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So we have case completed and now waiting for the interview 

I wanted to go through everything we sent to the USCIS and started reading all the chat logs we sent.

I came across something that I think will make the CO think that our marriage is fake.

I didn't think of this before because it didn't seem important at the time we sent our package to the USCIS, however now I think that they might misunderstand and not let me explain.

Here is the story -

One day my husband updated his pic on whatsapp and he used a picture of us together, somehow his ex girlfriend that he hasn't spoken to in 3 years decided to show up at his doorstep after she saw our picture,

of course noting happened between them, he told her that he is happy and that he is getting married, but we did have a fight about that and it's all there in the chat logs because I didn't want to answer to his calls, so we had a fight on whatsapp.

this is not the problem.

The problem is that about a week later, my husband was sick, he fell a sleep and he didn't answer his phone for hours, I called and tried texting him, when he finally answered, I said that I was worried, that I thought something happened to him or the his GIRLFRIEND blocked my number. obviously I wrote that because of the incident that happened a week earlier and obviously meant ex girlfriend, but I'm afraid that the CO might not read the whole thing and think that he has a girlfriend.   

 

Am I worried for nothing? will they even read those chat logs? (it's a lot of pages I wish I had never sent them)

Right now I can't sleep because of this stupid thing and I am afraid of the interview.I keep reading those chats over and over again.

I'm sure that they will just tell me denied and send me home and I will never get my visa because of this one stupid word.

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There is no need to worry. There are no relationships where there are no disagreements. These things happen. I also assume by you guys being together that you guys patched things up after that? Thise would also be in chats, right?

 

So, yes. You are worrying over nothing. Be at ease. This is nothing to worry about. This is normal.


Timeline Info below:

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04/21/16 -- Marriage

----- CR1 Process -----

USCIS Stage [222 days from NOA1]

06/08/16 -- Sent I-130

01/31/17 -- I-130 petition sent to NVC [Received Email notification and MyUscis status update]

NVC Stage [105 days from NOA2]

Embassy/Consulate (Interview) Stage [43 days from Case Complete to Visa in Hand]

05/18/17 -- Consulate Received. CEAC Case status changed to "Ready"

06/01/17 -- Medical Examination [Complete. It took around 2 hours. Total Cost INR 11650 for Surat City Apollo Clinic]

06/12/17 -- Biometric (OFC) Appointment

06/13/17 -- Interview [7:30 AM at Mumbai, India]. Visa Approved

06/15/17 -- Visa in hand

06/21/17 -- POE at DFW (Dallas, Texas)

----- Removal of Condition -----

Removal of Condition (I-751) [TBD]

06/18/2019 -- Sent the package (3 Days before GC expires, cutting it close). Sent to Lewisville, TX via FedEx Ground

06/19/2019 -- Package received at around 9:30 AM (Hoping I don't get rejected for missing deadline)

06/24/2019 -- Card was charged with $680 fees. Text Message received confirming Receipt. Case routed to NBC (Case Number starts with 'MSC')

06/28/2019 -- NOA Hard Copy & 18 Months Extension Letter Received in Mail with NOA Date as 06/19/2019

07/12/2019 -- Biomentrics Appointment Letter received. The Letter is Dated 7/5/2019. Appointment is on 7/22/2019

07/22/2019 -- Biometrics Appointment Complete

 

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21 minutes ago, babyblue22 said:

Yes of course, but I am worried that I called her girlfriend instead of ex girlfriend, I know this sounds stupid, but I really don't know how the CO will look at this.

If you sent in all chat logs including the “before” and “after” of that incident, it’s easily explained. However I don’t know who advised you to send in all chat logs. That was not necessary. Just select a few representation spread throughout the relationship. That’s all, because:

 

1. No one wants to read 3000 pages of love notes between two people they never met. Do you? And frankly, no one cares.

 

2. Stuff like this is exactly what would happen. You can proof read everything when you send in 3000 pages. And you MUST proof read everything, every word, you send into immigration. Everything you send in will be on your record forever. 

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2 minutes ago, USS_Voyager said:

If you sent in all chat logs including the “before” and “after” of that incident, it’s easily explained. However I don’t know who advised you to send in all chat logs. That was not necessary. Just select a few representation spread throughout the relationship. That’s all, because:

 

1. No one wants to read 3000 pages of love notes between two people they never met. Do you? And frankly, no one cares.

 

2. Stuff like this is exactly what would happen. You can proof read everything when you send in 3000 pages. And you MUST proof read everything, every word, you send into immigration. Everything you send in will be on your record forever. 

No we didn't send everything, we did read everything we sent and it just didn't seem like an issue back then because I thought they will read everything and understand the story and this actually seems like an argument that a real couple might have, not only love stuff, but now I'm second guessing everything, I read that they don't really read everything and only skim through and if they see only this then they might think the wrong thing. the interview is soon and I am getting very nervous. 

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45 minutes ago, babyblue22 said:

No we didn't send everything, we did read everything we sent and it just didn't seem like an issue back then because I thought they will read everything and understand the story and this actually seems like an argument that a real couple might have, not only love stuff, but now I'm second guessing everything, I read that they don't really read everything and only skim through and if they see only this then they might think the wrong thing. the interview is soon and I am getting very nervous. 

Then you bring everything you can to the interview to rebut that argument if that ever comes up.

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1 hour ago, USS_Voyager said:

Then you bring everything you can to the interview to rebut that argument if that ever comes up.

That is not a problem, but I am worried that they won't ask me anything about it and just say no

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8 hours ago, babyblue22 said:

Yes of course, but I am worried that I called her girlfriend instead of ex girlfriend, I know this sounds stupid, but I really don't know how the CO will look at this.

It’s done and can’t be undone, don’t worry about it.

 

Sending in your personal conversations is not advised.  Are they really evidence of a valid relationship?  They are not.  You can create reams of “evidence” on chat and never have a valid marriage.

 

Proof of valid marriage (AOS)  is this:  Do you share a home, a bank account, credit cards, insurance (car and health), are you beneficiaries of each others assets,  do you travel together.  At our interview, the CO had all of that, compared our house keys (that was unexpected) copied credit cards with the same number/different names (she was joint but her name wasn’t on the statements).  It is all about demonstrating a blended and functioning household and life together.

Not chats and phone calls.

 

Proof of valid marriage (CR1) is this:  Plane tickets, hotel receipts, photos together, wedding pics, legal documents, and not much else.  It is about physical time and the quality of that time together.  Still not chats and phone calls.  The bar is much lower for couples who reside in different countries because it is difficult to impossible to build or start a blended household while you are waiting for some drone at USCIS to process your file.

 

So don’t sweat it.  I dropped an I-130 on a consulate counter one time and I saw how they “process” it.  They went through the package page by page, handed me the stuff they do not need, and kept only the basic package for themselves.  Said thanks this looks good and they’ll email us our next instructions.  My guess is that the exact same thing happens to the reams of extraneous junk that get sent in to the service centers.

 

Best of luck to you.

 

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11 hours ago, babyblue22 said:

So we have case completed and now waiting for the interview 

I suggest that you go with your spouse to the interview if allowed in the embassy/consulate where the interview will be done.  Then if the officer asks about this (highly unlikely IMO), then you will be there to help explain it.  You have one final hurdle, the interview.  Be there for it if you can.  And don't overthink this.  More than likely you will be fine if your relationship is solid and if the I-864 shows strong financial support.  Good luck with the interview!

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2 hours ago, Nitas_man said:

It’s done and can’t be undone, don’t worry about it.

 

Sending in your personal conversations is not advised.  Are they really evidence of a valid relationship?  They are not.  You can create reams of “evidence” on chat and never have a valid marriage.

 

Proof of valid marriage (AOS)  is this:  Do you share a home, a bank account, credit cards, insurance (car and health), are you beneficiaries of each others assets,  do you travel together.  At our interview, the CO had all of that, compared our house keys (that was unexpected) copied credit cards with the same number/different names (she was joint but her name wasn’t on the statements).  It is all about demonstrating a blended and functioning household and life together.

Not chats and phone calls.

 

Proof of valid marriage (CR1) is this:  Plane tickets, hotel receipts, photos together, wedding pics, legal documents, and not much else.  It is about physical time and the quality of that time together.  Still not chats and phone calls.  The bar is much lower for couples who reside in different countries because it is difficult to impossible to build or start a blended household while you are waiting for some drone at USCIS to process your file.

 

So don’t sweat it.  I dropped an I-130 on a consulate counter one time and I saw how they “process” it.  They went through the package page by page, handed me the stuff they do not need, and kept only the basic package for themselves.  Said thanks this looks good and they’ll email us our next instructions.  My guess is that the exact same thing happens to the reams of extraneous junk that get sent in to the service centers.

 

Best of luck to you.

 

We sent photos, gift receipts and those stupid texts, I also submitted some new honeymoon photos to NVC, I will probably bring some more photos, hotel receipts, plane tickets to the interview.

I hope this will be enough  

10 minutes ago, carmel34 said:

I suggest that you go with your spouse to the interview if allowed in the embassy/consulate where the interview will be done.  Then if the officer asks about this (highly unlikely IMO), then you will be there to help explain it.  You have one final hurdle, the interview.  Be there for it if you can.  And don't overthink this.  More than likely you will be fine if your relationship is solid and if the I-864 shows strong financial support.  Good luck with the interview!

My husband can't come to the interview, he is in the US and it's also not allowed here

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13 minutes ago, babyblue22 said:

We sent photos, gift receipts and those stupid texts, I also submitted some new honeymoon photos to NVC, I will probably bring some more photos, hotel receipts, plane tickets to the interview.

I hope this will be enough  

My husband can't come to the interview, he is in the US and it's also not allowed here

Don’t sweat it.  Focus on your experiences, time together, and plans and not on your chat arguments.  If asked?  Blow it off, laugh, shrug it off, and say ya we had a couple arguments.  Every couple argues and that in itself is normal.  

 

Best of luck!

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