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Yeah, I feel ya frustration.

You would just like for your mom to be able to come to the US and see family.

Something which is much more serious and meaningful than wanting to sight-see and shop. Agreed.

And the fact that the refusal rate for Morocco applicants was 28% in 2019 and 40%+ in 2018 says what statistics says - What has happened in the past, overall.

As gross statistics do, it does not speak to the "chances" for any particular person/applicant.

Some people have closer to a 0% chance, and some have a much higher chance, all based on their particulars.

 

Totally understand the attractiveness of being able to have grandparents, siblings, family members, in general, visit.

What we need to do is have better mechanisms for dealing with those who want to come, and those who come and later overstay.

But our methods right now are pretty brute force. Sorry about that.

 

That is why your asking about people from Morocco, in a similar circumstance, makes sense.

The more gross-level averages and stats are not enough. We feel ya.

Can only say that given what we can tell, it seems like your mom's chances are lower than anyone would like, even though she, in particular,  has done nothing wrong.

Why penalize her for the actions of others???!! We hear ya.

 

And the often suggested idea of trying to improve chances by "visiting" other countries, is really only window-dressing in many cases. We all know, in some cases,  it was for appearances and to increase US visa chances.

 

Wish I could say something more helpful tactically.

Like you said, you have or will apply. We will see.

Keep doing your research, and doing what you can.

Best wishes to ya, Tarik.

And do, let us know.

 

 

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Profile pic - Rainbow Tower of the Hilton Hawaiian Village - Waikiki, Honolulu, Hawaii.

Why this for the profile pic?  Often in movies and on TV when they show Hawaii they show this beach/view. So, instead of doing Kauai or some other locale, we decided to do here, so that whenever some show shows Hawaii and this view, we will see where we were married.

 

BENEFICIARY (From Dubai)

2012 - US Tourist Visa, Manila, Philippines

2012 - First Night spent in the US - Waikiki Beach, Honolulu

 

2016 - Wedding on the beach, Honolulu, Hawaii

2016 - Honeymoon at the hotel in this photo, Waikiki, Honolulu, Hawaii

            They were filming a scene of Hawaii Five-O in the suite above ours during our Honeymoon stay! Actors everywhere!

            Spouse hung out here with celebrities from the movie The Fifth Element back when he moved to Hawaii

2016 - US Spousal Visa, via DCF, Manila, Philippines

....................................

PETITIONER (from NYC)

1999 - Got a place right down the street from this hotel - Waikiki, Honolulu, Hawaii

2007 - Visited Philippines on vacation

2008 - Got a condo in Makati, PH

2012 - Considered for a role on the TV show, The Last Resort, shot out of Hawaii

 

....................................

SUMMARY TIMELINE

06/2011 - Met Spouse in Makati, Philippines

01/2012 - B1/B2 Tourist Visa, Manila, Philippines

10/2016 - Married in Hawaii

11/2016 - Filed for Spousal Visa DCF, in Manila, Philippines

12/2016 - POE, CR-1 Status Received

10/2018 - ROC I-751 Received by USCIS

10/2019 - Filed for Citizenship, N-400

03/2020 - Citizenship Ceremony

 

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8 minutes ago, Suze1 said:

Yeah, I feel ya frustration.

You would just like for your mom to be able to come to the US and see family.

Something which is much more serious and meaningful than wanting to sight-see and shop. Agreed.

And the fact that the refusal rate for Morocco applicants was 28% in 2019 and 40%+ in 2018 says what statistics says - What has happened in the past, overall.

As gross statistics do, it does not speak to the "chances" for any particular person/applicant.

Some people have closer to a 0% chance, and some have a much higher chance, all based on their particulars.

 

Totally understand the attractiveness of being able to have grandparents, siblings, family members, in general, visit.

What we need to do is have better mechanisms for dealing with those who want to come, and those who come and later overstay.

But our methods right now are pretty brute force. Sorry about that.

 

That is why your asking about people from Morocco, in a similar circumstance, makes sense.

The more gross-level averages and stats are not enough. We feel ya.

Can only say that given what we can tell, it seems like your mom's chances are lower than anyone would like, even though she, in particular,  has done nothing wrong.

Why penalize her for the actions of others???!! We hear ya.

 

And the often suggested idea of trying to improve chances by "visiting" other countries, is really only window-dressing in many cases. We all know it was for appearances and to increase US visa chances.

 

Wish I could say something more helpful tactically.

Like you said, you have or will apply. We will see.

Keep doing your research, and doing what you can.

Best wishes to ya, Tarik.

And do, let us know.

 

 

Thx for the input.. She has visited Saudi Arabia for a month 2 years ago. But I didn't see any questions about previous visit to other countries in ds160. 

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Visiting other countries isn’t relevant for a case like this unless she also has a kid and easy means to immigrate wherever else she has travelled. That will be the concern of the CO in this instance - general travel and return might be more meaningful for, say, a mid-20s single person with a take-it-or-leave-it job.

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1 minute ago, SusieQQQ said:

Visiting other countries isn’t relevant for a case like this unless she also has a kid and easy means to immigrate wherever else she has travelled. That will be the concern of the CO in this instance - general travel and return might be more meaningful for, say, a mid-20s single person with a take-it-or-leave-it job.

We're just gonna hope for a CO with a bit of mercy lol. Either way it would be worth the try and if we have to reply later at least we will have a better idea. 

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18 hours ago, geowrian said:

Nothing is needed from you to show that you will provide for her expenses. The challenge will be convincing the CO that she intends to return home.

The letter will not be considered.

 

https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/us-visas/tourism-visit/visitor.html

 

I brought a letter with me when I came into the country, it helped me out.

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1 minute ago, ohcoffeeeyes said:

I brought a letter with me when I came into the country, it helped me out.

Good point, too. Because, even when you get a visa, that is not the end of the story, Each visit involves Border Control, and their view of your intentions are critically important.

Profile pic - Rainbow Tower of the Hilton Hawaiian Village - Waikiki, Honolulu, Hawaii.

Why this for the profile pic?  Often in movies and on TV when they show Hawaii they show this beach/view. So, instead of doing Kauai or some other locale, we decided to do here, so that whenever some show shows Hawaii and this view, we will see where we were married.

 

BENEFICIARY (From Dubai)

2012 - US Tourist Visa, Manila, Philippines

2012 - First Night spent in the US - Waikiki Beach, Honolulu

 

2016 - Wedding on the beach, Honolulu, Hawaii

2016 - Honeymoon at the hotel in this photo, Waikiki, Honolulu, Hawaii

            They were filming a scene of Hawaii Five-O in the suite above ours during our Honeymoon stay! Actors everywhere!

            Spouse hung out here with celebrities from the movie The Fifth Element back when he moved to Hawaii

2016 - US Spousal Visa, via DCF, Manila, Philippines

....................................

PETITIONER (from NYC)

1999 - Got a place right down the street from this hotel - Waikiki, Honolulu, Hawaii

2007 - Visited Philippines on vacation

2008 - Got a condo in Makati, PH

2012 - Considered for a role on the TV show, The Last Resort, shot out of Hawaii

 

....................................

SUMMARY TIMELINE

06/2011 - Met Spouse in Makati, Philippines

01/2012 - B1/B2 Tourist Visa, Manila, Philippines

10/2016 - Married in Hawaii

11/2016 - Filed for Spousal Visa DCF, in Manila, Philippines

12/2016 - POE, CR-1 Status Received

10/2018 - ROC I-751 Received by USCIS

10/2019 - Filed for Citizenship, N-400

03/2020 - Citizenship Ceremony

 

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Regarding Travel...

There is a section on the DS-160 that asks about countries visited in the last five years within the Additional Work/Education/Training Section, as shown below (see second question).

Also, your passport is provided as part of the interview process. They can then inspect it to see if it shows any travel.

And, of course, it can be mentioned orally, at the interview.

 

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Profile pic - Rainbow Tower of the Hilton Hawaiian Village - Waikiki, Honolulu, Hawaii.

Why this for the profile pic?  Often in movies and on TV when they show Hawaii they show this beach/view. So, instead of doing Kauai or some other locale, we decided to do here, so that whenever some show shows Hawaii and this view, we will see where we were married.

 

BENEFICIARY (From Dubai)

2012 - US Tourist Visa, Manila, Philippines

2012 - First Night spent in the US - Waikiki Beach, Honolulu

 

2016 - Wedding on the beach, Honolulu, Hawaii

2016 - Honeymoon at the hotel in this photo, Waikiki, Honolulu, Hawaii

            They were filming a scene of Hawaii Five-O in the suite above ours during our Honeymoon stay! Actors everywhere!

            Spouse hung out here with celebrities from the movie The Fifth Element back when he moved to Hawaii

2016 - US Spousal Visa, via DCF, Manila, Philippines

....................................

PETITIONER (from NYC)

1999 - Got a place right down the street from this hotel - Waikiki, Honolulu, Hawaii

2007 - Visited Philippines on vacation

2008 - Got a condo in Makati, PH

2012 - Considered for a role on the TV show, The Last Resort, shot out of Hawaii

 

....................................

SUMMARY TIMELINE

06/2011 - Met Spouse in Makati, Philippines

01/2012 - B1/B2 Tourist Visa, Manila, Philippines

10/2016 - Married in Hawaii

11/2016 - Filed for Spousal Visa DCF, in Manila, Philippines

12/2016 - POE, CR-1 Status Received

10/2018 - ROC I-751 Received by USCIS

10/2019 - Filed for Citizenship, N-400

03/2020 - Citizenship Ceremony

 

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6 minutes ago, Suze1 said:

Regarding Travel...

There is a section on the DS-160 that asks about countries visited in the last five years within the Additional Work/Education/Training Section, as shown below (see second question).

Also, your passport is provided as part of the interview process. They can then inspect it to see if it shows any travel.

And, of course, it can be mentioned orally, at the interview.

 

image.thumb.png.43131336513fb272c0b0871f3bb9492c.png

 

OK now I'm very confused... I don't recall that section... Are u sure that's from a ds160 for a tourist visa? 

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Do you have the form...look at it.

 

https://travel.state.gov/content/dam/visas/PDF-other/DS-160-Example_11012019.pdf

 

It has been 7 years since we filed a DS-160. Does it not exist anymore?

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Profile pic - Rainbow Tower of the Hilton Hawaiian Village - Waikiki, Honolulu, Hawaii.

Why this for the profile pic?  Often in movies and on TV when they show Hawaii they show this beach/view. So, instead of doing Kauai or some other locale, we decided to do here, so that whenever some show shows Hawaii and this view, we will see where we were married.

 

BENEFICIARY (From Dubai)

2012 - US Tourist Visa, Manila, Philippines

2012 - First Night spent in the US - Waikiki Beach, Honolulu

 

2016 - Wedding on the beach, Honolulu, Hawaii

2016 - Honeymoon at the hotel in this photo, Waikiki, Honolulu, Hawaii

            They were filming a scene of Hawaii Five-O in the suite above ours during our Honeymoon stay! Actors everywhere!

            Spouse hung out here with celebrities from the movie The Fifth Element back when he moved to Hawaii

2016 - US Spousal Visa, via DCF, Manila, Philippines

....................................

PETITIONER (from NYC)

1999 - Got a place right down the street from this hotel - Waikiki, Honolulu, Hawaii

2007 - Visited Philippines on vacation

2008 - Got a condo in Makati, PH

2012 - Considered for a role on the TV show, The Last Resort, shot out of Hawaii

 

....................................

SUMMARY TIMELINE

06/2011 - Met Spouse in Makati, Philippines

01/2012 - B1/B2 Tourist Visa, Manila, Philippines

10/2016 - Married in Hawaii

11/2016 - Filed for Spousal Visa DCF, in Manila, Philippines

12/2016 - POE, CR-1 Status Received

10/2018 - ROC I-751 Received by USCIS

10/2019 - Filed for Citizenship, N-400

03/2020 - Citizenship Ceremony

 

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36 minutes ago, Suze1 said:

Do you have the form...look at it.

 

https://travel.state.gov/content/dam/visas/PDF-other/DS-160-Example_11012019.pdf

 

It has been 7 years since we filed a DS-160. Does it not exist anymore?

I'm very confused now lol.. I think that question pops up depending on the type of visa. I can't find it

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10 minutes ago, Tarik said:

I'm very confused now lol.. I think that question pops up depending on the type of visa. I can't find it

Go to the link I sent....and scroll to Page 33/83.

It says DS-160...

 

Maybe because your mom has never worked, or hasn't worked in the past 5 years, or something...maybe that is why you don't get/see it showing up?

Note the line at the top, that says - Displayed for all applicants. Answering 'Yes' to all questions to show all ADDITIONAL fields"????

Is that why you might not see it?

 

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Profile pic - Rainbow Tower of the Hilton Hawaiian Village - Waikiki, Honolulu, Hawaii.

Why this for the profile pic?  Often in movies and on TV when they show Hawaii they show this beach/view. So, instead of doing Kauai or some other locale, we decided to do here, so that whenever some show shows Hawaii and this view, we will see where we were married.

 

BENEFICIARY (From Dubai)

2012 - US Tourist Visa, Manila, Philippines

2012 - First Night spent in the US - Waikiki Beach, Honolulu

 

2016 - Wedding on the beach, Honolulu, Hawaii

2016 - Honeymoon at the hotel in this photo, Waikiki, Honolulu, Hawaii

            They were filming a scene of Hawaii Five-O in the suite above ours during our Honeymoon stay! Actors everywhere!

            Spouse hung out here with celebrities from the movie The Fifth Element back when he moved to Hawaii

2016 - US Spousal Visa, via DCF, Manila, Philippines

....................................

PETITIONER (from NYC)

1999 - Got a place right down the street from this hotel - Waikiki, Honolulu, Hawaii

2007 - Visited Philippines on vacation

2008 - Got a condo in Makati, PH

2012 - Considered for a role on the TV show, The Last Resort, shot out of Hawaii

 

....................................

SUMMARY TIMELINE

06/2011 - Met Spouse in Makati, Philippines

01/2012 - B1/B2 Tourist Visa, Manila, Philippines

10/2016 - Married in Hawaii

11/2016 - Filed for Spousal Visa DCF, in Manila, Philippines

12/2016 - POE, CR-1 Status Received

10/2018 - ROC I-751 Received by USCIS

10/2019 - Filed for Citizenship, N-400

03/2020 - Citizenship Ceremony

 

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19 minutes ago, Tarik said:

I'm very confused now lol.. I think that question pops up depending on the type of visa. I can't find it

As far as I know It’s always going to ask that for a B visa because travel to certain countries is a potential security issue for the US.

edit ...although, I think the last time I filled in a b visa application was still back in paper days so I may be mistaken...

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Just now, SusieQQQ said:

As far as I know It’s always going to ask that for a B visa because travel to certain countries is a potential security issue for the US.

So which is the correct one : the tourism /medical treatment (b2) or the business & tourism (b1) (b2)??? 

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As far as I know, they ask...

And as far as I would like - THEY SHOULD ASK...smile...

 

It DEFINITELY came up on the form when we applied.

And the link looks like it was dated - 11/01/2019...which is pretty recent...so..there is that!

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Profile pic - Rainbow Tower of the Hilton Hawaiian Village - Waikiki, Honolulu, Hawaii.

Why this for the profile pic?  Often in movies and on TV when they show Hawaii they show this beach/view. So, instead of doing Kauai or some other locale, we decided to do here, so that whenever some show shows Hawaii and this view, we will see where we were married.

 

BENEFICIARY (From Dubai)

2012 - US Tourist Visa, Manila, Philippines

2012 - First Night spent in the US - Waikiki Beach, Honolulu

 

2016 - Wedding on the beach, Honolulu, Hawaii

2016 - Honeymoon at the hotel in this photo, Waikiki, Honolulu, Hawaii

            They were filming a scene of Hawaii Five-O in the suite above ours during our Honeymoon stay! Actors everywhere!

            Spouse hung out here with celebrities from the movie The Fifth Element back when he moved to Hawaii

2016 - US Spousal Visa, via DCF, Manila, Philippines

....................................

PETITIONER (from NYC)

1999 - Got a place right down the street from this hotel - Waikiki, Honolulu, Hawaii

2007 - Visited Philippines on vacation

2008 - Got a condo in Makati, PH

2012 - Considered for a role on the TV show, The Last Resort, shot out of Hawaii

 

....................................

SUMMARY TIMELINE

06/2011 - Met Spouse in Makati, Philippines

01/2012 - B1/B2 Tourist Visa, Manila, Philippines

10/2016 - Married in Hawaii

11/2016 - Filed for Spousal Visa DCF, in Manila, Philippines

12/2016 - POE, CR-1 Status Received

10/2018 - ROC I-751 Received by USCIS

10/2019 - Filed for Citizenship, N-400

03/2020 - Citizenship Ceremony

 

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