di nascita" even for previous visas and it has always worked. I made sure to ask one with my parent's names on it and also the "modello internazionale" which shows translation in many languages below. I am not sure weather for the interview they will need one with a specific citation or not, I am not informed on that, and I was going to use my estratto di nascita anyways. Let me know if you find out something new! 

Thank you so much for your reply. I am trying to understand if there is something I can do to also help my comune to get it... I do not want to risk bringing the wrong document, when I know the corret one is available!

At the end of the day, the Estratto has all the information required, however, I doubt the comune cannot do anything, because many people were able to get it... 

 

Glad to know that the Estratto was working fine!

 

Edited May 13, 2020 by anna.us
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[anna.us 31]

13 minutes ago, Alesacil8 said:

Let me know if you find out something new! 

I'll keep you posted!

[Alesacil8 26]

56 minutes ago, anna.us said:

many people were able to get it

I will call my comune too and ask about it, at this point. As you said, I do not want to chance having the wrong document at interview. Let's keep in touch!

[Greenbaum 12,258]

According to the P3 letter it makes no mention of the type of BC you are trying to attain. Here is what the Italy P3 requests for BC's.

 

BIRTH CERTIFICATES: The original or certified copy of the birth certificate of each person named in the application, including the person who filed the original petition, is required. Birth records must be presented for all unmarried children under age 21, even if they do not wish to immigrate at this time (if children are deceased, so state giving year of death). The certificate must state the date and place of birth and the names of both parents. The certificate must also indicate that it is an extract from official records. If you or any children were adopted, you must submit a certified copy of the final adoption decree.

 

I believe what you have will be sufficient. Good luck and stay engaged. 

Edited May 13, 2020 by Greenbaum

[anna.us 31]

3 hours ago, Greenbaum said:

According to the P3 letter it makes no mention of the type of BC you are trying to attain. Here is what the Italy P3 requests for BC's.

 

BIRTH CERTIFICATES: The original or certified copy of the birth certificate of each person named in the application, including the person who filed the original petition, is required. Birth records must be presented for all unmarried children under age 21, even if they do not wish to immigrate at this time (if children are deceased, so state giving year of death). The certificate must state the date and place of birth and the names of both parents. The certificate must also indicate that it is an extract from official records. If you or any children were adopted, you must submit a certified copy of the final adoption decree.

 

I believe what you have will be sufficient. Good luck and stay engaged. 

Thank you for information! I'll maybe try again with my comune, but if they are really unable or  not willing to make a small effort, I'll keep this one that I have.

[Ryan H 3,790]

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