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Family member went for interview at scheduled time and date at Mt Laurel NJ.

She passed civic/English test but she was not recommended because officer had concerns about residency.

He gave N652 - 'not yet'

 

Today we noticed in her ELIS account that says interview de-scheduled ..it does not say any reason why but says we are sorry for inconvenience.

 

There is another thing in her account that says we have transferred your case to another field-office for review.

They said it is transferred to Seattle office (from original office of Mt. Laurel)

 

Now why would they it is de-scheduled after the fact and our major concern is ...even if its transferred to Seattle office...does she need to take

Civic/English test again?

 

 

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20 hours ago, minglevi said:

Family member went for interview at scheduled time and date at Mt Laurel NJ.

She passed civic/English test but she was not recommended because officer had concerns about residency.

He gave N652 - 'not yet'

 

Today we noticed in her ELIS account that says interview de-scheduled ..it does not say any reason why but says we are sorry for inconvenience.

 

There is another thing in her account that says we have transferred your case to another field-office for review.

They said it is transferred to Seattle office (from original office of Mt. Laurel)

 

Now why would they it is de-scheduled after the fact and our major concern is ...even if its transferred to Seattle office...does she need to take

Civic/English test again?

 

 

Does your family member move from Seattle to NJ? if yes how many months does your family member reside in NJ after submitting the N-400 application?


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05/11/17: Date of I-751
05/12/17: VSC received our package

05/12/17: NOA Date
05/14/17: NOA Arrived in the mail & check cashed

06/22/17: Biometrics Appointment at ASC Manhattan

04/09/18: Online changed to case transferred to local office but no actual letter

06/13/18: Card Being Produced - NO RFE/NO INTERVIEW

06/16/18: Approval Letter arrived in the mail with 06/13/18 approval date

06/18/18: Card was picked up by USPS

06/20/18: Received 10 years Green Card from the mail

 

E-FILING (IOE) N-400 APPLICATION FOR NATURALIZATION

 

06/21/18: Submitted Online
06/22/18: Received NOA Online

06/23/18: Online account updated to Biometrics scheduled on 07/12/18

06/25/18: NOA letter arrived in the mail

06/28/18: Biometrics appointment letter arrived in the mail

07/12/18: Biometrics appointment at ASC Manhattan

02/28/19: In Line for Interview

03/01/19: Interview Date is on 04/08/19

04/08/19: Interview Day: Approved on the spot

04/09/19: We Scheduled your Oath Ceremony

04/12/19: Oath Letter arrived in the mail

05/02/19: Oath Ceremony

 

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She moved from Seattle to NJ in May 2018  and she filed in October 2018.

 

So she was there for more than 3 months (required as per rules) 

 

She had all other documents showing residency including health insurance coverage from state of NJ ..only thing she did not have was NJ issued state ID (non driver in her case because she does not drive)

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9 minutes ago, minglevi said:

only thing she did not have was NJ issued state ID (non driver in her case because she does not drive)

This is makes more sense, since state ID is required on the interview to make sure that the applicant is really a resident of the state, regardless if the applicant move more than 3 months ago.


VERMONT SERVICE CENTER - I-751 ROC

 

05/11/17: Date of I-751
05/12/17: VSC received our package

05/12/17: NOA Date
05/14/17: NOA Arrived in the mail & check cashed

06/22/17: Biometrics Appointment at ASC Manhattan

04/09/18: Online changed to case transferred to local office but no actual letter

06/13/18: Card Being Produced - NO RFE/NO INTERVIEW

06/16/18: Approval Letter arrived in the mail with 06/13/18 approval date

06/18/18: Card was picked up by USPS

06/20/18: Received 10 years Green Card from the mail

 

E-FILING (IOE) N-400 APPLICATION FOR NATURALIZATION

 

06/21/18: Submitted Online
06/22/18: Received NOA Online

06/23/18: Online account updated to Biometrics scheduled on 07/12/18

06/25/18: NOA letter arrived in the mail

06/28/18: Biometrics appointment letter arrived in the mail

07/12/18: Biometrics appointment at ASC Manhattan

02/28/19: In Line for Interview

03/01/19: Interview Date is on 04/08/19

04/08/19: Interview Day: Approved on the spot

04/09/19: We Scheduled your Oath Ceremony

04/12/19: Oath Letter arrived in the mail

05/02/19: Oath Ceremony

 

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What evidence did she submit that proved she has maintained NJ as her residence since May 2018? Being in one location is different that being the resident of that location. 


Spouse:

2015-06-16: I-130 Sent

2015-08-17: I-130 approved

2015-09-23: NVC received file

2015-10-05: NVC assigned Case number, Invoice ID & Beneficiary ID

2016-06-30: DS-261 completed, AOS Fee Paid, WL received

2016-07-05: Received IV invoice, IV Fee Paid

2016-07-06: DS-260 Submitted

2016-07-07: AOS and IV Package mailed

2016-07-08: NVC Scan

2016-08-08: Case Complete

2017-06-30: Interview, approved

2017-07-04: Visa in hand

2017-08-01: Entry to US

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Myself:

2016-05-10: N-400 Sent

2016-05-16: N-400 NOA1

2016-05-26: Biometrics

2017-01-30: Interview

2017-03-02: Oath Ceremony

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3 hours ago, Lemon23 said:

This is makes more sense, since state ID is required on the interview to make sure that the applicant is really a resident of the state, regardless if the applicant move more than 3 months ago.

Well it is debatable whether State ID is required to prove your residency. 

I talked to two different customer service office on USCIS on call and they said it is not must but its helpful.

They said it is not must that is why it is not mentioned on interview letter as must bring documents.

 

We sent a letter to officer stating that if State ID is must ...we can make one any time and send you a copy..........but have not heard anything from that officer or USCIS.

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8 hours ago, minglevi said:

Well it is debatable whether State ID is required to prove your residency. 

I talked to two different customer service office on USCIS on call and they said it is not must but its helpful.

They said it is not must that is why it is not mentioned on interview letter as must bring documents.

 

We sent a letter to officer stating that if State ID is must ...we can make one any time and send you a copy..........but have not heard anything from that officer or USCIS.

well on the letter yes they never mentioned its requires but on online account they did mentioned to bring state ID.


VERMONT SERVICE CENTER - I-751 ROC

 

05/11/17: Date of I-751
05/12/17: VSC received our package

05/12/17: NOA Date
05/14/17: NOA Arrived in the mail & check cashed

06/22/17: Biometrics Appointment at ASC Manhattan

04/09/18: Online changed to case transferred to local office but no actual letter

06/13/18: Card Being Produced - NO RFE/NO INTERVIEW

06/16/18: Approval Letter arrived in the mail with 06/13/18 approval date

06/18/18: Card was picked up by USPS

06/20/18: Received 10 years Green Card from the mail

 

E-FILING (IOE) N-400 APPLICATION FOR NATURALIZATION

 

06/21/18: Submitted Online
06/22/18: Received NOA Online

06/23/18: Online account updated to Biometrics scheduled on 07/12/18

06/25/18: NOA letter arrived in the mail

06/28/18: Biometrics appointment letter arrived in the mail

07/12/18: Biometrics appointment at ASC Manhattan

02/28/19: In Line for Interview

03/01/19: Interview Date is on 04/08/19

04/08/19: Interview Day: Approved on the spot

04/09/19: We Scheduled your Oath Ceremony

04/12/19: Oath Letter arrived in the mail

05/02/19: Oath Ceremony

 

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The only reason they would relocate her interview to Seattle is they thought her move to NJ was temporary based on the evidences that was included. That’s why I asked what evidences did she submit that proves her residence in NJ since May 18.

 

If she doesn’t have a good proof, my suggestion is just appear for the interview in Seattle.


Spouse:

2015-06-16: I-130 Sent

2015-08-17: I-130 approved

2015-09-23: NVC received file

2015-10-05: NVC assigned Case number, Invoice ID & Beneficiary ID

2016-06-30: DS-261 completed, AOS Fee Paid, WL received

2016-07-05: Received IV invoice, IV Fee Paid

2016-07-06: DS-260 Submitted

2016-07-07: AOS and IV Package mailed

2016-07-08: NVC Scan

2016-08-08: Case Complete

2017-06-30: Interview, approved

2017-07-04: Visa in hand

2017-08-01: Entry to US

.

.

.

.

Myself:

2016-05-10: N-400 Sent

2016-05-16: N-400 NOA1

2016-05-26: Biometrics

2017-01-30: Interview

2017-03-02: Oath Ceremony

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19 minutes ago, minglevi said:

She submitted various documents including usps change of address (temporary) , bank statement and mainly NJ health insurance (govt. backed)

Temporary change of address!!!!! You had the answer all along on why they relocated her interview to Seattle.

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Spouse:

2015-06-16: I-130 Sent

2015-08-17: I-130 approved

2015-09-23: NVC received file

2015-10-05: NVC assigned Case number, Invoice ID & Beneficiary ID

2016-06-30: DS-261 completed, AOS Fee Paid, WL received

2016-07-05: Received IV invoice, IV Fee Paid

2016-07-06: DS-260 Submitted

2016-07-07: AOS and IV Package mailed

2016-07-08: NVC Scan

2016-08-08: Case Complete

2017-06-30: Interview, approved

2017-07-04: Visa in hand

2017-08-01: Entry to US

.

.

.

.

Myself:

2016-05-10: N-400 Sent

2016-05-16: N-400 NOA1

2016-05-26: Biometrics

2017-01-30: Interview

2017-03-02: Oath Ceremony

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I know but rule/law says one needs to be resident 90 days prior to filing ...it does not say one needs to change their permanent address with USPS or it does not say one needs to permanently move in to the state they are filing from...please advise...if I have misunderstanding.

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23 minutes ago, minglevi said:

I know but rule/law says one needs to be resident 90 days prior to filing ...it does not say one needs to change their permanent address with USPS or it does not say one needs to permanently move in to the state they are filing from...please advise...if I have misunderstanding.

I agree that USPS is not the agency that determines residency. However, how does one actually establish residency versus a visit? There isn't a simple answer to this across states...it's generally about intent. The lack of a state ID & no driver's license, stating only a temporary change of mail delivery, etc. are factors in this consideration.

I'm not saying they did or didn't make the right call - I don't know all the facts. But at least some of the factors present a question of her actual residency.

 

She'll get there in the end....it just may have some more bumps inn the road than expected.


Timelines:

Spoiler

AOS (I-485 + I-131 + I-765):

9/25/17: sent forms to Chicago

9/27/17: received by USCIS

10/4/17: NOA1 electronic notification received

10/10/17: NOA1 hard copy received. Social Security card being issued in married name (3rd attempt!)

10/14/17: Biometrics appointment notice received

10/25/17: Biometrics

1/2/18: EAD + AP approved (no website update)

1/5/18: EAD + AP mailed

1/8/18: EAD + AP approval notice hardcopies received

1/10/18: EAD + AP received

9/5/18: Interview scheduled notice

10/17/18: Interview

10/24/18: Green card produced notice

10/25/18: Formal approval

10/31/18: Green card received

 

K-1:

Spoiler

I-129F

12/1/17: sent

12/14/17: NOA1 hard copy received

3/10/17: RFE (IMB verification)

3/22/17: RFE response received

3/24/17: Approved!

3/30/17: NOA2 hard copy received

 

NVC

4/6/2017: Received

4/12/2017: Sent to Riyadh embassy

4/16/2017: Case received at Riyadh embassy

4/21/2017: Request case transfer to Manila, approved 4/24/2017

 

K-1

5/1/2017: Case received by Manila (1 week embassy transfer??? Lucky~)

7/13/2017: Interview: APPROVED!!!

7/19/2017: Visa in hand

8/15/2017: POE

 

 

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I think so.

 

The problem i think is the submission of the temporary change of address evidence to USCIS. If she hadn’t submitted that, probably it would have been a different case. USCIS might have thought she isn’t intending to live in NJ and is planning to return back to Seattle soon. Like @geowrian said, there is no perfect solution on determining residency. They probably saw that she is still maintaining Seattle as primary residence and NJ as secondary temporary residence due to that piece of evidence and probably due to lack of State ID too. In terms of multiple residence, usually USCIS goes with the primary residence.

 

At this time, it might be the fastest way to get the citizenship by just appearing at the interview in Seattle.

 

 

 

 


Spouse:

2015-06-16: I-130 Sent

2015-08-17: I-130 approved

2015-09-23: NVC received file

2015-10-05: NVC assigned Case number, Invoice ID & Beneficiary ID

2016-06-30: DS-261 completed, AOS Fee Paid, WL received

2016-07-05: Received IV invoice, IV Fee Paid

2016-07-06: DS-260 Submitted

2016-07-07: AOS and IV Package mailed

2016-07-08: NVC Scan

2016-08-08: Case Complete

2017-06-30: Interview, approved

2017-07-04: Visa in hand

2017-08-01: Entry to US

.

.

.

.

Myself:

2016-05-10: N-400 Sent

2016-05-16: N-400 NOA1

2016-05-26: Biometrics

2017-01-30: Interview

2017-03-02: Oath Ceremony

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