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My husband and I went in for his N-400 interview a couple of weeks ago. I was working 60 hour work weeks and took 14 credits of summer classes during this time so as you can imagine I didn't have much time to prepare our documents. I threw in a few of our most recent housing documents, including one of our most recent (a townhouse purchase including our mortgage papers), passports, marriage cert and that was about it. We started the process from a K-1 visa so I also rationalized it by thinking that after ROC they have pounds of papers proving our marriage. After all is said and done, we get hit with an RFE. But not for anything groundbreaking... They want:

  • State and federal income taxes, including W-2s
  • Leases/mortgages
  • Bills/receipts
  • A letter from employer reflecting marital status, emergency contact, beneficiaries for health/life
  • Bank statements showing joint accounts
  • Birth certs for our children
  • Any other evidence.

This is all evidence they already have! My husband can log on to his USCIS account here we submitted his application and it is all there: taxes from 2015 filed jointly, leases for housing we jointly signed, not an official letter from work listing beneficiaries but we did include all shared insurances, printoffs from the internet for beneficiaries on financial accounts, and shared utilities, also have joint bank account from the end of 2015, no children so no birth certs, and we sent in a bunch of other supporting evidence: us with my parents on a trip, shared cellphone plan that includes us and the rest of my family that lives out of state, shared ownership of car purchases, shared credit cards, shared loans...and on and on. This seems over the top and ridiculous to me. Is this something that happens routinely with N400 apps?


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N-400 based on marriage to a USC should be treated like a mini-ROC. Yes, they have things you sent in ROC but you want to include additional documents since then. Always has been like this. 

Not quite sure why you’re handling your husband’s naturalization- he’s the applicant so he should’ve been doing all the paperwork. 


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3 hours ago, milimelo said:

N-400 based on marriage to a USC should be treated like a mini-ROC. Yes, they have things you sent in ROC but you want to include additional documents since then. Always has been like this. 

Not quite sure why you’re handling your husband’s naturalization- he’s the applicant so he should’ve been doing all the paperwork. 

We included everything since our ROC in our initial application for the N400. And actually the RFE says "Submit proof...for the three years prior to filing your N-400". So they're not asking for anything new. All the documentation sent with the initial N-400 filing were the materials listed above from the period from our ROC to the date of filing the N-400.

 

And Just like any relationship, there's usually one person that takes charge of finances and such. Since that's me and I am the primary account holder for our online accounts, I've been gathering them for him. Don't think there's anything odd about that. 🤷‍♂️


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4 hours ago, Coogah said:

We included everything since our ROC in our initial application for the N400. And actually the RFE says "Submit proof...for the three years prior to filing your N-400". So they're not asking for anything new. All the documentation sent with the initial N-400 filing were the materials listed above from the period from our ROC to the date of filing the N-400.

 

And Just like any relationship, there's usually one person that takes charge of finances and such. Since that's me and I am the primary account holder for our online accounts, I've been gathering them for him. Don't think there's anything odd about that. 🤷‍♂️

So send them again

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9 hours ago, Coogah said:

My husband and I went in for his N-400 interview a couple of weeks ago. I was working 60 hour work weeks and took 14 credits of summer classes during this time so as you can imagine I didn't have much time to prepare our documents. I threw in a few of our most recent housing documents, including one of our most recent (a townhouse purchase including our mortgage papers), passports, marriage cert and that was about it. We started the process from a K-1 visa so I also rationalized it by thinking that after ROC they have pounds of papers proving our marriage. After all is said and done, we get hit with an RFE. But not for anything groundbreaking... They want:

  • State and federal income taxes, including W-2s
  • Leases/mortgages
  • Bills/receipts
  • A letter from employer reflecting marital status, emergency contact, beneficiaries for health/life
  • Bank statements showing joint accounts
  • Birth certs for our children
  • Any other evidence.

This is all evidence they already have! My husband can log on to his USCIS account here we submitted his application and it is all there: taxes from 2015 filed jointly, leases for housing we jointly signed, not an official letter from work listing beneficiaries but we did include all shared insurances, printoffs from the internet for beneficiaries on financial accounts, and shared utilities, also have joint bank account from the end of 2015, no children so no birth certs, and we sent in a bunch of other supporting evidence: us with my parents on a trip, shared cellphone plan that includes us and the rest of my family that lives out of state, shared ownership of car purchases, shared credit cards, shared loans...and on and on. This seems over the top and ridiculous to me. Is this something that happens routinely with N400 apps?

ROC and N-400 are two different applications, USCIS needs to follow policy based on each application, even though you sent a lot on ROC, doesnt mean you wont send them again for N-400 specially if the N-400 application is based on 3 years marriage. Either way you have to proved that the relationship is still on going by providing what are needed to support your application. When I submitted my N-400 sent them again the same packet that I sent to them for my ROC, I know it's annoying but its more annoying to get an RFE, and that is one thing I really dont like because it will slow down the process. I sent everything even though they have it already all the evidences since my AOS and ROC.

Good luck!

 

 

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22 minutes ago, Lemon23 said:

ROC and N-400 are two different applications, USCIS needs to follow policy based on each application, even though you sent a lot on ROC, doesnt mean you wont send them again for N-400 specially if the N-400 application is based on 3 years marriage. Either way you have to proved that the relationship is still on going by providing what are needed to support your application. When I submitted my N-400 sent them again the same packet that I sent to them for my ROC, I know it's annoying but its more annoying to get an RFE, and that is one thing I really dont like because it will slow down the process. I sent everything even though they have it already all the evidences since my AOS and ROC.

Good luck!

 

 

Maybe this was a late night post and I left stuff out in my first post, but this is in response to an RFE. All the documents I described above we sent in with the initial N-400 application. I'm just super confused why we got an RFE for generic documents that were already sent to them and if that kind of RFE happens often.


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14 minutes ago, Coogah said:

Maybe this was a late night post and I left stuff out in my first post, but this is in response to an RFE. All the documents I described above we sent in with the initial N-400 application. I'm just super confused why we got an RFE for generic documents that were already sent to them and if that kind of RFE happens often.

I know you did it right the first time. USCIS screws things up sometimes. Just send them again, with a cover note stating that you sent them previously, and pointing out the few new inclusions. Sooner the better. Sorry you have to go through this. I went through two interviews for no reason.

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