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What do we think about the merits of standing firm versus caving?

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A Turning Point in the Campus Free-Speech Crisis
by Stanley Kurtz / April 17, 2019  10:32 AM

Amid the weekly cavalcade of campus horrors, it's easy to miss a story that will mark a major turning point in the campus free-speech crisis, whether for good or ill.  The growing confrontation at the University of Arizona over students who disrupted a Career Day presentation by Border Patrol agents is not your run-of-the-mill campus outrage.  Instead it's that rare case where student disruptors are facing real consequences for their actions.  This is in significant part because of a new Arizona law strengthening discipline for such disruptions.  If the university holds fast and the disruptors pay a price for silencing others, the move will carry national implications.  Yet if the growing rebellion by anti-free-speech students and faculty at UA gets its way, the university will back down, the border patrol will be permanently barred from campus, and the university president could lose his job.

Continues here: https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/campus-free-speech-turning-point-university-of-arizona/

 

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Hopefully, the university stands it's ground.  This group clearly doesn't believe in free speech, but instead are quite fascist in nature, "believe what I believe, or we will destroy you".

 

The student and faculty defenders of the accused disruptors style themselves “The Coalition for the Arizona 3.” The group has three demands: 1) drop any charges against the accused disruptors, whether criminal or within the university; 2) agents of ICE and the Border Patrol must be permanently banned from campus; and 3) if the first two demands are not met, President Robbins must resign.

 

Btw, here is the live link.

 

https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/campus-free-speech-turning-point-university-of-arizona/

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No mention of any books being burned.

 

Yet.

“If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.”

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I had no idea there was a "free speech crisis' in the US today.

 

I know I'm old, and forget things I learned years ago, but isn't free speech one of those things the constitution guarantees us?  And something about the right to peacefully assemble?

 

How can this even be an issue?  Disruption of class is denying education to those who want it.  $500 fine and community service, at a minimum.  Actions SHOULD have consequences.

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4 minutes ago, ALFKAD said:

I had no idea there was a "free speech crisis' in the US today.

 

I know I'm old, and forget things I learned years ago, but isn't free speech one of those things the constitution guarantees us?  And something about the right to peacefully assemble?

 

How can this even be an issue?  Disruption of class is denying education to those who want it.  $500 fine and community service, at a minimum.  Actions SHOULD have consequences.

I would add an academic suspension to the penalty, not expulsion, but at least some time-out time.

 

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All I know is next time I come through international arrivals, I am going to worry about all those CBP murderers.  (sarcasm intended)

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