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Whether one has thought about this issue or not, this article serves as a good analysis of the deep state.

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The Insect Politicians of the Administrative State

Jay Whig - November 23rd, 2019

 

[...] The United States Civil Service, sometimes called the “administrative state” or “deep state,” is supposed to be professional.  It ought to be apolitical, like an ant colony or beehive, serving a queen, the sovereign people, as they express themselves, under law, through their representatives in the elected offices.

 

Whether the designers of the modern progressive civil service intended it to be apolitical is an open question.  Even if it were so designed, [...]

 

Continues here: https://amgreatness.com/2019/11/23/the-insect-politicians-of-the-administrative-state/  

 

06-04-2007 = TSC stamps postal return-receipt for I-129f.

06-11-2007 = NOA1 date (unknown to me).

07-20-2007 = Phoned Immigration Officer; got WAC#; where's NOA1?

09-25-2007 = Touch (first-ever).

09-28-2007 = NOA1, 23 days after their 45-day promise to send it (grrrr).

10-20 & 11-14-2007 = Phoned ImmOffs; "still pending."

12-11-2007 = 180 days; file is "between workstations, may be early Jan."; touches 12/11 & 12/12.

12-18-2007 = Call; file is with Division 9 ofcr. (bckgrnd check); e-prompt to shake it; touch.

12-19-2007 = NOA2 by e-mail & web, dated 12-18-07 (187 days; 201 per VJ); in mail 12/24/07.

01-09-2008 = File from USCIS to NVC, 1-4-08; NVC creates file, 1/15/08; to consulate 1/16/08.

01-23-2008 = Consulate gets file; outdated Packet 4 mailed to fiancee 1/27/08; rec'd 3/3/08.

04-29-2008 = Fiancee's 4-min. consular interview, 8:30 a.m.; much evidence brought but not allowed to be presented (consul: "More proof! Second interview! Bring your fiance!").

05-05-2008 = Infuriating $12 call to non-English-speaking consulate appointment-setter.

05-06-2008 = Better $12 call to English-speaker; "joint" interview date 6/30/08 (my selection).

06-30-2008 = Stokes Interrogations w/Ecuadorian (not USC); "wait 2 weeks; we'll mail her."

07-2008 = Daily calls to DOS: "currently processing"; 8/05 = Phoned consulate, got Section Chief; wrote him.

08-07-08 = E-mail from consulate, promising to issue visa "as soon as we get her passport" (on 8/12, per DHL).

08-27-08 = Phoned consulate (they "couldn't find" our file); visa DHL'd 8/28; in hand 9/1; through POE on 10/9 with NO hassles(!).

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Impeachment because the deep state is flustered.  :bonk:

 

The professional bureaucrats on display in the House Intelligence Committee’s hearing this past week illustrate this, albeit through a glass darkly. If you listen carefully, Marie Yovanovitch, George Kent, William Taylor, Alexander Vindman, Fiona Hill, and David Holmes each have ordered their conduct by looking inward. The habits of the bureaucrat and the technocrat light their way. They talk of their credentials and long service in the bureaucracy, without a hint of a suspicion that such experience might be a cause of myopia.

 

They all—I don’t include Ambassador Gordon Sondland, who is not a career bureaucrat but rather a donor—said quite honestly that a policy based on the consensus of experts should be the end of their actions. Actions that do not accord with that consensus anger them. At one point, Fiona Hill acknowledged this, recollecting a wrathful confrontation she had with Sondland:

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9 hours ago, TBoneTX said:

Whether one has thought about this issue or not, this article serves as a good analysis of the deep state.

Trump see the bureaucrats like I do but not as insects but leeches. They are more of a hindrance than a partner in success and Trump gets excited about the ones that do the spade work, the actual ones that do the work that makes his visions a reality. The politicians are the ones that make the bureaucrats possible by making the laws and rules the bureaucrats need to exist so of course they are beholden to them and are deep staters who will protect their status quo. Of course they would have to hate Trump and of course us ones that do the spade work would love him.

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Depending on Civil Service protections, it wouldn't be a bad idea to fire several (or many) of these clowns in key departments and agencies.

06-04-2007 = TSC stamps postal return-receipt for I-129f.

06-11-2007 = NOA1 date (unknown to me).

07-20-2007 = Phoned Immigration Officer; got WAC#; where's NOA1?

09-25-2007 = Touch (first-ever).

09-28-2007 = NOA1, 23 days after their 45-day promise to send it (grrrr).

10-20 & 11-14-2007 = Phoned ImmOffs; "still pending."

12-11-2007 = 180 days; file is "between workstations, may be early Jan."; touches 12/11 & 12/12.

12-18-2007 = Call; file is with Division 9 ofcr. (bckgrnd check); e-prompt to shake it; touch.

12-19-2007 = NOA2 by e-mail & web, dated 12-18-07 (187 days; 201 per VJ); in mail 12/24/07.

01-09-2008 = File from USCIS to NVC, 1-4-08; NVC creates file, 1/15/08; to consulate 1/16/08.

01-23-2008 = Consulate gets file; outdated Packet 4 mailed to fiancee 1/27/08; rec'd 3/3/08.

04-29-2008 = Fiancee's 4-min. consular interview, 8:30 a.m.; much evidence brought but not allowed to be presented (consul: "More proof! Second interview! Bring your fiance!").

05-05-2008 = Infuriating $12 call to non-English-speaking consulate appointment-setter.

05-06-2008 = Better $12 call to English-speaker; "joint" interview date 6/30/08 (my selection).

06-30-2008 = Stokes Interrogations w/Ecuadorian (not USC); "wait 2 weeks; we'll mail her."

07-2008 = Daily calls to DOS: "currently processing"; 8/05 = Phoned consulate, got Section Chief; wrote him.

08-07-08 = E-mail from consulate, promising to issue visa "as soon as we get her passport" (on 8/12, per DHL).

08-27-08 = Phoned consulate (they "couldn't find" our file); visa DHL'd 8/28; in hand 9/1; through POE on 10/9 with NO hassles(!).

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18 hours ago, luckytxn said:

It wouldn't be a bad idea to just delete whole departments.

Not bad at all, if practicable.

 

Might solve the "entrenched uppity permanent personnel" issue by relocating entire departments/agencies elsewhere in the U.S., such the Dept. of Agriculture to Missouri or elsewhere in the Midwest.  We'd see how many of the snoots would be too snooty to relocate to flyover country.

06-04-2007 = TSC stamps postal return-receipt for I-129f.

06-11-2007 = NOA1 date (unknown to me).

07-20-2007 = Phoned Immigration Officer; got WAC#; where's NOA1?

09-25-2007 = Touch (first-ever).

09-28-2007 = NOA1, 23 days after their 45-day promise to send it (grrrr).

10-20 & 11-14-2007 = Phoned ImmOffs; "still pending."

12-11-2007 = 180 days; file is "between workstations, may be early Jan."; touches 12/11 & 12/12.

12-18-2007 = Call; file is with Division 9 ofcr. (bckgrnd check); e-prompt to shake it; touch.

12-19-2007 = NOA2 by e-mail & web, dated 12-18-07 (187 days; 201 per VJ); in mail 12/24/07.

01-09-2008 = File from USCIS to NVC, 1-4-08; NVC creates file, 1/15/08; to consulate 1/16/08.

01-23-2008 = Consulate gets file; outdated Packet 4 mailed to fiancee 1/27/08; rec'd 3/3/08.

04-29-2008 = Fiancee's 4-min. consular interview, 8:30 a.m.; much evidence brought but not allowed to be presented (consul: "More proof! Second interview! Bring your fiance!").

05-05-2008 = Infuriating $12 call to non-English-speaking consulate appointment-setter.

05-06-2008 = Better $12 call to English-speaker; "joint" interview date 6/30/08 (my selection).

06-30-2008 = Stokes Interrogations w/Ecuadorian (not USC); "wait 2 weeks; we'll mail her."

07-2008 = Daily calls to DOS: "currently processing"; 8/05 = Phoned consulate, got Section Chief; wrote him.

08-07-08 = E-mail from consulate, promising to issue visa "as soon as we get her passport" (on 8/12, per DHL).

08-27-08 = Phoned consulate (they "couldn't find" our file); visa DHL'd 8/28; in hand 9/1; through POE on 10/9 with NO hassles(!).

Posted (edited)

Sign of the times that things that were long called conspiracy theories are being proven true, and how the narrative is changing from denial/ostracizing to cheerleading this deep state. Like I said in another thread, Trump seems to be the societal (and deep state) astringent that's putting the squeeze on these corrupt people. They see their influence waning, so they surface to sow chaos. The corrupt and those with ill intentions have gone from inconspicuous to transparent rather rapidly.

 

It's not to suggest Trump is clean, he's just not in the group of people that like to think they're in charge of things, ranging from picking the President, to running policies, and so on. People that very clearly need to be taken down several notches.

Edited by Burnt Reynolds
 

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