additional i-134 or i864a for Guangzhou interview

[Ian&Leia 4]

 I was borderline on my tax return for 2017. I'm well above for 2018, but have not filed taxes yet. I do have my 1099s though. I've decided to be bring paperwork for a cosponsor just in case. RapidVisa's paperwork says I should bring a i-864a, but when chatting they said to use a second i-134. Then after explaining to them that their own paperwork says to use i1864a they changed their answer. This has kinda weakened my confidence in their accuracy.  Does anyone have experience using a cosponsor for K1 at Guangzhou? Do i bring a i-134 or i864a for cosponsor? Would 1099s  be enough to prove income for 2018 without a tax return?

 

Thanks

[britishandusa 446]

Rapid Visa tends to mess up a lot of people's visas according to VisaJourney. I would not trust them. 

 

I-864 is ONLY for adjustment of status POST K1 arrival and I-864a is for supporting I-864 (spousal of main affidavit) if that makes sense. 

 

ONLY the I-134 is for the K1 interview. Only some embassies take co-sponsors, not all do so you'd have to find out.

 

Use pay stubs, letter of employment, tax returns, etc.

[geowrian 22,335]

You mentioned 1099s. So you are self-employed or it's investment income or something?

Edited January 16, 2019 by geowrian

[Ian&Leia 4]

I am self employed. I have an oilfield trucking company. I also did some IT tech work in 2018. I have all those 1099s.  I'm borderline in 2017 because of a lot of truck repairs among other things. 2016 and 2015 look good though. I also had a job for 3 months in 2018 when business was slow but don't think I'll get the w2 before our interview on Jan 31st.

 

Were up against the clock with her "White book" for birth verification too so we are considering rescheduling, but Man its gonna cost a lot if I start changing flights around...

 

Seems like we're making every mistake we could make. lol

[Ian&Leia 4]

Also thanks to both of you for your replies.

[geowrian 22,335]

11 minutes ago, Ian&Leia said:

I am self employed. I have an oilfield trucking company. I also did some IT tech work in 2018. I have all those 1099s.  I'm borderline in 2017 because of a lot of truck repairs among other things. 2016 and 2015 look good though. I also had a job for 3 months in 2018 when business was slow but don't think I'll get the w2 before our interview on Jan 31st.

 

Were up against the clock with her "White book" for birth verification too so we are considering rescheduling, but Man its gonna cost a lot if I start changing flights around...

 

Seems like we're making every mistake we could make. lol

Thanks!

 

Since you're self-employed, your income level will be based on your most recent tax return (and supported by prior returns, if provided). Until you file taxes for 2018, it's only considered revenue, not income.

That's probably not the news you wanted to hear, sorry. But you can go with what you have and use that. For the K-1 visa, the I-134 is only a tool for the CO to assess the public charge concern. They will look at a totality of the circumstances.

 

This differs for the I-864 later when you do AOS in the US. A satisfactory I-864 there is a requirement under the law, not just a tool/guideline. But by then you'll probably have the 2018 taxes in.

 

@pushbrk Anything I missed? I believe you know this consulate - and how the COs there tend to look at the public charge concern - well (or at least better than me! ) .

Edited January 16, 2019 by geowrian

[pushbrk 12,103]

22 minutes ago, geowrian said:

 

 

@pushbrk Anything I missed? I believe you know this consulate - and how the COs there tend to look at the public charge concern - well (or at least better than me! ) .

I don't think so, but a borderline total income from line 22 for 2017, and/or either of the prior years can be problematic for GUZ.  It depends on the overall picture.  Being self employed is a double-edged sword when it comes to immigration issues.  It isn't income until it's on line 22, and based on legitimate deductions, paying the least in tax, means your income lower, and does not really reflect your available cash to pay bills and live.  A W2 form for a job you've already left means nothing.  Neither do 1099 forms for 2018.  As already stated, "revenue" is not "income" in this context.

 

 

To the OP, yes it was a mistake not to prepare.  Hopefully, you are talking about flights for only YOU, not for her too.  Buying a ticket for her BEFORE the visa is in hand, would be a HUGE mistake.  She can go to the Gong Zheng Chu and pay an expedite fee to get the Notarial Birth Certificate in time.  I wouldn't reschedule.  Doing so would likely delay you until March, even late March.  February will already be full.

[geowrian 22,335]

Thank you as always~

[Ian&Leia 4]

thanks. For tax returns, are people using IRS transcripts? I downloaded them and they look totally different from the actual 1040 forms and the lines aren't numbered. I also have the copies my accountant gives me which are the actual 1040 and other forms. Which ones are correct to bring to interview?

 

[payxibka 10,044]

3 minutes ago, Ian&Leia said:

thanks. For tax returns, are people using IRS transcripts? I downloaded them and they look totally different from the actual 1040 forms and the lines aren't numbered. I also have the copies my accountant gives me which are the actual 1040 and other forms. Which ones are correct to bring to interview?

 

Either.  They know how to read both.  If you have the transcripts then use them

[Ian&Leia 4]

16 hours ago, pushbrk said:

I don't think so, but a borderline total income from line 22 for 2017, and/or either of the prior years can be problematic for GUZ.  It depends on the overall picture.  Being self employed is a double-edged sword when it comes to immigration issues.  It isn't income until it's on line 22, and based on legitimate deductions, paying the least in tax, means your income lower, and does not really reflect your available cash to pay bills and live.  A W2 form for a job you've already left means nothing.  Neither do 1099 forms for 2018.  As already stated, "revenue" is not "income" in this context.

So if everything from 2018 doesnt matter because I havent filed my taxes yet, then for annual income do I have to put my annual income from the 2017 tax return on the I-134, or can I put roughly what it was in 2018 or what i expect in 2019?

 

Maybe mine is all irrelevant because I'm going to bring a I-134 from my mother also?

[pushbrk 12,103]

2 hours ago, Ian&Leia said:

So if everything from 2018 doesnt matter because I havent filed my taxes yet, then for annual income do I have to put my annual income from the 2017 tax return on the I-134, or can I put roughly what it was in 2018 or what i expect in 2019?

 

Maybe mine is all irrelevant because I'm going to bring a I-134 from my mother also?

Yours is relevant as the petitioner/sponsor.  As a self employed person, your current income comes from line 22 of your most recently filed US Federal tax return.

[AdeelNaz 20]

For k-1 visa petitioner or the co-sponsor have to submit i134 form and all the supporting documents along with it

[MandW 310]

You only need your MOST recent return. You don’t need previous returns or 3 years of returns. Only your most recent.  I’m self employed and that’s exactly what I did. For her k1 interview I supplied the most recent tax return. People that work a job for a company have to supply 3 years of returns and other supporting docs showing income. It’s different for us self employed people. I know because I just went through it. 

[MandW 310]

When you read the writing on the 134 it clearly says (if self-employed please supply your most recent return) 

 

if your income is higher higher than last year go on TurboTax and do a return. It’s simple and they do self employed returns on there