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Hello, 

We live in Russia. I am an American citizen, my fiance is a Russian citizen. As I understand, if you live abroad you can take all documentation to the USCIS office in your country. However, the USCIS office in Russia closed in February 2019. I've read conflicting things on what I need to do. One website says I need to send it to Lockbox in Chicago. I am not sure what that means. How long does this take? I read from here before that if you do it abroad at a USCIS office, it's generally quicker, like 2-3 months as opposed to 7-10 months. Another method I read was to use a different USCIS office in Europe, I believe the one that services Russia is located in Athens. 

So, which is it? How long does the lockbox method take if I live abroad?

Thanks

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9 minutes ago, Don4593 said:

Hello, 

We live in Russia. I am an American citizen, my fiance is a Russian citizen. As I understand, if you live abroad you can take all documentation to the USCIS office in your country. However, the USCIS office in Russia closed in February 2019. I've read conflicting things on what I need to do. One website says I need to send it to Lockbox in Chicago. I am not sure what that means. How long does this take? I read from here before that if you do it abroad at a USCIS office, it's generally quicker, like 2-3 months as opposed to 7-10 months. Another method I read was to use a different USCIS office in Europe, I believe the one that services Russia is located in Athens. 

So, which is it? How long does the lockbox method take if I live abroad?

Thanks

Local filing for spousal visas ended when they closed the office in Moscow.   Filing at the stateside lockbox, you will experience the same timing as every one else who files stateside 

 

Filing abroad will require exceptional circumstances but only for a spouse visa

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YMMV

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6 minutes ago, Don4593 said:

Hello, 

We live in Russia. I am an American citizen, my fiance is a Russian citizen. As I understand, if you live abroad you can take all documentation to the USCIS office in your country. However, the USCIS office in Russia closed in February 2019. I've read conflicting things on what I need to do. One website says I need to send it to Lockbox in Chicago. I am not sure what that means. How long does this take? I read from here before that if you do it abroad at a USCIS office, it's generally quicker, like 2-3 months as opposed to 7-10 months. Another method I read was to use a different USCIS office in Europe, I believe the one that services Russia is located in Athens. 

So, which is it? How long does the lockbox method take if I live abroad?

Thanks

~Moved to What Visa Do I Need as OP is unsure~

 

You're referring to DCF, but that has been slowly going away from alot of countries lately. 

 

First is this your fiance or spouse? If fiance, you file for the I-129f, eventually being the K-1 fiance visa. If you're married, you file for the I-130 for spousal (CR-1 visa). Look at the guides on the top of this page under the "guides" tab. Plan a head, don't rush into it, take time and make sure everything is well planned out especially financially.

 

K-1 visa processing is taking anywhere from 6-9 months to process, and CR-1 is about 12-14 probably. Timelines vary a bit though.

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08/15/2014 : Met Online

06/30/2016 : I-129F Packet Sent

11/08/2016 : Interview - APPROVED!

11/23/2016 : POE - Dallas, Texas

From sending of I-129F petiton to POE - 146 days.

 

02/03/2017 - Married 

02/24/2017 - AOS packet sent

06/01/2017 - EAD/AP Combo Card Received in mail

12/06/2017 - I-485 Approved

12/14/2017 - Green Card Received in mail - No Interview

 

   

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3 minutes ago, Ben&Zian said:

~Moved to What Visa Do I Need as OP is unsure~

 

You're referring to DCF, but that has been slowly going away from alot of countries lately. 

 

First is this your fiance or spouse? If fiance, you file for the I-129f, eventually being the K-1 fiance visa. If you're married, you file for the I-130 for spousal (CR-1 visa). Look at the guides on the top of this page under the "guides" tab. Plan a head, don't rush into it, take time and make sure everything is well planned out especially financially.

 

K-1 visa processing is taking anywhere from 6-9 months to process, and CR-1 is about 12-14 probably. Timelines vary a bit though.

Good catch.  I129f have never been accepted abroad

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YMMV

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12 hours ago, Ben&Zian said:

~Moved to What Visa Do I Need as OP is unsure~

 

You're referring to DCF, but that has been slowly going away from alot of countries lately. 

 

First is this your fiance or spouse? If fiance, you file for the I-129f, eventually being the K-1 fiance visa. If you're married, you file for the I-130 for spousal (CR-1 visa). Look at the guides on the top of this page under the "guides" tab. Plan a head, don't rush into it, take time and make sure everything is well planned out especially financially.

 

K-1 visa processing is taking anywhere from 6-9 months to process, and CR-1 is about 12-14 probably. Timelines vary a bit though.

Hmm, that just seems crazy to me that I can't bring my (future) wife to the states for over a year. Anyways, we've been looking into relocating (not to the U.S.), how would this situation be impacted if we lived in a country with a USCIS office, but she is not a citizen of?

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2 minutes ago, Don4593 said:

Hmm, that just seems crazy to me that I can't bring my (future) wife to the states for over a year. Anyways, we've been looking into relocating (not to the U.S.), how would this situation be impacted if we lived in a country with a USCIS office, but she is not a citizen of?

You'd both need to be legal residents. 

You have brains in your head. You have feet in your shoes. You can steer yourself any direction you choose.  - Dr. Seuss

 

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2 hours ago, NikLR said:

You'd both need to be legal residents. 

And married,  I129F petitions have never been accepted abroad 

YMMV

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20 minutes ago, payxibka said:

And married,  I129F petitions have never been accepted abroad 

True story

You have brains in your head. You have feet in your shoes. You can steer yourself any direction you choose.  - Dr. Seuss

 

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2 hours ago, Don4593 said:

Hmm, that just seems crazy to me that I can't bring my (future) wife to the states for over a year.

Crazy?  Maybe....Normal? Absolutely!  The immigration process requires a great deal of knowledge, planning, time, PATIENCE, and money....  Nothing regarding immigration is fast.  I strongly urge you to study and learn the information in the guides section of this web site.....you'll need it.

 

EDIT:  and properly filling in your time line will great aid in receiving accurate answers to your questions........good luck.

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______________________________________

August 7, 2022: Wife filed N-400 Online under 5 year rule.

November 10, 2022: Received "Interview is scheduled" letter.

December 12, 2022:  Received email from Dallas office informing me (spouse) to be there for combo interview.

December 14, 2022: Combo Interview for I-751 and N-400 Conducted.

January 26, 2023: Wife's Oath Ceremony completed at the Plano Event Center, Plano, Texas!!!😁

February 6, 2023: Wife's Passport Application submitted in Dallas, Texas.

March 21, 2023:   Wife's Passport Delivered!!!!

May 15, 2023 (about):  Naturalization Certificate returned from Passport agency!!

 

In summary, it took 13 months for approval of the CR-1.  It took 44 months for approval of the I-751.  It took 4 months for approval of the N-400.   It took 172 days from N-400 application to Oath Ceremony.   It took 6 weeks for Passport, then 7 additional weeks for return of wife's Naturalization Certificate.. 
 

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5 hours ago, Don4593 said:

Hmm, that just seems crazy to me that I can't bring my (future) wife to the states for over a year.

Join the crazy club. That is the norm that many here have gone through.

 

5 hours ago, NikLR said:

You'd both need to be legal residents. 

By the time they'd have the 6+ months of legal residency needed, there's a strong chance of them no longer accepting I-130s. They've been tending to do so around 60 days prior to closing with the other offices,

Timelines:

ROC:

Spoiler

7/27/20: Sent forms to Dallas lockbox, 7/30/20: Received by USCIS, 8/10 NOA1 electronic notification received, 8/1/ NOA1 hard copy received

AOS:

Spoiler

AOS (I-485 + I-131 + I-765):

9/25/17: sent forms to Chicago, 9/27/17: received by USCIS, 10/4/17: NOA1 electronic notification received, 10/10/17: NOA1 hard copy received. Social Security card being issued in married name (3rd attempt!)

10/14/17: Biometrics appointment notice received, 10/25/17: Biometrics

1/2/18: EAD + AP approved (no website update), 1/5/18: EAD + AP mailed, 1/8/18: EAD + AP approval notice hardcopies received, 1/10/18: EAD + AP received

9/5/18: Interview scheduled notice, 10/17/18: Interview

10/24/18: Green card produced notice, 10/25/18: Formal approval, 10/31/18: Green card received

K-1:

Spoiler

I-129F

12/1/16: sent, 12/14/16: NOA1 hard copy received, 3/10/17: RFE (IMB verification), 3/22/17: RFE response received

3/24/17: Approved! , 3/30/17: NOA2 hard copy received

 

NVC

4/6/2017: Received, 4/12/2017: Sent to Riyadh embassy, 4/16/2017: Case received at Riyadh embassy, 4/21/2017: Request case transfer to Manila, approved 4/24/2017

 

K-1

5/1/2017: Case received by Manila (1 week embassy transfer??? Lucky~)

7/13/2017: Interview: APPROVED!!!

7/19/2017: Visa in hand

8/15/2017: POE

 

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2 minutes ago, Don4593 said:

Could we just apply for a normal tourist visa then since that is the whole point of us going there anyways?

Of course, normal qualifications apply 

YMMV

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12 minutes ago, Don4593 said:

Could we just apply for a normal tourist visa then since that is the whole point of us going there anyways?

So you just wanted to visit? Then a CR-1 was never a proper course. That's an immigrant visa...for immigrating to the US.

Timelines:

ROC:

Spoiler

7/27/20: Sent forms to Dallas lockbox, 7/30/20: Received by USCIS, 8/10 NOA1 electronic notification received, 8/1/ NOA1 hard copy received

AOS:

Spoiler

AOS (I-485 + I-131 + I-765):

9/25/17: sent forms to Chicago, 9/27/17: received by USCIS, 10/4/17: NOA1 electronic notification received, 10/10/17: NOA1 hard copy received. Social Security card being issued in married name (3rd attempt!)

10/14/17: Biometrics appointment notice received, 10/25/17: Biometrics

1/2/18: EAD + AP approved (no website update), 1/5/18: EAD + AP mailed, 1/8/18: EAD + AP approval notice hardcopies received, 1/10/18: EAD + AP received

9/5/18: Interview scheduled notice, 10/17/18: Interview

10/24/18: Green card produced notice, 10/25/18: Formal approval, 10/31/18: Green card received

K-1:

Spoiler

I-129F

12/1/16: sent, 12/14/16: NOA1 hard copy received, 3/10/17: RFE (IMB verification), 3/22/17: RFE response received

3/24/17: Approved! , 3/30/17: NOA2 hard copy received

 

NVC

4/6/2017: Received, 4/12/2017: Sent to Riyadh embassy, 4/16/2017: Case received at Riyadh embassy, 4/21/2017: Request case transfer to Manila, approved 4/24/2017

 

K-1

5/1/2017: Case received by Manila (1 week embassy transfer??? Lucky~)

7/13/2017: Interview: APPROVED!!!

7/19/2017: Visa in hand

8/15/2017: POE

 

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19 minutes ago, Don4593 said:

Could we just apply for a normal tourist visa then since that is the whole point of us going there anyways?

Are you saying that your intent is not to reside in the US?

"The US immigration process requires a great deal of knowledge, planning, time, patience, and a significant amount of money.  It is quite a journey!"

- Some old child of the 50's & 60's on his laptop 

 

Senior Master Sergeant, US Air Force- Retired (after 20+ years)- Missile Systems Maintenance & Titan 2 ICBM Launch Crew Duty (200+ Alert tours)

Registered Nurse- Retired- I practiced in the areas of Labor & Delivery, Home Health, Adolescent Psych, & Adult Psych.

IT Professional- Retired- Web Site Design, Hardware Maintenance, Compound Pharmacy Software Trainer, On-site go live support, Database Manager, App Designer.

______________________________________

August 7, 2022: Wife filed N-400 Online under 5 year rule.

November 10, 2022: Received "Interview is scheduled" letter.

December 12, 2022:  Received email from Dallas office informing me (spouse) to be there for combo interview.

December 14, 2022: Combo Interview for I-751 and N-400 Conducted.

January 26, 2023: Wife's Oath Ceremony completed at the Plano Event Center, Plano, Texas!!!😁

February 6, 2023: Wife's Passport Application submitted in Dallas, Texas.

March 21, 2023:   Wife's Passport Delivered!!!!

May 15, 2023 (about):  Naturalization Certificate returned from Passport agency!!

 

In summary, it took 13 months for approval of the CR-1.  It took 44 months for approval of the I-751.  It took 4 months for approval of the N-400.   It took 172 days from N-400 application to Oath Ceremony.   It took 6 weeks for Passport, then 7 additional weeks for return of wife's Naturalization Certificate.. 
 

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